Massive P2P Expendables Lawsuit Scrapped Though it May Be Refiled Friday Aug 26 2011 08:36 EDT Earlier this year the U.S. Copyright Group (USCG, or the law firm of Dunlap, Grubb and Weaver) launched the largest mass P2P lawsuit ever filed, suing some 24,583 broadband users for sharing the film The Hurt Locker. Page two of the court document highlighted all of the ISPs the law firm currently has deals with, in addition to listing the IPs of all those sued. The case beat the previous just-weeks-old record lawsuit also by the U.S. Copyright Group, which involved suing 23,322 users for sharing the film The Expendables. However, things aren't going particularly well on the legal front for the firm, who in June had their subpoenas for The Expendables case nuked by a Judge who had previously approved them. The U.S. Copyright Group had pushed for "expedited discovery" in the case, then didn't bother to serve the subpoenas they'd obtained. This week finds that USCG and the film's makers, Nu Image, have dismissed the suit; though it seems possible they'll simply refile it. |
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GoodWhether you against or for file sharing this was all just a shake down. | |
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Re: Goodyes it is a bs shakedown of people.if i lived near these schmucks office i would go over some night and superglue all their doors.
harmless prank with no violence is needed as these guys ripped off and scared a bunch of folks who probably did nothing more than not know how to secure a computer.
like everyone in USA has the intelligence to do that.how many people you know who can not even "delete" a file of folder ?
many only know how to do very simple things as in email,hulu,google,simple browsing,etc. | |
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tpkatl
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2011-Aug-26 9:23 am
All the other defendants were "expendable", I guessAt least there is some small group of judges that is learning that extortion is illegal. | |
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Re: All the other defendants were "expendable", I guesMaybe...or maybe they just did not pay the judge enough this time around and he is just "bumping the price" by rejection.
Extortion will continue soon enough. | |
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2011-Aug-26 10:22 am
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Explain ths to me. There is a construction 50mph zone on 70 mph turnpike i90 highway that is barely construction. Everybody there drives 70 and if u go to slow, not only cars but also alrge trucks will be swerving around u. Yet state cops patrol there on last quarter mile of construction zone and write tickets. And u can't get out of this ticket. the judge of the loca county will laugh if u say everybody was going fast, saying there is plenty of fish in lake but u can't catch them all. And they love to catch out of state drivers knowing they will less likely challenge ticket in court should they want to. And u risk points on your license. THAT IS MONEY GRAB EXTORTION! Your only option is call da, or get traffic lawyer who will charge u a lot but most likely only plea bargain instead really defending you on your court day. | |
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Re: All the other defendants were "expendable", I guesOkay. So you first break the law and because YOU got caught, you want to blame the system because they DIDN'T CATCH anyone else.
Let's see. When you're breaking the law, you're BREAKING the LAW. When you see a sign on the highway to slow the f*ck down in a state you are not from and don't want to deal with local authorities in such a manner... do yourself a favor and slow the f*ck down. You will thank yourself for the countless times you didn't get a ticket because you didn't get stopped for going at the construction zone speed. That isn't extortion, that is the law that says, we CAN get you "if you're breaking the law."
Whats happening with the mass lawsuits however is something of a gouging. Its not the state. Its a private entity trying to collect on damages when the damages cannot be quantified. What makes sense if collecting data which identifies a few sources that are massively helping the trafficking and bootlegging of copyrighted material. That's what will really help. Going after everyone in an effort to clean up the copyright mess is not only costly to me and you, but its simply a waste of time and accomplishes didly-squat.
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2011-Aug-26 1:16 pm
Re: All the other defendants were "expendable", I guesCapitalizing BREAKING the LAW doesn't firm up your argument. Laws are written by men (and often by corporations) and their merit can be debated by intelligent people.
Just because it is THE LAW doesn't mean it should be..
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Re: All the other defendants were "expendable", I guessaid by CRF :Capitalizing BREAKING the LAW doesn't firm up your argument. Laws are written by men (and often by corporations) and their merit can be debated by intelligent people.
Just because it is THE LAW doesn't mean it should be..
Cheers
I'm still waiting for you to claim how going at 70 mph on a construction zone which states 50mph is not breaking the law. Oh wait, I mean i'm still waiting to hear and debate on the "merit" behind such a law. Every once in a while some law actually... i don't know... maybe tries to protect you from getting hurt. Just because going at 70mph in a construction zone may be the norm, doesn't make it right, just like going after everyone with a blanket lawsuit doesn't make it right to fight against piracy. If, in this example, you want to find a loophole, go ahead. Don't just retort, riposte if you have something meaningful to post. | |
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Re: All the other defendants were "expendable", I guesIt is FAR more dangerous to go 50 in an area where everyone is going 70 than to go 70 in an area where everyone is going 70 regardless of the speed limit.
