Mayor Signs Off On Bringing FiOS To DC Verizon promises to wire whole city in nine years... According to a Verizon press release, Washington DC mayor Adrian M. Fenty this week signed Verizon's DC franchise into law, meaning that city residents will finally see FiOS after years of watching Maryland and Northern Virginia suburbanites blissfully surf at speeds up to 50Mbps. Verizon says city residents will see the first service within the year, and that the franchise requires they deploy the FTTH service "throughout the District over the next nine years." Like their deal with New York City, the agreement was hashed out largely in private, and gives Verizon a bit of leeway when it comes to hitting those deployment goals.
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Valencia, CA | private deals I worry about the potential issues with these 'private' deals with public officials and mega corps.
They typically end up only helping the major corporations, and allow for many exclusive access deals.
Interestingly enough - Radio ads here in SoCal (knx1070) have Verizon promoting business broadband (assumed DSL) but advertising 7 'megabytes' per second - with voice and phone for $79/month. | |
|  | | | Re: private deals You know this competition is way off verizon need to set fios in other city's where uverse isn't available. witch would you have it compete with uverse and have a lower customer base or go some where where uverse isn't and have a large customer base | |
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Chicago, IL | Agreement Hashed Out In Private? I remember a time when things that impacted the public at large were discussed, you know, in public...and meetings were open for anyone interested in attending.
What's the deal with all this secrecy and privacy everywhere? This F'ing president has set such a bad precedent. Everyone thinks because the man at the top can do it, it must morally, ethically and legally be okay.
Well it's not.
We're a democracy god damn it. Public meetings should be ...public. Government records should be open to inspection. Any agreement like this should be open for comment and inspection before it's made law.
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| Re: Agreement Hashed Out In Private? I remember a time when things that impacted the public at large were discussed, you know, in public...and meetings were open for anyone interested in attending. To be fair there are often public meetings to attend. The carriers/cities just don't publicize them. And last minute consumer input isn't really going to change deals that were negotiated for 9 months behind closed doors. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Agreement Hashed Out In Private? Depends a lot on the cities involved. In the hearing I ran, we ran over a dozen newspaper ads and 300+ tv spots to publicize it. We carried the meeting live too.
Two people showed up; one to complain about his cable problem (that was fixed before he left the room), and the other was a non-resident who happened to be walking by and decided to comment.
We actually completely revamped two sections of the franchise between the hearing and taking it to city council, and nearly had to do another full revision after the first city council vote. So, in our case, consumer input probably would have had an impact if there had been any real input.
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I agree with you that this should have been open.
The thing that really bothers me is why is it going to take 9 years to completely wire the District? There's already soooo much dark fiber there ready and waiting... Geesh, I'm in the NW quadrant, and won't see Fios forever. Oh well, so much for efficiency. I guess I could go outside the district and get Fios now! How lame! | |
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Chicago, IL | Re: Agreement Hashed Out In Private? Nine years seems like a reasonable time for 100% coverage. The "dark fiber" you refer to is mainly for backbone use, going to and from select commercial locations, telco facilities, data centers etc.
Fios requires wiring each dwelling with fiber...and that's a lot of work.
Count your blessings, at least you're not in an AT&T territory, otherwise you'd never get fiber.
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| | | | | | Re: Agreement Hashed Out In Private? Actually, my other condo is in AT&T territory. I have U-Verse there. U-Verse is okay. Actually. it's a really buggy service. I've had FiosTV/Fios in the past as well. It was fantastic. So I know what Fios is all about too. I just think that nine years to wire a such a small area is a pretty long time. | |
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Burlington, MA | It will take some time (although 9 years does sound a bit much) because there are *other* places getting FIOS, too. Installations do not come to a halt everywhere else, just so that everyone in DC can be served first.
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New York, NY | Re: Agreement Hashed Out In Private? said by elios:no we are a Democratic Republic not the same thing Correct, hence the fact that the citizens of this country dont actually elect the president (or VP). | |
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The various 'public' special interests that attend these groups have their own agendas that are outside of the meeting's intended scope: wiring the city.
