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| . As a photographer, I'm all for taking pictures and posting them online. I'm not deleting or cropping anyone out just because you ask me to.
Also, I hope that Google never "become grown up as some of the larger companies" - they're doing right and different from the mold and I hope they never change out of that. | |
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| Re: . It would take the prowler years to looks through all the street view pics trying to find one person who may not even be in any of the pictures.
Do you think you can just type in someone's name and it will take you to a picture of them in street view? | |
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| said by Dream Killer  :As a photographer, I'm all for taking pictures and posting them online. I'm not deleting or cropping anyone out just because you ask me to. Well aren't you the uncurtious pile of ****!
It will be funny when you or someone you care about gets photograghed in a humiliating position and those photos go world-wide. It's not just MS and google, its people like you that are subtly killing privacy too | |
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join:2002-01-03
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| Re: . Don't argue with a photographer. They make money taking pictures of things they don't own, then they claim they own the photo of it. It's a shady business. Because of them people with home cameras can't get pictures developed if they look "professional" and can't reprint things like year book photos and family photos because somehow paying someone to take your picture gives them ownership of the picture by default. | |
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Woodside, NY | Re: . Work made for hire, if I pay a wedding photographer for their services, I technically own the photos. If I wanted to be an ass I could go to court and have them seized if need be.
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| Re: . Sorry, the person you are replying to is correct.
If you are commissioned to take wedding photos then you own all copyright. The people who pay you for the photos are paying you to reproduce them but that doesn't mean you give up your copyright.
Meanwhile, no, just because people ask not to be taken doesn't mean they can stop you from taking photos anywhere other than inside a military base. Even those they can assault you but cannot legally in the US prevent you from taking photos or take your photos at any time, even with a disclaimer stating "No Photography allowed"...first amendment folks, learn it. It isn't given up unless you allow yourself to. | |
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| said by S_engineer :It will be funny when you or someone you care about gets photograghed in a humiliating position and those photos go world-wide. It's not just MS and google, its people like you that are subtly killing privacy too If you are out in public, what right do you have to privacy?
I believe the courts have ruled many times over you have no privacy rights in public.
Now if they are using a telephoto lens or thermal imaging camera and are looking into the windows of a private home, that is a privacy invasion.
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james
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| said by S_engineer :its people like you that are subtly killing privacy too And it's people like you who are overtly killing freedom of speech and expression.
If you dont want to be photographed in a humiliating position, then don't do humiliating things in plain view of public property. | |
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| Re: . said by james :If you dont want to be photographed in a humiliating position, then don't do humiliating things in plain view of public property. Your private property isn't public. Google goes even as far as driving up your private road to take photos of you by your pool.  | |
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| Re: . Yeah, it's a big conspiracy by google! They're sneaking onto all of our private property in order to document our activities. It's not possible or likely that the private road they turned onto wasn't clearly marked as private, so they mistook it for a public road.
While I do agree that it was stupid of them to photograph on private property AND illegal for them to publish the pictures, that's not what S_engineer is talking about. He thinks that it is (or should be) illegal for anyone to photograph anyone on public property, and is telling photographers that they're "whats wrong with this country HURRRR GODDERM TERRIST!". | |
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| Re: . said by james :Yeah, it's a big conspiracy by google! They're sneaking onto all of our private property in order to document our activities. It's not possible or likely that the private road they turned onto wasn't clearly marked as private, so they mistook it for a public road. That they did, is the problem.
said by james :While I do agree that it was stupid of them to photograph on private property AND illegal for them to publish the pictures, that's not what S_engineer is talking about. He thinks that it is (or should be) illegal for anyone to photograph anyone on public property, and is telling photographers that they're "whats wrong with this country HURRRR GODDERM TERRIST!". It should be if it's used to make a profit off of it; and if it's done to invade a person's privacy.
We're not public figures afterall.
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| said by ChrisXP :said by james :If you dont want to be photographed in a humiliating position, then don't do humiliating things in plain view of public property. Your private property isn't public. Google goes even as far as driving up your private road to take photos of you by your pool. "Private road" =/= you own it and nobody else can drive on it. It means it's paid for by the community. That does not preclude driving on that road. As stated, as long as they're not invading places where you DO have a defensible right to privacy - your living room/driveway/backyard, for example - you have no complaint. | |
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| Re: . said by MisterMarcus :"Private road" =/= you own it and nobody else can drive on it. It means it's paid for by the community. Nope, it's laid by you or made by paying someone else to lay the road for you. Be it a dirt or asphalt. It's yours, and not to be used by third parties.
said by MisterMarcus :That does not preclude driving on that road. It does if it has a no trespassing sign around the property (doesn't even need to be posted near the road even).
