Microsoft Preps LTE Windows Phones, Solely On AT&T Three LTE Devices, All AT&T, Shipping Before Q3 2012 Thursday Dec 29 2011 16:24 EDT The Google Galaxy Nexus is currently the latest and greatest LTE phone on the market, and the latest completely-unsubstantiated-Apple rumors suggest that their LTE-capable iPhone may not drop until late next year. Microsoft meanwhile is preparing to launch several LTE devices -- all of them on AT&T. According to Paul Thurrott, the Nokia ACE, HTC Radiant, and Samsung Mendel--will ship on AT&T Wireless before the middle of 2012 -- with the ACE being the earliest on March 18. Additional reports suggest that Microsoft's cooking up a Windows phone cloud backup service that's surely going to have fun playing with AT&T's low caps and up to $10 per gigabyte overages. As an aside, this post by former Windows Phone GM Charlie Kindel discusses why, despite being a fairly well-reviewed experience, Windows Phone has yet to take off. |
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SoIt's clear Microsoft is sucking mad AT&T meat, why not Verizon who has a larger LTE network TODAY, not TOMORROW, like AT&T's is. | |
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2011-Dec-29 5:44 pm
Re: Sosaid by OSUGoose:It's clear Microsoft is sucking mad AT&T meat, why not Verizon who has a larger LTE network TODAY, not TOMORROW, like AT&T's is. I have not seen the hardware specs but I assume by supporting AT&T it means they do not have a CDMA version. It wasn't until the CDMA specific iPhone 4 came out in the Spring of 2011 that iPhone support for VZW was even possible with an iPhone. With GSM/UMTS being the dominant mobile technology in the world, it makes more sense for a carrier to develop for that platform first. Luckily LTE is being adopted by all the carriers though it too has its different flavors. | |
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Re: Sosaid by n2jtx:said by OSUGoose:It's clear Microsoft is sucking mad AT&T meat, why not Verizon who has a larger LTE network TODAY, not TOMORROW, like AT&T's is. I have not seen the hardware specs but I assume by supporting AT&T it means they do not have a CDMA version. It wasn't until the CDMA specific iPhone 4 came out in the Spring of 2011 that iPhone support for VZW was even possible with an iPhone. With GSM/UMTS being the dominant mobile technology in the world, it makes more sense for a carrier to develop for that platform first. Luckily LTE is being adopted by all the carriers though it too has its different flavors. Only problem for VZW is when one is not in an LTE area the fall back is CDMA, so again it hurts VZW. LTE with fall back to GSM/UMTS will be dominant technology still. Still would be better if the carriers played nice with each other & allowed roaming on their LTE band, since all carriers will have different LTE bands all over world. Last I read I think there are 12 or so LTE bands, good luck getting an LTE World Phone! | |
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Probably because a Verizon rep made the mistake a week or two ago of pretty much telling Microsoft that they better come to VZ with LTE phones or don't come at all!
I was a loyal Verizon customer for 6 years then promptly dropped them on December 24 last year to get my hands on a Dell Venue Pro with TMobile (no regrets). I just got tired of waiting on Verizon to get some nice looking phones and the same applies today. ATT, despite their network quality issues have the best looking and most powerful phones on the market while Verizon is still playing catch-up.
Verizon seems to think Microsoft is disparate to get phones on their network but Verizon has forgotten that Microsoft has already made its sale when the phone manufacturer purchased the license for WP7. Verizon should be concerned about being too reliant on Android and should be working with Microsoft instead of trying to dictate terms to them. | |
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2011-Dec-29 6:41 pm
Re: SoI suspect what someone else posted - no LTE/CDMA, only LTE/HPSA+/GSM. Personally, I don't see it as an issue, as Windows Phone is effectively a dead on arrival product. | |
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said by OSUGoose:It's clear Microsoft is sucking mad AT&T meat, why not Verizon who has a larger LTE network TODAY, not TOMORROW, like AT&T's is. And once ATT blows their load all over Msofts face, their Win phone will become a faded memory. | |
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And the world Yawned....Yup, we all yawned. WP7 is going nowhere and there are few that actually like that FUGLY mess of an OS. The rest of the world will quietly grab their iPhones, Droids, and Blackberries and give the thumbs down to the mess that is Windows Phone 7. | |
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Re: And the world Yawned....Wait, what? This goes against everything I've heard about WP7. You want a mess of an OS, look at android! | |
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Re: And the world Yawned....said by LineNoise:Wait, what? This goes against everything I've heard about WP7. You want a mess of an OS, look at android! The live tiles are fugly and a real waste of screen real estate. The UI is horrible with cut off titles and few visual cues how to do things. It's different looking but not good for the mobile space. Then again, Microsoft really doesn't do great UI's well. | |
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2011-Dec-29 5:07 pm
wp7 ltei just switched from the samsung focus to the flash and i love it the speeds are good and cant wait for the new phones to come out ....just like the first xbox was a disaster but bounced back with the second one ... the wp will do the same ms got the money to throw at wp to its a sucess , more people will adopt it when windows 8 comes out , im talking computers and phones here. | |
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Will the work better?They may work if AT&T can put up a LTE network the don't crash like Verizon's LTE has lately. But they are way behind with there LTE deployments along with Microsoft in the smartphone market. | |
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Make LTE Phones a subscription! Deliver one phone and when that phone becomes obsolete in Six Month send the customer a new phone and have the customer return the old phone in a postage paid package. When the second phone becomes obsolete in six months send the customer a new phone and have them return the old phone the same way. I bet for an extra $200.00 per year and a signed 5 Year contract the wireless boys can get that job done. | |
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phlonehlome
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2011-Dec-29 5:42 pm
HaAnd all four windows phone users rejoice! | |