If the meeting was public, there would be a lot of these sentiments expressed: "wire me first" and "i'll agree but only if they subsidize [insert cause]", "that is not fair" and "work should be done by [insert company]"
In the duration of time that it would take the public to speak their uneducated opinion, the city could be wired. | |
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Look at what's happening here in Philly, for crying out loud. A member of city council proposed setting up a franchise with Verizon. The mayor seems to be in favor of it. The negotiation for the deal was publicly disclosed, and what happens? Comcast leans on other local politicians to put the breaks on the deal. It's now sitting in limbo because some of these morons express the concerns spoon fed to them by Comcast. Please. THAT'S why these deals are happening in more and more secretive fashions. | |
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kudos:1 | There are still public hearings, but the contract negotiations have to be done in private. The companies won't do them if they are public because of the confidential information that is discussed.
In order for them to be private, certain public officials cannot attend the meetings, and appointed or elected boards have to stay below quorum numbers. When the rest of the board sees the proposal, it has to be public.
Either way, the agreement itself is open for comment, inspection, and public hearing before made law. Just not the negotiation documents.
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| | Nine years Nine years will be nine years too late. By then cable will be ahead and them in DC and in NY and VZW won't even be able to stop them. | |
| | | | Re: Nine years said by hottboiinnc:Nine years will be nine years too late. By then cable will be ahead and them in DC and in NY and VZW won't even be able to stop them. So what if cable is ahead of them? I don't care who I get advanced services from, as long as I get them. | |
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| said by fifty nine:said by hottboiinnc:Nine years will be nine years too late. By then cable will be ahead and them in DC and in NY and VZW won't even be able to stop them. So what if cable is ahead of them? I don't care who I get advanced services from, as long as I get them. Exactly what I say. I don't care if it's cable, copper, fiber, carrier pigeon, etc. I want the fastest speeds at the best price.
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Reston, VA | Re: Nine years What kind of latency can one expect with an unladen carrier pigeon?  | |
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Reston, VA | Re: Nine years said by NetLarry:Is the swallow carrying a coconut? Which do you mean, an African or a European swallow? | |
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Reston, VA | A little competition can't hurt. | |
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| Re: Nine years LOL. what competition? Cable already has the market and will be in the lead for a long time. FiOS is a joke when it comes to waiting to get a TV deal before building anything? Taking a year to get any customers online. and 9years to build out?
There is never any competition. Prices are the same and have only gone up. but remember the DC area is a Cox service area in some zones and their private, no need to worry about those investors like VZ has to do. | |
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Reston, VA | Re: Nine years Yeah, right. I keep hearing cable fans talking about how their ISP is improving speeds out of the kindness of their hearts with little or no regard to Verizon's looming FiOS service.
In a coupe of years FiOS will have tons of new customers in the DC area, just like they do in other areas where FiOS has been deployed. The FiOS service will be faster, more reliable, and of much better quality than anything competing with it. And just like everywhere else, FiOS will dominate the overall customer satisfaction ratings as well.
If FiOS was a joke, as you call it, than this would hardly be newsworthy. | |
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| Re: Nine years My cable company's speeds are high. They raised their speeds and are getting ready to again with DOCSIS 3.
It's not all about speed its about who's offering the better deal.
Most people will not change just because a new speed tier is being offered by VZ. It's about being happy with who you have. If people are happy they'll pay for what they already have. You'll have people that will sign up to get the deal of that time and when it ends and they can't get another they'll be back to who they started with to get a deal from them.
But you claim the same thing everyone else on here does. Everyone will move to FiOS in your area because nobody is happy with the cable company. Well let me tell you. You're full of shit! It's only being made available NOW because VZ is tired of sharing their lines for DSL. What's going to happen when they're tired of their FiOS network and want to focus on Cellco Partnership FiOS will be left to rot for a while while they work on that.
They only have the money because of Cellco and the ever raising rates with them and their "other taxes and fees" they tack on with the landline services.
You can't say that FiOS has a better satisfaction ratings. just because they rank well in one area doesn't mean they will in another.
