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| I'm glad I dumped them I was on the old IPhone plan, and with they pulled this stunt, i simply didn't renew my contract. I can live with Sprint, never thought i'd be ever saying that ever. -- I tie a rope around my penis and jump from a tree. Dont you want to grow up and be just like me. | |
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| Re: I'm glad I dumped them said by pizz:I was on the old IPhone plan, and with they pulled this stunt, i simply didn't renew my contract. I can live with Sprint, never thought i'd be ever saying that ever. Same. But i'll probably go to T-Mobile (if they get more towers).
ATT probably lost all their heavy usage customers. Maybe this was their plan - to get the network less congested. -- I found the key to success but somebody changed the lock. | |
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 miniduPremium join:2002-09-28 Cheboygan, MI | I just dumped att because of this crap I actually just switched from att to Sprint because of this crap, my bill for 2 lines was well over $140 month, and I didn't use but 300 minutes on the average month. I was going to go to verizon but their plans were just as bad. I only see it getting worse. | |
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 HangmnDon't Fight It...It's InevitablePremium join:2000-04-08 Philadelphia, PA | As Soon as My Contract is up.... I am running for the hills. I have had it with the Death Star. -- »davescustompc.com | |
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 Elite join:2002-10-03 Orange, CT | Wow These new caps are a crock of shit. I would dump them, but I'm under contract. Looks like I'll be giving VZW my money in a year's time, unless they adapt the same pricing scheme. -- QUAD!!!! | |
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 |  | | Re: Wow they're prices are just as bad as ATT and they'll be next. ATT and VZW play with their caps when the other does. These are the same 2 companies that first started the 5gig cap. Why support them? Sprint's prices are muchless and also do not have the same $375 ETF and give you 30 days to try the service. -- www.twopugsbrand.com Kosher, Vegan, and Organic Certified Dog and Cat treats/foods and other products! | |
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 |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Um.... as long as you're on the unlimited plan now, you'll remain unlimited... but yea, I do agree that the pricing structure is crap as they're moving towards.
Like others have said in the past, including me,... VZ and ATT are on the heels of each other all the time... Sprint will ultimately follow, just watch - they're not there yet because they're just taking advantage of their plans to attract more customers. As soon as they build back up, you watch, they'll pull their "everythings" back.. Sprint, actually, of all carriers, seems to change their offerings more than the others lately. | |
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 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | Nice tool to estimate usage - not just about emails
The AT&T tool is NOT just about advertising how many emails you send before reaching the cap. It allows inputting estimates of all the various smartphone activities you can do to come up with an estimate of how much bandwidth you may use in a month. If used properly, it could help a customer choose what plan would be most economical based on their unique usage patterns. -- Are you happy with your rep in Washington, DC? | |
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 |  HangmnDon't Fight It...It's InevitablePremium join:2000-04-08 Philadelphia, PA | Re: Nice tool to estimate usage - not just about emails Thanks for the commentary..we don't care ATT officially sucks and we are bailing... -- »davescustompc.com | |
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 |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Nice tool to estimate usage - not just about emails And your post is any better? And who is this "we" you talk of? Not everyone is going to bail there buddy... SOME of US are smart enough to know that others have talked about the same pricing points.. you think Verizon is god when it comes to data? You don't think they're next? hah!
It never amazes me the short memory span some people have around here.
Personally, I **HATE** AT&T as a company.. I've often done away with ANY service they provide in my area be it by default or by a take over of another company... however, having the iPhone, for the phone itself, I've yet to have any of these problems people cry about daily - it makes me wonder. And, for the record, I'm a frequent traveler and hit many of the major cities on a regular basis. So far, the only place I HAVE had issues with is NYC - but then again, I have those issues with my Sprint phone as well. The only phone I had good luck there with was Nextel. | |
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 | | streaming video quote: Still -- according to AT&T's own measurements -- it takes just 35 minutes of streaming video before you reach AT&T's 2 GB cap and begin having to pay $10 per gigabyte.
35 minutes = 2GB???