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Re: HaYes but at least we don't have to root our phones to remove carrier and OEM bloat or to get the latest software update to work on last gen phones. /Pretty sure you will reply back when your Android finish charging for the 6th time today | |
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Re: Hasaid by odreian615:Yes but at least we don't have to root our phones to remove carrier and OEM bloat Yes, this would be correct. Cause you can't root to get rid of any carrier bloat, and even on Windows Mobile 7 phones, it is there. Oh, and we don't exactly know HOW updates are going to be handled on WP7 phones cause there really are no last gen products yet. They all have Mango, sure, but even the G1 (launched with 1.4) was able to go all the way to Donut (1.6) and the developer community has kept THAT one alive with even a working rom of Android 4.0.1, even with all of it's hardware limitations (and yes, the hardware was kinda crappy on it). Let's give WP7 3 years to see if it still actually updates it's first gen phones, or even has a community that CAN do what the OEM can't/won't do. said by odreian615:/Pretty sure you will reply back when your Android finish charging for the 6th time today Funny, I tend to only have to charge my phone up once a day, with moderate use... depending on which one I use that day (they all get on average a nice full day of use). This is with gmail, exchange all push, decent usage, etc etc, so it's not like I let it sit around doing nothing. | |
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Re: HaThere are last Gen phones i.e Samsung Focus and HTC trophy. The 2nd gen phones are the Titan, Radar, Focus S, Focus Flash, and Nokia Lumia 710 & 800. There are three 2.5 gen phones coming in March with LTE and Tango As for the updates so far there has been two and two more coming NoDo(minor) spring of 2011 Mango(major) July 2011 Tango 1&2(minor) spring 2012 Apollo aka W8(major) July 2012 And yes all will work with 1st-3rd gen phones You can go to any Android Forum and see the battery issue problems or you can just ask your friends "why in the hell are you keep asking to use my charger" /I have no problem with Android( I recommended the Atrixx to my brother and the SG S2 to my cousin), I have problems with the fandroids that get on site and spew lies about something they have no clue about. | |
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2011-Dec-29 11:10 pm
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It doesn't matter how good/bad Android is or how bad Winphone7 is, the fact is the end-to-end Windows Phone "experience" isn't a positive one for anyone involved.
OEM's/Carriers don't like the restrictions Microsoft is putting on them, and last time I checked, Carriers and OEM's are the ones who get to say what runs on their networks and advertise for them. | |
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Re: HaOEM's/Carriers don't like the restrictions Microsoft is putting on them, and last time I checked, Carriers and OEM's are the ones who get to say what runs on their networks and advertise for them. So in other words you don't mind OEMs and carriers loading crap on your phone that run in the background is cool. /Oh good luck getting ICS on your 1.5 year old phones » www.fudzilla.com/mobiles ··· s-a-jokePeople will be running Apollo on their Samsung Focus before people running ICS on the Focus's cousin Samsung Galaxy S 1 | |
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2011-Dec-31 8:33 am
Re: HaSounds like someone's deliberately missing the point. | |
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Um, hows that working with Apple and the carriers? | |
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said by phlonehlome :And all four windows phone users rejoice! said by odreian615:Yes but at least we don't have to root our phones to remove carrier and OEM bloat or to get the latest software update to work on last gen phones. /Pretty sure you will reply back when your Android finish charging for the 6th time today As an aside, this post by former Windows Phone GM Charlie Kindel discusses why, despite being a fairly well-reviewed experience, Windows Phone has yet to take off. » ceklog.kindel.com/2011/1 ··· ken-off/I would like to believe that at the end of the day the superior end to end experience for the end user matters more than anything. And that MS quote shows why WP hasn't taken off. A MS belief that the end user cares about the end to end experience. He has given too much credit to the end user. Most end users buy what is FASHIONABLE(re heavily advertised), and not what works best. | |
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Re: Hasaid by FFH5 And that MS quote shows why WP hasn't taken off. A MS belief that the end user cares about the end to end experience. He has given too much credit to the end user. Most end users buy what is FASHIONABLE(re heavily advertised), and not what works best. [/BQUOTE :Or because the user associates Windows with their unreliable PC that needs constant care and feeding and doesn't run right. They don't want that on their phone. IMHO that's why XBox took off. MS wasn't emphasised at all.
Or because a user looks at the mess that is Windows Phone and goes "HUH?". You have the tiles but how to get to your apps? With the iPhone they are all there, click the home screen to get to them. With Android, click the triangle and see the app drawer. WTF do I do on windows phone? Scroll left, right, up, down, what?
Someone who devoted their career to a product is going to think it's great. However, the rest of the world sees it for what it is - a horrible OS. | |
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2011-Dec-29 6:31 pm
Cloud backup thru WiFi default method» Microsoft Preps LTE Windows Phones, Solely On AT&T [26] commentsquote: Microsoft's cooking up a Windows phone cloud backup service that's surely going to have fun playing with AT&T's low caps and up to $10 per gigabyte overages.
Why would LTE or 3G caps come in to play at all? More than likely the cloud backup would be, by default, only over WiFi or thru USB connections. I would be pretty confident that LTE or 3G cloud backup would only be by user choice. | |
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Re: Cloud backup thru WiFi default methodYou can go into cellular setting and turn data connection off | |
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Desperate measuresYawn, it's a M$ product, you'll have to reboot your phone every hour, or you might get the (insert colour here) screen of death in the middle of a call.
No thanks, I'll pass on M$ being involved in any phone I buy. | |
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Re: Desperate measureshave you even used one before you regurgitated that typical anti-MS garbage? | |
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