 RayWPremium join:2001-09-01 Layton, UT kudos:1 | Illegal begats illegal Reminds me of the old feud movies . | |
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 TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus join:2001-06-20 Cheyenne, WY | Tek series This whole battle reminds me of the excellent Tek series of William Shatner. Matrix riders, Matrix police, etc. -- Eat a BLT for Iran | |
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 Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX | MediaDefender a victim of the Streisand Effect From Wikipedia:
The "Streisand effect" is a term used to describe a phenomenon on the Internet where an attempt to censor or remove (in particular, by the means of cease-and-desist letters) a certain piece of information (for example, a photograph, file, or even a whole website) backfires and the information receives extensive publicity on the Internet, often widely mirrored, or distributed on file-sharing networks in a short period of time.
»yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=···/1237203
This is exactly what has happened to MediaDefender. -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
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 RyanPremium join:2001-03-03 Quincy, MA | haha This is the most entertain news stories I have seen in a while. haha just keeps getting better. | |
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 intellerSociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK | insert 0wn3d! picture here.... never piss off hackers. | |
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| Re: insert 0wn3d! picture here.... said by inteller:never piss off hackers. More like never piss off your employees. This is obviously a gift from someone either unhappy about their job evaluation at MD, or an internal disgruntled one. | |
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 |  knightmbEverybody Lies join:2003-12-01 Franklin, TN | said by inteller:never piss off hackers. 
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 |  Combat ChuckToo Many CannibalsPremium join:2001-11-29 Erie, PA | Re: Funny Here's my question.
So these guys (not just MDD, just smartass hacker guy in general) are basically fighting an information war with some company and his hired lawyer.
So they get an email from said lawyer and their immediate response is to fire off a smartass email; wouldn't it be better to just keep your mouth shut that way the lawyer sees his client as just a job, instead of risking him taking it personally and coming after you for revenge; with the added benefit that you deprive the enemy of more information?
That's what I'd do, then my adversary wouldn't know if he had even hit me or if I even really exist in the form he thinks I do and the lawyer remains basically a mercenary with little allegiance to his client beyond what he is paid; they just keep firing into the wind. -- Mooooooo!!! | |
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| Re: Funny Naw, it's much funnier to ridicule the idiot lawyers on a a website.
Honestly, having known more than a few lawyers over the years who have highly inflated egos, I do find it amusing imagining a bunch of suits sitting in an office somewhere plotting their next move against a few twenty-something hackers who are safe and sound in Norway. For some reason, the rest of the world doesn't seem to give much of a crap when US lawyers start throwing their weight around (for obvious reasons!) | |
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said by jester121:who are safe and sound in Norway. Maybe they are right now. What happens if they have to go to the states for some reason? What happens if Norway law enforcement has a change of heart? What happens if they don't actually live in Norway and the lawyer gets smart and hires his own hackers?
It's just not smart; keep your cards hidden and you have more options than if you sound off just to stroke your ego. -- Mooooooo!!! | |
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USS! USS!
I like turr-tules -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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 |  doppler join:2003-03-31 Blue Point, NY | Re: Damn..... said by N3OGH:DAMN! YOU'VE JUST BEEN P-OWNED USS! USS! I like turr-tules Media-defender can give me a carwash.
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 |  x30n_Not Sure What Color Pill To Call ItPremium join:2000-09-14 wrong turn | said by N3OGH:DAMN! YOU'VE JUST BEEN P-OWNED USS! USS! I like turr-tules Ramone, please show the guys at MediaDefender what its like to be pwned.. -- Get your own Gamercard Sig. | |
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| ARIN abuse complaints? I've never heard of ARIN going after someone due to abuse. I would imagine you'd have to simultaneously be serving child porn, hacking government computers, sending many megabits of spam and of course have an upstream provider that really, really does not care. -- Dogma is the problem. | |
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| May be backwords here but... It's getting old hearing about how all of these "hackers" try to save the planet like in that stupid movie.
So let's start, first p2p was created to share stuff. Well that's nice and all but it now it gives morons the ability to share their legal stuff to people who want illegal copies. And of course, lets not forget people that just don't give a rats ass about legality so they share everything because it's just "bits" right? Anyway, so MD comes along and decides to cramp the moron style and clog up even more bandwidth by sharing garbage. I could care less as I'm not interested in p2p but it is a neat idea, though a huge wasted of bandwidth and only increases my gaming latency.