No trespassing means -- stay off the property.
And like all road signs, the excuse "I didn't see it!" doesn't apply (try telling a cop that when you drive 60mph in a 30mph zone!).
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| Re: . said by ChrisXP :said by MisterMarcus :"Private road" =/= you own it and nobody else can drive on it. It means it's paid for by the community. Nope, it's laid by you or made by paying someone else to lay the road for you. Be it a dirt or asphalt. It's yours, and not to be used by third parties. said by MisterMarcus :That does not preclude driving on that road. It does if it has a no trespassing sign around the property (doesn't even need to be posted near the road even). No trespassing means -- stay off the property. And like all road signs, the excuse "I didn't see it!" doesn't apply (try telling a cop that when you drive 60mph in a 30mph zone!). So when the postal carrier brings you your mail every day, and UPS/FedEx/DHL brings you packages, they're breaking the law? And don't give me the "permission" argument, because a postal carrier can bring you anything, even that which you did not implicitly give them permission to deliver.
The way I see it, a TRULY private road is fronted by a locked gate. That's a bonafide sign to anyone that you are not go beyond that point. | |
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| Uh.... Sorry, but there is no expectation of privacy when you're in a public place. A photographer with a camera has just as much right to be there as you do, and if they take a picture and you're in it, it doesn't mean you have veto power over their image. Sorry.
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| Re: . said by Dream Killer :Photographers should be allowed to capture what they want in public space - people and all. I'm not talking about taking pictures in private spaces like inside homes and hotel rooms. PS: I have never made any money from my photos. I do it as a hobby. It's irrelevant whether your being paid or not, and just because it's in a public space does not make it right. Would you condone people having their conversations recorded at public establishments and their transcripts posted on the web?
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| Re: . Juding from your insane rambling, I'd bet that you've had an embarassing picture published on the internet.
You're trying to limit the rights of others in order to satisfy what you feel is your right. What about someone elses right to take a photograph of a building? Or a landscape? Or their right to make an audio recording of themselves while you're audible on the tape because you're speaking obnoxiously on your cellphone nearby.
If your insane idea of the law was reality, you would be complaining that *so and so* building was roped off and no one could go by it because someone was taking a picture of it. Or complaining about photographers bothering you for releases because the back of your head is in the lower right corner of their picture of *landmark*.
All of this because you feel that when in public no one should be able to look at or listen to you because you'll embarass yourself. | |
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| said by S_engineer :said by Dream Killer :Photographers should be allowed to capture what they want in public space - people and all. I'm not talking about taking pictures in private spaces like inside homes and hotel rooms. PS: I have never made any money from my photos. I do it as a hobby. It's irrelevant whether your being paid or not, and just because it's in a public space does not make it right. Would you condone people having their conversations recorded at public establishments and their transcripts posted on the web? Thats what your doing McFly! So if you're on vacation and you're at the beach and you take a snapshot of your family and some person who may be in the shot inadvertantly comes up to you and says to give him the camera because you have no right to take a picture of him, you're just handing over your camera right? I thought not. | |
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| Re: . And yet NOBODY answered "Would you condone people having their conversations recorded at public establishments and their transcripts posted on the web?". Its the perfect analogy for what photographers are doing.
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| Photographers, including armature and professionals, are allowed to capture what they want in public places and freely post to publicize their own work. The images that photographers capture is the rightful property of the photographer to do with as he/she chooses. Period! | |
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| using a major city as an example(most common places on streetview) if you are on a sidewalk/on the bus/subway in Manhattan, you should expect zero right to privacy. there are likely 100s of times in an afternoon where you are photographed in some fashion in a city. walking past an ATM, or heck going past the MTV or WABC studios in Times Square, if either one is on the air atm you could be pictured and your image beamed around the world.
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| i sometimes wonder if some people go into the supermarket security office and ask for the time they where shopping to be erased. or walk past a bank ATM and then protest they are now on file with its camera simply by walking past.
i have a suggestion, dont goto London because the police have cameras on multiple corners.
