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McDowell: FCC Neutrality Rules Won't Hold
He's Probably Right, and Verizon Will Likely Be the One Who Kills Them
by Karl Bode Friday 01-Jul-2011 tags: business · wireless · bandwidth · wireless
FCC Commissioner Robert McDowell voted against the agency's network neutrality rules (which don't really do much anyway), and now has told Fox News he thinks there's a "better than average chance" that a court, likely the D.C. circuit, will stay the FCC's network neutrality rules. The irony in all of this of course is that the rules, which were crafted with massive input by Verizon, will now likely find themselves overturned by Verizon in a lawsuit. Why? Verizon's not so much concerned by what's in the rules now -- they just want to make sure the FCC lacks any any all authority to police such infractions in the future. Why Verizon? Comcast can't sue over the rules as a condition of their merger with NBC, and AT&T won't sue because they're eager to have the FCC approve their merger with T-Mobile.

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Transmaster
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F(uture) C(orporate) C(EO's)


Mr Smith

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Re: F(uture) C(orporate) C(EO's)

ROFL! Especially true since the FCC restricts very, very heavily what you can do on the hotspots in its own building. "Do as I say, not what I do, because that pleases Obama campaign contributor Google."
Skippy25

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Re: F(uture) C(orporate) C(EO's)

That argument makes no sense at all. Last time I checked the FCC is not an ISP so they are free to control their internal "corporate" network as they see fit just as you can control the network in your home.
sonicmerlin

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Possibility

Would overturning the rules now still allow the FCC to impose common carrier regulations sometime in the future?
Commodus

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Ottawa, ON

No real shock in his opinion

McDowell is a Republican politician. His objections to net neutrality rules were pretty much copied word for word from the carriers' talking points. Why would we expect him to think the FCC rules would get passed, even if they will?

Heck, many suspect McDowell is on the take from carriers. Meredith Baker (also a Republican) may well have been given how quickly she jumped ship to Comcast after leaving her post.
ackman

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Acworth, GA

Re: No real shock in his opinion

Well said, agreed. Unfortunately Americans have bought the propaganda from outlets like Fox News, to think that corporations should be allowed to govern all commerce and government in the US. They did that through feigned nationalism and religion. Fascism has arrived in America, and it was wearing the American flag and carrying a Bible.

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Re: No real shock in his opinion

Great, more 'The republicans are evil' crap. I'm guessing the democrats try to help people huh?

How little some people understand politics around here.

For instance, how about you two show some objectivity? Say everyone was a democrat?

SUDDENLY YOU HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME NOW LOL! EVERYBODY IS NOW HERE TO HELP YOU!

Does that make any sense? Stop looking at the R and the D and look at what they say! That might make more sense!

P.S. The founding fathers had bibles too.

inaqsyoro

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Re: No real shock in his opinion

said by Metatron2008:

Great, more 'The republicans are evil' crap. I'm guessing the democrats try to help people huh?

How little some people understand politics around here.

P.S. The founding fathers had bibles too.


KrK
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I see the truth hit a little close to home, eh?

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Re: No real shock in his opinion

And... what home is that exactly?

Do tell. I know since you guys are so quick to blame republicans you'll label me one too, right?

Or maybe I read the bible? Maybe I own guns? Maybe I'm socially conservative?

Too bad you would be wrong on all accounts. But I have no doubts that the people here would automatically label somebody something without any evidence.

Kind of like how the topic came about.

Does this truth hit close to home?

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Re: No real shock in his opinion

Judge a man by his words and his deeds. If you don't like the result, you should reflect on what you are doing to earn it.

I'd say yep, hit close to home alright.
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Re: No real shock in his opinion

LOL, and in another topic I am saying to jail all the executives that have sold this country out...

Seems you want to hear what you want to hear. And if someone questions your lack of common sense you get mad.

Well whatever, believe what you want.

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Re: No real shock in his opinion

Hmm. Said the man who blew up into outraged hyperbole because he read the word "republican" in a post highlighting a bad position... who got mad again?
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Re: No real shock in his opinion

Sheesh, Metatron is only saying that you can't get mad at a guy just for being a Republican or Democrat.

KrK
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Re: No real shock in his opinion

That's not what he said. He blew up about it. It doesn't matter at this point.
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more talk from the group of pricks

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Appointees from Obama aren't changing anything.

Funny how the ones above, so quick to pinpoint the R on a person, forget that this is a democrat president who appointed basically the same talking head who isn't doing anything as last time.

Julius may talk more about how things should be, but he does the same as the past FCC chairman. I'm guessing the D gives him a free pass though?
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Republicans Are Better

Think of it like this:

Republicans admit to being corporate snakes from the start. They will tell you who they're working for, that their agenda is always of, by and for the corporations.

Democrats basically provide lip service to actual concerns, then follow the same policy model. Democrats lie and do the exact same things, but nobody on Team Blue calls them on it.

