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Meanwhile, Comcast BitTorrent Throttling Continues...
As the press applauds a press release, Comcast buys some time...
by Karl Bode 10:17AM Monday Mar 31 2008 Tipped by funchords See Profile
Robb Topolski is the Broadband Reports user who discovered Comcast's packet-forgery traffic shaping nearly half a year before the Associated Press made the practice national news. He reminds us that while the company is getting plenty of hugs and kisses from the press for last week's announcement that they'll be changing their ways, nothing has actually changed yet. For whatever reason, Comcast says it will take the remainder of the year to cure themselves of their BitTorrent-crushing wickedness. Meanwhile, a new run of the same test used nearly a year ago finds that 63% of BitTorrent traffic (95 out of 150 established connections) are being disrupted (torn down using the RST flag) on the Comcast network.


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reply to espaeth

Re: MORE! MORE! MORE!

"Forging RSTs is only about as wrong as cutting in line. "

Since oversimplified examples have been introduced, I'll correct yours:

Forging RSTs is only about as wrong as pulling someone you don't like out of line, punching them in the face and telling them if you see them again you'll do it again.
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Re: If you're not stealing

said by dadkins:

My shit through BT is LEGAL, period!
My shit is getting screwed along side of all of what you are calling "piracy".
Either discern and kill *ONLY* the "bad" things, or back the hell off completely!

Trashing all of it is lame!
Better start killing HTTP too, huh?
WAY too much traffic on that protocol!
FTP too!
All of the above protocols are TCP protocols. Comcast would solve the whole problem if they banned TCP! It's the illegalist of them all!
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said by FFH5:

The issue isn't legal or illegal for Comcast. It is that ALL bittorrent traffic screws up the system.
There is no evidence of this often-repeated claim.

said by FFH5:

Want to blame someone - blame the developers of a protocol that was designed to be a bandwidth hog on purpose
All TCP applications will use all of the bandwidth that they can. The exceptions are programs that have a built-in limiter, which includes the top-two BitTorrent applications (uTorrent and Azureus-Vuze).

Furthermore, none of these applications do anything to abuse bandwidth. They can only use the bandwidth delegated to the subscriber by the modem and the CMTS scheduler.

said by FFH5:

without any regard for any other internet traffic.
The applications don't "hack the modem" or DDOS other users in order to gain an advantage. They use the OS's network stack -- just like any other TCP application.

I want VOIP packets to have priority over BitTorrent, too. But I don't want Comcast, which should be a neutral transit provider, to make such decisions for me. I do hope that Comcast's eventual solution means that Comcast will acknowledge and react to the user's DSCP (QoS) flags in the IP header. Yes, some users will abuse these -- but such abuse is addressable by policy. If P2P file-sharers move their QoS flags above "best effort," I say throttle ALL their traffic to 256/64 for a month as a response!
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Re: MORE! MORE! MORE!

We can concentrate on their other misdeeds then.

You'd be wetting yourself over an AT&T or Verizon story a day.

If Comcast wants off the front page they should quit doing things that land them there.
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Id love if we can actually get a story a day about this. At this rate its only the same story reposted every OTHER day...
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