So now, we have MDD. They scratched the protocol a bit and post information about MD (now that's REAL hacking)a. Now they think there all bad-ass because they are serving leaked content, wow. Oh and then there's the "you can get me because I'm in Norway" crap. Ohh, they can use that 12yr old internet anonymous stuff in real life, impressive.
Lame. -- »www.fairtax.org | |
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Actually it's 'they're' which is the contraction of 'they' and 'are'; as in, "...they're all bad ass..."
And if you're (contraction of 'you' and 'are') going to play grammar cop, at least know WTF you are talking about. -- Praise be to my Cadillac | |
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1 edit | Re: May be backwords here but... You are correct - I thought it was the possessive, but it's the contraction.
Actually, it is still extremely awkward with "they're." "They are all bad-ass" isn't a real elegant clause either.
Lame car you have as an avatar.
And before you write anything about my avatar, yeah, I know - lame too. -- Illegitimati non carborundum
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| Re: May be backwords here but... It's lame that you actually posted a response to your incorrect usage of grammar. Face it, it's the internet, where millions of people type in lowercase all day long and nobody cares unless YOU TURN ON THE CAPSLOCK KEY, THEN THEY THINK YOU'RE YELLING AT THEM...
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~smiling at her own nice avatar~
~going off to get more popcorn~
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 |  deadzonedPremium join:2005-04-13 Baton Rouge, LA | The best part is MD working with the AG of NY though! (I guess we use the same "If you have nothing to hide then why be concerned?" excuse again just like with the NSA wiretapping stuff? I guess my point is simply this: No oversight of the system leads to abuse of the system every time.
While I don't support any type of crime, I have to say, it all seems a bit like a natural checks and balances to me. None of the parties involved seem to be in a position to claim innocence anyway. 
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1 edit | Nice, the only response was grammar correction; now that's a comeback!
By the way, nobody likes grammar police on the internet but after the responses to your post it should be obvious.
Edit: Figured I'd change BTW to by the way since you aren't fond of 'texting' style. Don't need to get harped on for that too .
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 |  hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA kudos:1 1 edit | Re: talk about illegal DAMN!!!
Makes you wonder what else they have on their systems that may not be legit.
Someone should send an emial off to grimsoft.com about this -- People pray to God because they're told to. | |
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 |  |  Beylan join:2001-09-15 Mount Airy, MD | Re: talk about illegal MediaDefender vs the BSA?
I would LOVE to watch that fight | |
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 |  |  amungusPremium join:2004-11-26 America | it's "grisoft" actually - »www.grisoft.com
darn funny find though.
this whole story is just insane. | |
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 |  |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | ROFL!!!!
Media Defender guilty of violations of copyright laws and licensing arrangements!
That's just too rich. | |
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 |  birdfeedrPremium,MVM join:2001-08-11 Warwick, RI kudos:5 | unless it was his personal laptop making the email connection at the time that one was sent.
IIRC, all the emails were forwarded (or copied, or whatever) to someone's gmail account, which is where they got 'acquired'. | |
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quote: So! I'd like to make you aware of the following facts:
* You don't have any jurisdiction in Norway. * The server is located in Norway. * I'm located in Norway. * Norway is not the United States of America.
LMAO! Go hackers! -- 2001 Pontiac Firebird V6 3.8L
Mods: Flowmasters Cat-back Exhaust System Cold Air Intake
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I went to their IRC... all the people there were trying to hack into something. | |
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 | | Oh Noes !! Installing spyware on peoples computers ? Using AVG in vilation of the software liscence ?
future is not looking bright for the MediaDefender guys
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 |  mrchrisOut and aroundPremium join:2002-10-01 North Babylon, NY | Re: Oh Noes !! Next time they should use real cuffs, not some lame photoshopped ones. | |
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 |  HRMGod Bless AmericaPremium,MVM join:2002-02-03 Darien, CT kudos:1 | said by Warden :
Using AVG in violation of the software license ? That really is very telling isn't it.
DIGITAL RIGHTS are important, until it is in their interests to ignore someones TOS and digital rights and save a few bucks.
If they need something, it is OK, just the rest of the world has to obey laws. | |
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| what a bunch of scumbags... From reading through it some, those idiots even used Tor and anon proxies in order to do their deeds...for the record labels...jeez.
Comments like this are just repugnant:
quote: Package the decoys well. Make album art and nfo files if you need to. Make them look real. The music labels will be looking at them and will be pissed if they are obviously decoys.
Hope they fry.
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