You're another one of those assholes on here that treats VZ and their FiOS as God. Get over it. It's nothing special. And if it was VZ would have had it out YEARS AGO back instead of sitting around waiting for cable to take their damn customers with Digital Phone like cable will still due. Why VZ's FiOS is just as high and HIGHER than cable is. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Nine years said by hottboiinnc:My cable company's speeds are high. They raised their speeds and are getting ready to again with DOCSIS 3. It's not all about speed its about who's offering the better deal. Most people will not change just because a new speed tier is being offered by VZ. It's about being happy with who you have. If people are happy they'll pay for what they already have. You'll have people that will sign up to get the deal of that time and when it ends and they can't get another they'll be back to who they started with to get a deal from them. But you claim the same thing everyone else on here does. Everyone will move to FiOS in your area because nobody is happy with the cable company. Well let me tell you. You're full of shit! It's only being made available NOW because VZ is tired of sharing their lines for DSL. What's going to happen when they're tired of their FiOS network and want to focus on Cellco Partnership FiOS will be left to rot for a while while they work on that. They only have the money because of Cellco and the ever raising rates with them and their "other taxes and fees" they tack on with the landline services. You can't say that FiOS has a better satisfaction ratings. just because they rank well in one area doesn't mean they will in another. You're another one of those assholes on here that treats VZ and their FiOS as God. Get over it. It's nothing special. And if it was VZ would have had it out YEARS AGO back instead of sitting around waiting for cable to take their damn customers with Digital Phone like cable will still due. Why VZ's FiOS is just as high and HIGHER than cable is. We've been hearing about the promise of docsis 3 for a long time. We'll see who gets to DC first - FiOS or docsis 3. BTW, why do you think there's a big push by these cable companies to move to docsis 3? They doing that out of the kindness of their hearts, are they? I'm sure the fact that CV is stepping up things like IP and docsis 3 have NOTHING whatsoever to do with Verizon moving into NYC. Just like I'm sure Comcast just happens to be running tons of 'we have more fiber than verizon' ads in this area is just pure coincidence. And I'm sure it has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that comcast alone lost 147,000 video customers in the 3rd quarter of 08 while Verizon added nearly 1/4 million. I'm sure that's just all plain coincidence.
Finally, are you really blaming VERIZON for those TAXES on your landline service? Verizon has the ability to pass tax legislation now? Wow, I know they're a big company and all, I guess I just never understood HOW big  . | |
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| Re: Nine years I don't have VZ in my area And i seen speeds faster than what most other cable companies give. I get faster Internet speeds than ATT. Where the speeds in place before ATT was here with U-Verse YEP!
Is my cable company shaking? NOPE! Why they own the city and get what they want and being a local cable company in Ohio get what they want at the state level. They didnt bother fighting against the state law being passed here. Why they wanted it! Now they're one of the largest in Ohio for service and all locally owned.
I don't care to try FiOS why? I'm happy with the service i get. Why do I want to support a company that outsources over seas? why do I want to support a company that uses the lazy union techs in the area.
And Just because comcast lost that many does not mean they went to Digital or to VZ they could have went to Dish or Direc. You can't claim those same customers went to VZ for TV. Also like i said before Customers do the promo switch all the time. And you can't sit there and say they don't. In 6 months they'll be back to Comcast and then back to FiOS. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Nine years said by hottboiinnc:I don't have VZ in my area And i seen speeds faster than what most other cable companies give. I get faster Internet speeds than ATT. Where the speeds in place before ATT was here with U-Verse YEP! Is my cable company shaking? NOPE! Why they own the city and get what they want and being a local cable company in Ohio get what they want at the state level. They didnt bother fighting against the state law being passed here. Why they wanted it! Now they're one of the largest in Ohio for service and all locally owned. I don't care to try FiOS why? I'm happy with the service i get. Why do I want to support a company that outsources over seas? why do I want to support a company that uses the lazy union techs in the area. And Just because comcast lost that many does not mean they went to Digital or to VZ they could have went to Dish or Direc. You can't claim those same customers went to VZ for TV. Also like i said before Customers do the promo switch all the time. And you can't sit there and say they don't. In 6 months they'll be back to Comcast and then back to FiOS. So, you don't have access to FiOS in your area, but you KNOW the field techs are lazy slobs? Wow, I wish I had that much insight. To be honest the Vz field techs (I had two installers, and a couple field techs out over the last 3 years) were, very honestly, the best I've seen. They knew their stuff. And because they get paid by the hour, not by the job, they actually have an incentive to make sure your install is done correctly. When I had DirecTV, they (for some reason) sent 2 installers to add a DVR. I asked them to just send me the DVR in the mail, and I would install it myself, but I was told I HAD to take the installation or the DVR would cost me.
They so over-booked the installer(s) that they missed my first appointment - the lead installer, to his credit, kept calling me throughout the night to let me know his status - by 11:30 that night he called one last time to tell me he couldn't make it. He was done for the night, and he had 2 appointments ahead of mine that he never got to. When he (and an assistant) did show up a few days later, they didn't even hang out long enough to know if the DVR worked.
You can slam the Vz techs all you want - but with my personal experience, the ones I've had, have been absolutely excellent.