What are you streaming exactly? | |
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 |  | | Re: streaming video While I agree that the caps are misleading, what is even more misleading if this article 35 minutes of streaming is not 2GB if you actually read the webpage the measurements are per day so that 35minutes / day not 35 minutes in a month | |
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 |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: streaming video said by MovieLover76:While I agree that the caps are misleading, what is even more misleading if this article 35 minutes of streaming is not 2GB if you actually read the webpage the measurements are per day so that 35minutes / day not 35 minutes in a month WOW you go to watch a whole 35 minutes of video a DAY! what what a deal for $25!!!!!!
Good thing the NFL didn't do deal with at&t. Their streams are at least 256 kbps. If you watch the 4 games a month on NFLN durring football season and the 4 Sunday Night football games they stream per month you'd use over 2.5 GB per month. | |
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 |  |  |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: streaming video of course but AT&T is a communications company, they are not here to promote the future sadly. they are here to provide as little as possible while increasing their stock price per quarter. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 |  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: streaming video said by Kearnstd:of course but AT&T is a communications company, they are not here to promote the future sadly. they are here to provide as little as possible while increasing their stock price per quarter. And? .... so?
Um, who ever said "the future" was going to be cheap? Who ever said that the future has to be marked down, not up? When was the last time something new (in context) came out and went down in price when released? (addressing you in the context of your message that is)
"The future" comes with a cost.. and, there is nothing wrong with raising money or their bottom line; it's called "business"... its part of supply and demand. And, you know what... even if they are keeping supply low, that's part of business sometimes.
Personally, I still wonder why anyone needs to sit on their cell phone for 2 hours a day watching video in the first place. That kinda speaks loudly to what people are becoming. If one is on the go, then be on the go.. leave TV, video, etc. where it belongs.. behind. Get out of the house to enjoy 'getting out of the house'.. just my opinion, but there's a big problem with the amount of people trying to cram so much crap into their day; people tend to lose focus of what they're on the planet for, usually only about 70 years.. but to each is own. But, no one ever said that it had to be all at a super low price and unlimited... that's just an assumption that people will have to get over as more people demand "more" out of the wireless world.
Like everything else in the past, including wireless voice, once things & dust settles through this transitional period, data too will come back down again.
I personally think more people should spend less time screwing around with cell phones and figuring out how they can cram their lives into 3" screens and brush up more on that all important subject in life... History! | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: streaming video I mean that's great and everything. I understand everything you're saying there. Experience life better instead of having it in a little screen all the time. But there's a time and a place for everything. That place and that time where you're not in the wood's able to look out at the star. Instead in a office waiting for an appointment, or you're car to get fixed. Maybe you reach for your phone and stream a video, or youtube, send those 10 million emails that you're capable of sending.
That little time you spend on your phone doing all of that adds up. Then all of a sudden you're over the cap. Sure you can continue to use you're phone. but at $10 per gig I would rather not. I've never been in a car repair shop that had wireless connection's offered either. And most offices are locked down.
As for streaming at night mp3's. I would plug my phone in and use the wireless connection if you have it. That way you're battery won't die.
I also do agree "the future" does have a cost. but a lot of these companies are starting to play evil in the sense of ditching rural broadband sections throughout the nation to broke and debt laden companies. All to turn around for the original company to come back in with wireless broadband at higher prices. Pretty clever idea.
Plus as far as spending more time camping and experiencing the wilderness. Who doesn't do that almost every summer? Most of the times the phones don't work out there anyways. No big deal. That's why we went there in the first place, right? | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: streaming video "evil"... please, look that word up. It doesn't apply here. I know that comes from the GW Bush era, but really, it's often mis-applied.
Even then, and I agree with you.. it can add up. The fact is that most people are coming back and saying it doesn't. For most people that have responded, they hardly use that much data at all!! Me, I do all those things you described, and even more. However, all year, I've downloaded 985mb on 3G and uploaded 125mb since June 16th of last year according to my phone. And I am always grabbing my phone for stuff.. just as it seems that wifi is always grabbing my connection. For the record, I got my iPhone so that I could cut the chain from me and my desk chair, if that means anything.