The conclusion is this: If you're ever going to fix America's dangerous road down corporate control of everything, you have to stop voting for Democrats and Republicans.
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Republicans, Democrats, whatever...

Being that the FCC net neutrality rules are full of poopoo anyway, and barely does anything actually beneficial, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets hammered in a conservative court. McDowell will probably go to work for Verizon anyway, and probably get nothing more than the hairy eyeball.
At this point, it has nothing to do with Republicans Vs. Democrats, it's all about corruption at the highest levels, and well paid lobbyists handing out doles of money so they can write laws the way they want to.
Damn Karl, didn't we already have this conversation?
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A nightmare.

This whole thing is. Look at America's sorry state of internet. We're rushing towards an even crappier version of Canada's model with even less innovation and mandatory expansion.

Republicans are definitely the most to blame. With Democrats, you have your share of slime. But you also have a chance to vote in someone mildly interested in helping the country. You can harp and moan all you want about how both sides are equally evil or corporations are misunderstood and good or what the hell ever the current rhetoric is, but it doesn't change facts. I work for a living and I've got no sympathy for something that wallows in tax payer money and contributes nothing back into society and the people who make their greed and stagnation possible.

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Re: A nightmare.

said by slynerve:

With Democrats, you have your share of slime. But you also have a chance to vote in someone mildly interested in helping the country.



Unfortunately you are flat wrong. A Democrat is the worst kind of partisan. They are not interested in helping the country they are only interested in supporting the entrenched special interests that finance their re-elections. Of course there are the entrenched interests of the Republican party but the difference is the entrenched groups that control the Democratic party are the most destructive to the United States as a country. Municipal and State Public service unions who pay off the very people who pay them, I'll give you more money If I get more pay and benefits.
Environmental interests that continue to prevent us from any meaningful mitigation of our energy problems. The purposeful isolation of ethnic and racial groups in order to foster class warfare; look there those nasty people have it and you don't so vote for me and I will get it for you. Punitive taxes on the so called rich so they can feed the lie their ghettoed communities they are getting there fair share, yet their way of life has deteriorated.

Look at what has happened to the Telecommunication industry. Al Gore (who invented the internet) and the Telecommunication Act of 1996. Look at the Universal access tax, conceived to provide modern communications to area that are under served. Well after all of these years the money has been flowing in and nothing has really changed like all such funds it has become yet another way for a politician to use to get elected so the money has not gone where it was designed to go. Instead of inner cities the money has been used to wire upscale apartment buildings, School districts have put in non-functional systems for outrageous amounts of money using crony companies that have connections to the school board.

The Telecommunication industry knows just how the grease the skids. Promises of building in inter-cities, Fiber, faster speed etc, etc, etc. They feed this line to all levels of government with the addition of The emollient of Moola. The Democrat extract money and promises for their ghetto communities, while the Republican tend to support letting the Telecom's have a free hand. I don't care for either way but it seems to me that the poor folk in the Democratic reservations are getting screwed the worst. These scumbags make all of these promises we are going to make the "man" pay for............fill in the blank. And they never see anything. The Republicans have the idea let them do what they want and it will come that isn't going to work either. What we need is a hard nosed FCC such as it was in the 1960's run by engineers with little interference by Capital hill. The FCC ruled with an iron hand. The broken promises, the ripping off of money, bogus billing would have been the cause for investigation and fines, and in some cases referral to the Justice Department for prosecution. To be sure there were abuses but given what we have today we would be much better off. Of course the landscape was different in the 1960's but still an competent FCC would make a vast difference. BPL would have been laughed out of the building, Light Squared would never have got their nose under the tent.

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KrK
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Re: A nightmare.

Uh huh. Yep, it's all true. Just ask any wingnut.
slynerve

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I don't know where to begin.

Your post contains so many details that are deluded, strange, and flatout fabrications and distortions that I couldn't possibly comb over them all.

You have no idea what class warfare is or who is actually perpotrating it on the American people.

Your definition of unions is distorted, seemingly purposefully. Of course public service workers pay the people who pay them - they pay taxes. Unlike most of the wealthy, who demand sacrifice and shared burden. Unless they must make it or bear it.

Enviromental protections are there for a reason. I'd prefer not to live in a country where national parks are desolate wastelands and my drinking water is both flammable and riddled with bacteria. The former due to fracking, the other to bizarre pushes to strip the DNR of the ability to regulate drinking water. Why would you want to live in a country like that?

Your next comment is too absurd to even acknowledge.

Lastly: why do we seek to punish those who were robbed rather than the thief?
nOv1c3

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Re: A nightmare.

Of course you don't know where to begin , Most facts logic and truths fly's over a liberal wingnutts head
Poguemahone0

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Re: A nightmare.

edit: wrong thread.

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