As for where all those customers went - of the 'big boys' only 3 actually gained customers that quarter - Verizon, AT&T (which came in darn close to Verizon's numbers) and, a pretty distant third, DirecTV. All the rest - including Dish - lost customers. They're going somewhere. Between AT&T and Vz, nearly 1/2 million customers were added in 1 quarter - I'll leave it up to you to do the math.
I'm glad you're happy with your service, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with my post. The cable companies around here fear Verizon - and with good reason. The ads I see from companies like Comcast and CV range from the merely silly to outright lies (I heard one from, I think, CV claiming that you need a satellite dish to receive programming through FiOS). I know they love spending money on advertizing and all, but when they consistently focus on one company like that, it tells me something. | |
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Reston, VA | said by hottboiinnc:My cable company's speeds are high. They raised their speeds and are getting ready to again with DOCSIS 3. It's not all about speed its about who's offering the better deal. Most people will not change just because a new speed tier is being offered by VZ. It's about being happy with who you have. If people are happy they'll pay for what they already have. You'll have people that will sign up to get the deal of that time and when it ends and they can't get another they'll be back to who they started with to get a deal from them. But you claim the same thing everyone else on here does. Everyone will move to FiOS in your area because nobody is happy with the cable company. Well let me tell you. You're full of shit! It's only being made available NOW because VZ is tired of sharing their lines for DSL. What's going to happen when they're tired of their FiOS network and want to focus on Cellco Partnership FiOS will be left to rot for a while while they work on that. They only have the money because of Cellco and the ever raising rates with them and their "other taxes and fees" they tack on with the landline services. You can't say that FiOS has a better satisfaction ratings. just because they rank well in one area doesn't mean they will in another. You're another one of those assholes on here that treats VZ and their FiOS as God. Get over it. It's nothing special. And if it was VZ would have had it out YEARS AGO back instead of sitting around waiting for cable to take their damn customers with Digital Phone like cable will still due. Why VZ's FiOS is just as high and HIGHER than cable is. I complain about my FiOS service, albeit not nearly as much as I did with my Comcast service. Verizon subscribes less than 25% of the home/businesses that they pass. I never suggested that everyone would switch to FiOS because they all were dissatisfied with their current service. Many people are generally not happy with their service and their lack of choices, and they want something better. Just look at the hundreds of reviews on this site.
Verizon FiOS has an overall satisfaction rating that is consistently ranked higher than other services. This does not indicate that everyone, everywhere enjoys FiOS.
For me, in my area, Verizon FiOS is a much better deal. It is cheaper than what Comcast offers for a similar package, and I get a better quality product with FiOS. (like faster internet speeds, much better picture quality, and several more HD channels that I enjoy watching) I'm also not under any contract and have no bundled savings, yet I still pay less than I did with Comcast each month.
Can you make a similar comparison? Have you tried FiOS service? | |
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| Re: Nine years You can't say anything about the reviews on this site. Usually people only post their review here just because they can and never come back or the same people on here all the time. This board's reviews do not speak for everyone else.
And just because the reviews in general seem to be good doesn't mean they're that good. You only hear about the good and never the bad with VZ. Especially on this site.
The reviews for CellCo are suppose to go good too according ot JP Power, BUT TM was ranked the same and actually better. But who came out ahead? VZ why? HMMMMMMMM...Nobody well ever know. | |
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Nine years will be nine years too late. By then cable will be ahead and them in DC and in NY and VZW won't even be able to stop them.
That is 9 yeas for a total rollout, not before they start selling/seeing ROI in that area. Verizon Wireless does not come into play when competing against the CableCos. Since you have no concept on how the Telcos are structured and where their profit streams come form let's break it down.
1] Verizon Wireless and AT&T Wireless have approx 160 million subscribers--that is about 50% of the total US population. Please tell what CableCo can compete with that. Furthermore, a majority of of revenues for both of these companies is derived from their wireless divisions.
2] Government contracts, Enterprise Business, Large Business, Circuits and etc. This is the RBOCs second largest stream of revenue. Once again the CableCos have made little if any inroads into this market.
3] Small Business and Residental--This is the only market where the Cable Cos are winning customers over the traditional Telecos. However, the offering of FIOS and U-Verse TV packages are meant to take the battle to the Cable Cos. 1.6 million TV subs out of 8 million homes passed equates to 22% market share in just a couple of years. That is what will give the Cable Cos the most trouble, in addition to the Quad play bundles these 2 companies can offer.