These laws are not about safety. They are about revenue. Any officer knows this. It's not rocket science. | |
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Re: All the other defendants were "expendable", I guesSo slow down and maybe everyone else will. For all the BS talk about local governments ticketing to collect revenue the reality is that construction speed zones are to protect the workers trying to fix that piece of pavement. Those cops in the construction zone are typically on overtime being paid by the contractor to write tickets to get idiots like yourself to slow down.
Here's something to consider. If the speed zone is 50mph and you are going 70mph and you hit and kill a construction worker you are probably going to end up in jail for vehicular homicide. Most states put that at about 10 years in state prison. | |
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Re: All the other defendants were "expendable", I guesFirst off, the OP we're all responding to detailed a situation where there was a workzone posted with nobody or almost nobody working. This is quite common for work zones to be left open while nobody is actually working on it.
You strike me as the typical non-driver who has no idea what driving on a turnpike is like. Driving at 50 while EVERYONE around you is driving at 70 is literally taking your life into your hands. People ride your ass swerve around you, ride up onto the shoulder to get around you.. etc..
You also seem to be purposefully overlooking the fact that a construction worker hit by a car going at 50 mph is no less dead than a worker hit by a car going at 70. If people were actually walking INTO the road, cars wouldn't be going at 70. But like I said, it's obvious that you don't actually drive you you clearly wouldn't understand how traffic works. | |
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2011-Aug-29 6:05 pm
Re: All the other defendants were "expendable", I guessaid by jeffreydean1:First off, the OP we're all responding to detailed a situation where there was a workzone posted with nobody or almost nobody working. This is quite common for work zones to be left open while nobody is actually working on it.
You strike me as the typical non-driver who has no idea what driving on a turnpike is like. Driving at 50 while EVERYONE around you is driving at 70 is literally taking your life into your hands. People ride your ass swerve around you, ride up onto the shoulder to get around you.. etc..
You also seem to be purposefully overlooking the fact that a construction worker hit by a car going at 50 mph is no less dead than a worker hit by a car going at 70. If people were actually walking INTO the road, cars wouldn't be going at 70. But like I said, it's obvious that you don't actually drive you you clearly wouldn't understand how traffic works.
so if the others drivers drive off the off ramps on the I-10 in phoenix youre going to do it too? I live in a city where there will be less than five feet of space between the cars during rush hours for several hours and miles. The people who try to go 20 MPH over the speed limit are the problem not the ones going the speed limit. so many accidents happen every day here due to retarded drivers who think they are above the law because no one ever pulls them over. Awhile back someone was killed on an off ramp because it was one lane that after 200 feet turned into 3 lanes, but before those three lanes the ramp is elevated with a drop on the left side. A guy in a truck couldn't wait that few more seconds and drove out of the lane to go around the car on the right side. The car fell off the left side of the ramp as there was not enough room and they turned to the left some more to avoid being hit but before they realized their mistake they were already falling. ...And you know what is most sad about what happened? The truck had to stop at a red light. The red light at that location lasts for over 5 minutes... | |
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said by cchhat01:Whats happening with the mass lawsuits however is something of a gouging. It's not the state. It's a private entity trying to collect on damages when the damages cannot be quantified. What makes sense if collecting data which identifies a few sources that are massively helping the trafficking and bootlegging of copyrighted material. That's what will really help. Going after everyone in an effort to clean up the copyright mess is not only costly to me and you, but its simply a waste of time and accomplishes didly-squat. I call it legalized extortion. It is a private entity trying to collect, but they have the FEDERAL LAW (DMCA) on their side that allows them to collect IP's and then forces ISP's to reveal who's behind them. Then the settlement amounts are "reasonable" enough to make it not worth fighting them in courts if you are get caught. Think about it, if you get caught, you can settle with them for somewhere between $3,000 and $5,000, or you can hire a lawyer, pay him about the same if not more upfront with no guarantee that he will win this for you. And if you lose, you will owe them a lot more than what they initially offered to settle for. In a situation like that, I think the first option makes the most sense to take, unless you have a ton of money and free time on your hands and want to prove a point. In regards to catching the sources, I think it's also a waste of time as there is a huge number of them with new ones popping up all the time. It's similar to drug scene, for every dealer that they bust, several new ones pop up to take his place. Not to say that the government shouldn't be catching them, but it's a sad fact of life. Look at piracy scene too, they allegedly imprisoned the guys who leaked The Hulk and Star Wars as well as the one who was leaking Oscar-nominated critic copies, and low and behold, movies are still being pirated. The only thing Hollywood can do to stop piracy is to start offering DRM-free legal ways of getting content at reasonable prices. Even that will not stop piracy completely, but IMO will slow it down significantly. | |
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2011-Aug-26 5:04 pm
Re: All the other defendants were "expendable", I guesWait until you speed up to avoid an accident, because slowing down would force u to stop ON HIGHWAY. It's then harder to join and a lot more risky. What would u do I'd I got ticket for that? I am sure you would thank you cop the cop that stopped you.