At&t is simply saying that their network will be sold by the following rates.. plain and simple. And, that makes them evil? Oh well.. then they're evil as you say.. people have the right to think what they want.. just as the rest of us have the right to speak our opinions to that very sentiment. In other words, you put it out there and you're likely to get an opinion in return.
You also said it best.. at $10 per gig (which I feel is pretty pricey myself) is your choice. They're saying you can use it as you wish, but they're changing their rates and that's the price. As it stands, you're paying $12.50 for the first 2 gigs each, and $10 per additional. At least they're not charging $20 per additional..
And again.. evil. Ditching rural broadband to broke and debt laden companies... who forced these debt laden companies to buy?? No one held a gun to their head did they? But, you're implying that AT&T and Verizon, for example, have some responsibility to hold on to unprofitable areas so as not to be "evil" as you call it? wow... BAD business choice you'd make. It CAN be said that what you're okay with is that people who DO live in metro areas pay MORE for their service in order to subsidize the rural areas.. because that is what happens. But, like I said, no one forces frontier or century link to buy these rural areas - it's their choice. If no one bought out those systems, then I guess the AT&T and Verizon's of the world would have to continue serving them huh?
Also, you're trying to say that this is all about camping and being in the woods.. that's not the case there buddy. People sit in coffee shops and stream videos.. people stream videos on the buss.. people do all these things all over the place. The fact remains that AT&T has decided that new customers get 2gb for a certain price and that's it. How one uses that 2GB is up to them. But, this doesn't make them "EVIL" as you say.. that's a way overly dramatic way of trying to get a point across. But, now that "evil" seems to be the way companies are described, tell me, what word will replace "EVIL" when that level of description needs to be used? Because evil, like the word HATE, is pretty much an ultimate.. and what you're describing is not "ultimate".. | |
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 |  |  |  LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | said by BF69:WOW you go to watch a whole 35 minutes of video a DAY! what what a deal for $25!!!!!! Good thing the NFL didn't do deal with at&t. Their streams are at least 256 kbps. If you watch the 4 games a month on NFLN durring football season and the 4 Sunday Night football games they stream per month you'd use over 2.5 GB per month. This is about a WIRELESS connection and not a landline. And if you want to watch video every day on a mobile device, connect to a WiFi AP and not thru the cell connection. -- Are you happy with your rep in Washington, DC? | |
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 |  |  |  |  GbcueP.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | Re: streaming video said by Linklist:said by BF69:WOW you go to watch a whole 35 minutes of video a DAY! what what a deal for $25!!!!!! Good thing the NFL didn't do deal with at&t. Their streams are at least 256 kbps. If you watch the 4 games a month on NFLN durring football season and the 4 Sunday Night football games they stream per month you'd use over 2.5 GB per month. This is about a WIRELESS connection and not a landline. And if you want to watch video every day on a mobile device, connect to a WiFi AP and not thru the cell connection. Why should he have to? He's paying for a wireless connection, I would use it to my fullest extent (by streaming video every day on a mobile device). -- My Blog 2.0 | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | Re: streaming video said by Gbcue:said by Linklist:said by BF69:WOW you go to watch a whole 35 minutes of video a DAY! what what a deal for $25!!!!!! Good thing the NFL didn't do deal with at&t. Their streams are at least 256 kbps. If you watch the 4 games a month on NFLN durring football season and the 4 Sunday Night football games they stream per month you'd use over 2.5 GB per month. This is about a WIRELESS connection and not a landline. And if you want to watch video every day on a mobile device, connect to a WiFi AP and not thru the cell connection. Why should he have to? He's paying for a wireless connection, I would use it to my fullest extent (by streaming video every day on a mobile device). And that kind of attitude is why there are caps. -- Are you happy with your rep in Washington, DC? | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  GbcueP.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | Re: streaming video said by Linklist:And that kind of attitude is why there are caps. What "attitude"? If you buy a car, I expect you can drive it an infinite number of miles per month, no? As long as you pay your taxes for the upkeep of the road, gas, oil changes, etc. -- My Blog 2.0 | |
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| Re: streaming video Wireless spectrum is very limited, much more than wired services. 20+ years ago when first wireless network came out and was absurdly limited in serving a number of people per area, the bills were very high and the phones cost a lot. No usage is free. This is not like the car when it belongs entirely to you. Your phone may belong to you but not the other end (base station). If you want to use it more, pay more. Its simple. Its usage based and fair. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  GbcueP.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | Re: streaming video said by tom077 :
Wireless spectrum is very limited, much more than wired services. 20+ years ago when first wireless network came out and was absurdly limited in serving a number of people per area, the bills were very high and the phones cost a lot. No usage is free. This is not like the car when it belongs entirely to you. Your phone may belong to you but not the other end (base station). If you want to use it more, pay more. Its simple. Its usage based and fair. But the road, like spectrum, is also finite.