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| Microsoft is collecting a lot of surfing information. Windows Live OneCare complains endlessly if you turn off the Phishing Filter. With it on sites you visit are checked with Microsoft. So while there might not be a local copy of every site you visited there is on Microsoft's servers. They don't say they aren't recording all the information, only that "Information received will not be used to personally identify you." There is a big difference between "will not" and "can not". | |
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| good one I have to laugh when I read how MS wants to 'fix the Internet' with IE8. they have such a twisted view; much like one who claims 'its not me who is crazy, its everyone in the entire world!'. Look, I know there's security problems and un-patched servers online. I know viruses and worms, and all kinds of unwanted malware exist. The thing is, when a large large majority of users on the Internet are using some form of Windows and because IE is basically built into Windows, it's MS who has created this problem that they're trying to address.
Funny how they say things like 'finally Windows Live Mail will work correctly- just install our browser', and especially humorous now is this attack on Google (remember MS is in competition with Google these days). So yes, let's all upgrade to IE8, the browser that compliments Vista in this dangerous Internet world that MS had no part in creating.
I'm waiting for Google to produce a browser actually- maybe something Firefox inspired. I use IE, version 6, as my browser, and it's just amazing that every Patch Tuesday there's another fix or two or three for it. I remember when IE4 came out, which was quickly followed by 5 and then soon after was 6. Now 7 is out and there's a lot of mixed reviews... the release of 8 seems a little rushed to me.
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| Re: good one said by kba4 :I'm waiting for Google to produce a browser actually- maybe something Firefox inspired. What's wrong with Firefox's Firefox inspired browser? Slapping a G- in front of something doesn't automatically make it better. | |
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| said by kba4 :I'm waiting for Google to produce a browser actually- maybe something Firefox inspired. I use IE, version 6, as my browser, and it's just amazing that every Patch Tuesday there's another fix or two or three for it. I remember when IE4 came out, which was quickly followed by 5 and then soon after was 6. Now 7 is out and there's a lot of mixed reviews... the release of 8 seems a little rushed to me. Mozilla is basically propped up by Google, which is the source of most of its funding (thanks to the Google search bar in every copy of Firefox, though it's only a default and can be switched) | |
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| Funny thing about this post- Google just announced they're making a web browser... and they stated that Firefox was one of their inspirations (though it seems to take a lot from Safari as well, even WebKit  ) | |
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| MS and privacy in the same sentence? Already have customizegoogle for firefox.
Guess there's also a version for IE nowadays too... (»www.cg4ie.com/) sorry MS, YOU are behind on this front 
Google's pretty much correct with that statement except for the fact they they've managed to gather all of these pictures, and organize them, then make it super easy for anybody with google earth to actually see them.
I'd say that this is much different from "anybody" simply posting pictures to some mundane site where maybe their friends will come across it once and then the poster may or may not DELETE them after a time...
As for MS having privacy "tools" ...that's a new one on me... I thought they were all about the ubiquitous back door, the ever present open hole in the operating system, and the inability to find hidden files/folders that you sometimes have to find a registry key first in order to find the hidden folder (Outlook temp folder anyone?) which is NOT viewable within windows explorer.
(one link explaining this: »www.groovypost.com/howto/microso···-folder/)
Fix those things, Microsoft, and stop "hiding" things from people, and then MAYBE people would put some stock in such statements. | |
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| Re: MS and privacy in the same sentence? said by amungus :As for MS having privacy "tools" ...that's a new one on me... I thought they were all about the ubiquitous back door, the ever present open hole in the operating system, and the inability to find hidden files/folders that you sometimes have to find a registry key first in order to find the hidden folder (Outlook temp folder anyone?) which is NOT viewable within windows explorer. (one link explaining this: » www.groovypost.com/howto/microso···-folder/) You can add Windows Genuine Advantage Notification to
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XP users in the guise of a critical security update:
»Windows Genuine Advantage Notification (KB905474)
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odreian615
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| Re: This what I learned from the Internet no that is what you learn on here. If Google's name is attached to it what ever it is must be sent from God. MSFT it must be a POS and must be killed off.
The same with the search Engine that was released by some of the first Google employees. Karl never put it as a story because it was not in favor of his wonderful Google. | |
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Laguna Hills, CA | Anti-trust? It's no question that Microsoft is looking to compete with Google in the ad space and IE 8 is a tool that fits nicely in those competitive plans. I wonder if IE 8 will get the attention of regulators. | |
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| Microsoft has done nothing Microsoft has done nothing with this, except, add "pr0n surfing mode" to their browser. It's something that Safari has had for years, and I doubt it's used for anything but that.