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But you claim the same thing everyone else on here does. Everyone will move to FiOS in your area because nobody is happy with the cable company. Well let me tell you. You're full of shit! It's only being made available NOW because VZ is tired of sharing their lines for DSL.
See point 3 above and educate yourself on what is happening in the Telecom world and why.
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You're another one of those assholes on here that treats VZ and their FiOS as God. Get over it. It's nothing special. And if it was VZ would have had it out YEARS AGO back instead of sitting around waiting for cable to take their damn customers with Digital Phone like cable will still due.
If you were not an uneducated troll you might have some understanding of the industry and how it works. Ignorance must be bliss. | |
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| Re: Nine years I'm uneducated like you are a VZ/ATT troll.
You need to educate your self on CableCos and what they actually do.
Epsecially in Ohio.
VZ is shit! And your stats? back them up besides some Telco magazine or the "news on here". BusinessWeek doesn't count either.
And the 9years it takes VZ to out build Cox will be already ahead of them. thats IF VZ builds fully out like they say they will.
We all know how well they follow the contract. Or do we have to ask PA residents about that one. | |
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| Re: Nine years Please do tell me what major contracts the cable cos have in OH other than small businesses or residental. That is the only area of the market that the cable cos are currently winning. What cable co has the same wireless offerings as AT&T or Verizon? Same coverage maps? Please enlighten me as to what government contracts the cable cos have won from the RBOCs. Please tell me what major company {ie Wallmart, EJ Lilly, Toyota, Ford, and ad nauseum] that gets their circuits/telco needs provided by a cable co.
As to being a shill for AT&T or Verizon I think you need to search my posts as I equally bash Telcos and Cable Cos for their failings. There are plenty of people on this site with much more knowledge than I can hope to have about the industry, but as it is my chosen profession I take the time to read on the industry and its trends as my job depends upon it.
Admittedly cable has been making great inroads into the phone business, but it took several years for the base to develop. Given the same amount of time it will be interesting to see how much of the video business the telcos will gain. You will have to do your own research on the revenue streams. The primary divisions of Verizon are Verizon Wireless, Verizon Business, and Verizon Telecom. Look at the quarterly reports and you will see how much more revenue is generated by the wireless and business divisons versus the telecom divison. | |
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| | | | Re: Cherry picking neighborhoods....... Can you blame them? If you're running a business, does it not make sense to roll out services to areas where you're more likely to make money first? | |
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kudos:1 | Wow, three years to lay a whole new infrastructure? Honestly, I would think that your lower income neighbors should be happy that they're getting service and it only took VZ three years to reach them in a $23B infrastructure investment. | |
| | | | Thats where DC has an advantage over many areas where lower end areas differ significantly from higher end areas.
Withing DC, there are very few strictly low end areas, almost all of them are mixed, hell even South East DC has expensive upper class parts (mostly now due to the Stadium).
Lets look at Mount Pleasant and Columbia Heights for example (I used to live in Mount Pleasant).. On 17th, 18th, and 19th streets (around Park Road) the houses are well into the $600 to $1.5m range, but 14th through 16th street is a dive of low income (mostly immigrants, and there is also a home less shelter there). Same area, but different income levels. Most of DC is like that.
That said, I am sure there will be some streets left till last, but at the same time, its not cost effective to wire streets a b c, skip d e f, and then wire g h i (while yes there are lettered streets in DC.. this was an example set of letter values). In the long run it will be cheaper for them to wire the entire area.
I fortunately live in the burbs, and have had fios for about 4 years now, and had comcast for the year prior to that (5 years at my current residence). While I do pay more for my FIOS, I despise comcast, that said, in the 4 yers I have had FIOS, I have never needed a technician to come out and fix anything, and I have only had 1 outage. In the year I had comcast, I had 5 technician visit on 3 separate occasions to repair their cables on the pole that leads to my house. I had more outages then I can remember.
FIOS will do well in DC, and the 9 years is for the buildout of an infrastructure in a extremely dense area. In the burbs they had to deal with mostly trenching in dirt, some concrete, some pre existing conduit under the streets... in DC, it is all concrete, and dealing with interuptions to residents (and the rich people will probably pitch a fit at the noise...) | |
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| | | Something's not right This is the 5th year of the six year fios build-out,six million more homes to pass in the next 2 years. The 23 billion number is for 7 million customers from 18 million homes passed ( 23 billion from revenue of over 500 billion over a 6 year build-out,4 billion a year)Now its 9 more years for dc - 6years for ny - Bos ? -philly ? -bal-pit ? | |
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