You can only put X cars on the road before you get a traffic jam (dropped calls, slow data). People don't seem to care when they get stuck in a jam either. -- My Blog 2.0 | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  koolman2Premium join:2002-10-01 Anchorage, AK | Re: streaming video Every gallon of fuel you purchase is taxed. Some of that money goes to the Department of Transportation in order to upgrade roads that have reached capacity. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  GbcueP.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | Re: streaming video said by koolman2:Every gallon of fuel you purchase is taxed. Some of that money goes to the Department of Transportation in order to upgrade roads that have reached capacity. I *hope* some of the money you spend for your data plans go towards upgrading max capacity . With AT&T, you never know. -- My Blog 2.0 | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  koolman2Premium join:2002-10-01 Anchorage, AK 1 edit | Re: streaming video It may or may not. Anchorage has a very low population density compared to most cities with AT&T 3G, so speeds are never ridiculously slow here. It's difficult, in fact, to get less than 500 kbps indoors, and I'm usually pulling 1.5 Mbps outside. This is on a 3G, not a 3GS. | |
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Wireless spectrum is very limited, much more than wired services. 20+ years ago when first wireless network came out and was absurdly limited in serving a number of people per area, the bills were very high and the phones cost a lot. No usage is free. This is not like the car when it belongs entirely to you. Your phone may belong to you but not the other end (base station). If you want to use it more, pay more. Its simple. Its usage based and fair. It's not "fair". If you knew anything about AT&T's financials or their cost of providing their service, you would be up in arms at their caps. To put it simply, new technology has made the cost per GB delivered increasingly smaller. HSDPA+ increases 3G's spectrum efficiency. 4G will blow even that out of the water. Your conclusions are misguided. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: streaming video Exactly. I don't get why people justify for incompetence. ATT does not spend money to upgrade ... then increases plan rates to kick out people.
Check Korea/Japan see the cost/feature ratio. it favours the consumer and not the provider. That's result of competition, healthy competition. | |
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 |  |  |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by Linklist:said by BF69:WOW you go to watch a whole 35 minutes of video a DAY! what what a deal for $25!!!!!! Good thing the NFL didn't do deal with at&t. Their streams are at least 256 kbps. If you watch the 4 games a month on NFLN durring football season and the 4 Sunday Night football games they stream per month you'd use over 2.5 GB per month. This is about a WIRELESS connection and not a landline. And if you want to watch video every day on a mobile device, connect to a WiFi AP and not thru the cell connection. and my firends that don't have wi-fi because they don't live in area with broadband so they have no choice but to use the cell connection?
Or maybe I'm at their house or somehwere else where there isn't wi-fi and I want to watch the game?
Besides I'm PAYING for the data plan and you suggest I don't usie it' Ok Einstien so I should give at&t $300 to NOT use data? What a scam.
FACT: data connect plans have 5 GB caps. So why can't the phones at least have that much? Data is data right?
FACT: instead of overages they could just do like t-Mobile and throttle down speeds. That actually solves potential issues. If I have the money and I'm willing to pay I could use 100 GB a month. How does that reduce congestion?
If they insist on caps, then fine I'll pay for what I use. BUT..
FACT: If I go over it does NOT cost at&t $10 to proivde me with an extra GB of data. Even at $1 is enough to pay for the data AND leave enough money for network improvements AND enough money for them to make a profit off of the overage fee. | |
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 |  Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | I agree.. The stream would have to be at least 7mbps.