Btw laws so not always go on par with safety, logic or ethics. often it is about money.
Number one cause of accident is not speed (what they propagate here in States) but INNATENTION. Its so true look, in Germany autobahns don't have speed limit yet there are not many accidents. Why because German automakers don't make cupholders. U new morning coffee drink it when u stop by travel center or on rest stop, now when on intersection. But they won't talk about it because this would upset Starbucks, do donkin donuts or Mcdonals that profit from on the go customers who "don't have time to stop to eat". | |
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Re: All the other defendants were "expendable", I guessaid by Shiw123 :Wait until you speed up to avoid an accident, because slowing down would force u to stop ON HIGHWAY. It's then harder to join and a lot more risky. What would you do if you got ticket for that? I am sure you would thank the cop that stopped you. Another perfect example are red light cameras. Suppose there is a tailgater right on your a** as the light is turning red. If you slam on the brakes, he will rear end you. If you keep going and run the light, you will get a ticket. Thankfully, here in NYC you only get a $50 ticket and no points on your license, so as long as it's safe I will probably run the light. Although the driver who rear-ends you will almost always be at fault and their insurance will have no choice but to pay for your repairs, the hassle of having to fix your car plus the fact that when it gets flagged as involved in accident on CarFAX it will lose more value than it would normally is just not worth it. said by Shiw123 :BTW laws so not always go on par with safety, logic or ethics. Often it is about money. True to an extent. While majority of laws are still designed to keep us inline and keep us from doing wrong things, there are quite a few out there whose sole purpose is to make money. Lately, more and more of the above keep getting passed. said by Shiw123 :Number one cause of accidents is not speed (what they propagate here in States) but INNATENTION. It's so true look, in Germany autobahns don't have speed limit yet there are not many accidents. Why, because German automakers don't make cup holders. You drink your morning coffee when you stop by travel center or on rest stop, now at the intersection. But they won't talk about it because this would upset Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts or McDonald's that profit from on the go customers who "don't have time to stop to eat". While true, I read that German autobahns have one major flaw that contributes to quite a few accidents: road straightness. The twists and turns on roads here in the US and other countries, while a pain in the a**, also keep you awake and alert. If you keep driving along the straight line for hours as is the case on most autobahns, you may get "bored" with the road and fall asleep at the wheel. Not a very enticing prospect. Regarding cup holders, I guess I would have to take a closer look at locally made cars when I visit Germany. I am sure that whatever cars they import into the US are probably modded with cup holders to keep their American customers happy. I am not completely against them, but people need to learn to drive responsibly. I drink coffee or soda myself in my car on the way to work, but I only do it when stopped on a red light at the intersection, obviously not when doing 60+ MPH on a highway. And if I could afford a Mercedes 600 Series or a BMW 700 Series, I would personally not want to stink up the interior with Big Macs and Chinese food. Oh, and I always thought that an 80 year old grandma who drives 5 MPH but doesn't see where the hell she is going is far more dangerous than the 18 year old guy who is going 80 MPH but is fully awake and alert. | |
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2011-Aug-26 3:40 pm
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Except everyone seems to know that traffic "enforcement" is a shakedown! Most of the cops are worse drivers than the general public. After given someone a ticket, I saw a copy run a stop sign and do an illegal u-turn so he could get back to his prime spot to write more tickets!!! Unfortunately this country is now filled with "legal" shakedowns. Time to take the country back! | |
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2011-Aug-26 12:19 pm
Those dopes should be thankful......that ANYONE would want to see that pile of worthless dung. | |
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2011-Aug-26 5:16 pm
Re: Those dopes should be thankful...Are you confusing this with The Hurt Locker? The Expendibles wasn't going to win any awards for best writing or acting, but it wasn't that bad. | |
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2011-Aug-26 1:55 pm
USCGDo they have the rights to use the acronym USCG? » www.uscg.mil/ | |
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Re: USCGMaybe the U.S. Coast Guard isn't as anal as the Chicago Transit Authority? Rock band calling itself CTA had to change their name to just plain, "Chicago" when the government agency smacked them with the threat of legal action. | |
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Targets?Seeing as anyone who had an internet connection was a target can anyone who has an internet connection sue them back since all of us are john and jane does? | |
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2011-Aug-26 5:58 pm
LOL @ Rambozo filmsStallone just wont go away will he? | |
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