Most codecs can compress it down to around 500kbps to 1mbps and retain excellent quality. Even my DVDs recoded with Nero AVC (768kbps MP4-AVC Video, 256kbps AAC-HE 5.1 Audio, 2 Pass) look really darn good at 720x480res.
..if you're desperate, you could compress it down to 256kbps MP4-AVC Video, 64kbps AAC-HE 2.0 Audio, 2 Pass, but you'd have to reduce the resolution (maybe 360x240) so it doesn't look like complete crap. -- Bresnan 15M/1M MyWS[PDC@3.6GHz,4GB RAM,2x1TB HDDs,Win7] WifeWS[A64@2GHz,2GB RAM,120GB HDD,Win7] Router[2xP3@1GHz,512MB RAM,18GB HDD,SMC 8432BTA,2xDigital DE504,Compaq NC3131,Intel Pro/1000MT,IBM Gigabit Ethernet-SX,Allied Telesyn AT-2560FX,Gentoo Linux] | |
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 |  |  GbcueP.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | Re: streaming video said by Simba7:I agree.. The stream would have to be at least 7mbps. AT&T reaching that speed? Haha! -- My Blog 2.0 | |
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 |  |  |  GbcueP.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | Re: streaming video said by nasadude:1Mbps would do it: 35 minutes = 2100 sec * 1Mbps = 2Gb You didn't do the conversion from bits to bytes. -- My Blog 2.0 | |
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 |  jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1 | Seems high, even for WiFi standards.
Does anyone have any stats on the adaptive bitrate technology over 3G?
I thought I read somewhere that claimed that 150 kbps was the maximum allowed for streaming video to the iPhone, but I could not find anything to back this up. | |
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 |  budone join:2002-09-07 Coopersville, MI | said by joebear29: quote: Still -- according to AT&T's own measurements -- it takes just 35 minutes of streaming video before you reach AT&T's 2 GB cap and begin having to pay $10 per gigabyte.
35 minutes = 2GB??? What are you streaming exactly? The ATT site with the slidebar states 35 minutes of streaming video A DAY uses 2GB. | |
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 RickPremium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT | While nothing AT&T does surprises me anymore what I am surprised about is the way Apple continues to embrace them as their proprietary network provider for the i-phone. I was nothing less than SHOCKED that Apple didn't announce yesterday as part of their keynote speech that they were opening up their I4 to other providers...shocked because you now have them facing competition like the android AND because of what AT&T has just done in terms of capping data usage.
Why on earth would a company like Apple tie their fortunes to the negativity around this issue? They don't have to and to do so says something I think about the bad decisions being made by Steve Jobs in this regard.
Like I said..at&t doing this really doesn't surprise me at all. I think they're a very poorly run company and have been since their decision to try to continue to milk their landlines in favor of spending some money to do things right in terms of trying to compete with the cable competition.
But apple..they surprise me. And when Jobs was rolling out his 8 main points during yesterdays I4 keynote..# 1 should have been to announce an end to the proprietary agreement with AT&T.
He made a very big mistake in not doing so.
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 SSidlovOther Things On My MindPremium join:2000-03-03 Pompton Lakes, NJ Reviews:
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| While I agree with the premise... I totally agree with the premise of this Mutlichannel News article, it takes the basic rule and defiantly 'follows the money' to find out the truth against all the chatter.
While everyone can talk that they 'won't upgrade' the plan they have or switch to another carrier, etc., the hard caps that even unlimited plans have can still come to bite you in the end.
However, we now find that having a WiFi acct access is more important as a method around the problem. I'm not talking about an ATT wifi acct but here in the NY area, a Cablevision/TWC/Comcast wifi acct which is included with your ISP bill.
CV has made an attempt to cover wifi in the Tri-State region at your 'local main street' many local parks and transportation routes. They have joined with TWC and Comcast to share those companies wifi spots (most notably, Bryant Park and Citipark (aka Mets Stadium). A smartphone's ability to switch off to wifi for data is going to be advantageous in the future. At least at this time, CV's isn't charging their customers any extra. -- »www.Warpstock.org
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| Call me crazy.. I guess I'm mentally deficient because these caps don't bother me. 3G isn't that fast in my area (or anywhere in Florida) so I rarely use it for anything bandwidth intensive. I check my e-mail, play the occasional game, use the maps app when I need it, etc and I never have gone over 150MB for the month.
I understand there are some who use much more data than I and I can understand the frustration, but I would imagine most don't use it as much as we think. | |
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 IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC kudos:1 | Since when has AT&T been interested in saving people money? Since when has AT&T ever been interested in saving people money?
What a crock....
Don't forget the "bait and switch" for people who bought iPad 3G devices with an unlimited data plan that was sold on the basis of being able to turn it on and off at will.
Gosh, that lasted just over a month...
Hello FTC and BBB! -- "We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it." Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army | |
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2 edits | You guys are full of it!!! You sit there moaning and complaining about how you are surprised and not surprised, Apple needs to leave AT&T, these caps aren't enough, and yadda yadda yadda.
This change affects all smartphone users so how come I don't here the Blackberry, HTC, or Android (OS) users complaining? They use just as much data as iPhone users.
Before crap starts flying out of your mouth check your own usage and see if you are affected by the change. Even if you are no matter what company you go to you will definitely be limited since all service agreements have language that limits you to "reasonable use". Once they see you are one of the AT&T exiles you will see their wrath. LOL
I just checked my usage for the past 8 months and the most I have used is 1.7 Gigs in one month. 1.7 Gigs people! I have the iPhone 3GS and I stream music, live TV, have my emails with attachments downloaded automatically, stream live video out from my iPhone with UStream, and have several pages of downloaded games. Ummm yeah the 2 Gig cap is such a hassle for me I can't think of anything else to do to reach that limit.
AT&T went through this before with the Laptop Connect service as well. THe difference is you couldn't keep the unlimited plan even if you paid more for it. Every Laptop Connect user got capped to 5Gigs! Yet people still buy it now. This makes me lauge even more. LMAO
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 |  GlennI'D Rather Be SkiingPremium join:2000-10-05 Wallingford, CT Reviews:
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| Re: You guys are full of it!!! said by megatron266:You sit there moaning and complaining about how you are surprised and not surprised, Apple needs to leave AT&T, these caps aren't enough, and yadda yadda yadda. This change affects all smartphone users so how come I don't here the Blackberry, HTC, or Android (OS) users complaining? They use just as much data as iPhone users. I'm on a BB Bold 9700 on AT&T, so is my wife.
Last month, I used 600megs, she a few ticks under 500. We do a lot of streaming music on weekend roadtrips; I use it daily on my short to and from work commute. I also listen to podcasts via Viigo. -- Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less. | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by megatron266:You sit there moaning and complaining about how you are surprised and not surprised, Apple needs to leave AT&T, these caps aren't enough, and yadda yadda yadda. This change affects all smartphone users so how come I don't here the Blackberry, HTC, or Android (OS) users complaining? They use just as much data as iPhone users. because most are on Verizon, T-Mobile or Sprint. | |
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| No. iPhone for me...until Remember don't piss on an electric fence.  | |
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| Re: ATT new fee schedule I have heard on Podcasts that have a business subject that because of these changes Business's that where interviewed are no longer going to issue iPhone to their employees and are exploring other options. -- I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's. - Mark Twain in Eruption | |
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| said by marvin25:This is a means for ATT to make money as it is losing all its business to an ISP in rural America that works thru the electric coops. They don't know how to compete against and tried to stop their growth by means of Congress and lost. The only result was that they had to find a quick way to make up for their loss of money as they were going into negative income in rural America. This is first time in their history that they are meeting competition and losing their shirt. So the people on the Iphone are the ones to pay for their loss. This is first article that is saying it is to make money as they are almost dead broke with the losses from rural America and no transfer period. So get use to it as they use 1984 to speak this problem. Maybe they will learn how to compete instead of getting Government to stop any company from competing with no real justification. They wanted to stop the growth of the Internet rural America and they found that the electric coops know how to fight period. They are still trying to stop this ISP by Law as this is only way they can compete period. They don't care if rural America doesn't get broadband as it will stop their losses. The bottom line rural America is expandable which what they don't want to hear. which company is cuasing AT&T these issues you speak of? | |
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 VanPremium join:2009-07-08 New Orleans, LA | I will continue with AT&T as long as their continue honoring my unlimited cap
And I have never gone over 1 gig in a month....but I figure with me expanding to more youtube videos or some netflix movies or whatever.....I will eventually go over that
When they force me to have a cap as low as 2 gigs, I will run for the hills and change phones and I am an iPhone-till-I-die type guy | |
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| sad I've said it before i'll say it again.. Greed has caused and will continue to cause technilogical regression in this country/world. Electronics can save money and time, but greed ends up making them just a simplier way for buisness's to rank in effortless dough...
This is why I think LTE will be dead before it even arrives!
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| What a joke.. Once they change this for current customers, its terms to cancel your contract ETF free. I will defiantly be canceling when and if this hits current customers. I manage 600mb a day on my iPhone. Last month I pulled 10GB usage just by streaming music from live365. Nothing like listening to music to help you sleep. -- Affordable Web-Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Ventrilo, & Teamspeak services since 1999 @ »www.deadlyservers.com | |
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 | | Fees fees fees.... See this is why I view my cell phone for what it is and use it for what it is. IT'S A CELL PHONE PEOPLE! It's used to make and receive phone calls. I have absolutley no interest in using my 'phone' to watch videos or look up the stockmarket on a tiny little 2 inch screen. It's insane!
Why can't people just continue doing what they have been doing for years. Waiting until they get home or to work to use a real full sized computer?
I used to travel a lot for my company (when I had a job) and I would sit in airports watch people play with their cell phone for over an hour sometimes. Why? My cell phone lived in my pocket. It would beep if I got a call or a message. There was absolutely no reason to take the damn out of my pocket every 3 minutes to flip it open and check for stuff.
You know I have ATT and my monthly bill is a flat $59.95 a month plus the taxes and crap but the point is I never have to worry about usage fees or overages because I'm not using my phone for stupid stuff like checking the stock market or watching videos on Youtube. Hey if I want entertainment in an airport I head to a pub and hit up on some hot attractive woman to pass the time. I got more nooky that way then I ever did playing with my stupid cell phone.
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Why can't people just continue doing what they have been doing for years. Waiting until they get home or to work to use a real full sized computer?
My cell phone lived in my pocket. It would beep if I got a call or a message. There was absolutely no reason to take the damn out of my pocket every 3 minutes to flip it open and check for stuff.
You know I have ATT and my monthly bill is a flat $59.95 a month plus the taxes and crap but the point is I never have to worry about usage fees or overages because I'm not using my phone for stupid stuff like checking the stock market or watching videos on Youtube. Hey if I want entertainment in an airport I head to a pub and hit up on some hot attractive woman to pass the time. I got more nooky that way then I ever did playing with my stupid cell phone.
It is called progress. Why would you use a computer to access the Internet for stocks or read news ? Aren't newspapers good enough ? | |
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 |  thenderScreen tycoonPremium join:2009-01-01 Brooklyn, NY kudos:1 1 edit | I thank the lord everyday narrow minded individuals like yourself have no say in the progress of technology. You lack the vision & experience to understand how it can improve the day to day operations of so many people & businessmen.
You only see how it would effect your tiny life, and figure if you can live without it, so should the rest of the world. And when others say how the new technology helps them immensely, you'll write it off and say "you should just do X", without ever having been in their shoes.
You're no better than those people who think the only use of simultaneous data & voice is to web browse & ignore the person on the phone! -- If you're going to repair your own Macbook, benefit from my experiences. | |
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And I'm being generous here! a Bell 212A will give you 388MB per month, and a Hayes 9600 will give you a little over 3GB for the month. Hell, even Closed Captioning (on the "old" USA Analog NTSC TV standard) would give me more bandwidth over a month's period than the 200mb AT&T data plan!
Just to remind everybody, the Bell 212A (available only on "The Bell System" .. remember them?) was released in 1976, and the Hayes 9600 was released in 1987.
Welcome "Back To The Future" -- well at least Part 2, since now AT&T is mimicking the same plot line as the aforementioned movie --- Part 2, that is. | |
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