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| Re: Envy much? Of course Microsoft is hugely jealous of Google... why do you think they keep pouring their profits down the money pit that is the Microsoft Internet Services division, and then tried to buy Yahoo!? (Hm, Yahoo!'s ! and the ? have formed an interrobang) | |
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| Re: Envy much? and that is why AOL/TW and Yahoo are in talks and MSFT is right in those talks as well. Keep in mind TW would be owning stock in the new company also to say what happens. which means Google could be easily tossed to the curb for AOL's ads or even replaced with MSN's | |
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| MS is bitter for two reasons, Google is owning them hard in search/online ads and google also provides a ton of money to the largest threat to IE domination, the Mozilla Foundation.
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| Wrong issue to go after them with People like street view and no one is going to call that a security risk unless they can make money in court over it. They should have hit them on the heath care side. How google doesn't follow hippa and has no intention of doing so. The fact that gmail by default didn't do https.
And if that privacy mode in ie8 doesn't bypass index.dat, then microsoft is just lying about the privacy part. And really doesn't have a leg to stand on. | |
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| Re: Wrong issue to go after them with With respect to the medical information, I will not, willingly, to either google or ms on me, my family, or my cat. It is none of their business and I have no faith that they could keep anything confidential, if there was money to be made. Lest someone decide to deride my statement because my medical history is available on line from my insurance company, etc. Let me say that I have no choice about that, but I, hopefully, have a choice about putting something on google or ms. | |
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Schererville, IN | Re: Wrong issue to go after them with If they followed hipaa, it wouldn't be a problem. A service not following hipaa is basically admitting they have no security and aren't going to handle your info responsibly. | |
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| Contrary to popular belief Actually they are 10 years ahead in online privacy. That is if you look at the current laws that are on the board to strip online privacy and monitor internet communications.
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| Imagine that... someone goes out in public and chances to be in a place where some pictures are being taken. So? Maybe said someone should just stayed closed up in their residence if they're that afraid of being "caught".
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Austin, TX | Re: Imagine that... True if the photographer is on public property, but take one step on to private property and there is a whole other issue, which I believe the private road is part of. | |
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| Thank you Microsoft!! Internet Explorer 8 has a privacy mode that has the potential to keep even Google from collecting information to use in ad targeting. The main beef I have with Google is it's insistent need to data track. My surfing habits are my own, and despite target advertizing, the search engines still get the ads wrong anyway. So sick of these random key worded GoooooogleAds, that I block them, as it's an eyesore to read the titles as it is.
We need more privacy online, not less.
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| Re: Thank you Microsoft!! said by ChrisXP :The main beef I have with Google is it's insistent need to data track. My surfing habits are my own, and despite target advertizing, the search engines still get the ads wrong anyway. So sick of these random key worded GoooooogleAds, that I block them, as it's an eyesore to read the titles as it is. We need more privacy online, not less. Definitely agreed. Personally I would love to see laws enacted (and enforced) for personal data such as surfing habits to be regularly purged. Will it happen? Nope.
As for Microsoft and Google going at it, well what do you expect out of two greedy corporations? Google may have better PR but they are both dirty greedy bastards that ultimately don't give a damn about you or me. And if you think otherwise, maybe its time to get rid of the rose tints. | |
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| Google will remove the street view Besides the fact the Google driver should stay on public roads, if you don't like the photo, you can have it removed.
The street view of my home showed my license tag, my kids riding their bikes in the front driveway and my garage door wide open. It took a few weeks, but now it is not there.
For the real estate market, I find out pretty good that I can go look at the front of the home or property before driving over to take a better look. Or if I am going somewhere I have never been before, I know what building or markers to look for. | |
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i have a suggestion, dont go to ENTER CITY HERE because the police have cameras on multiple corners.
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2 edits | IE 8 MS fix with IE8
A) you go where we want
B) you do what we want
AND YOU PAY FOR IT CONSTANTLY.
YES that is da way.
IE8 embeded will not allow you to get torrents or other files to p2p, nor any music or rars and zips not approved and paid for.
You will obey
Or suck eggs
oh and fer picture people
agreed you take a picture of something and YOU do not own it you are in fact giving your view like a painter of things, remember that.
Its a twisted ideal of the riaa/mpaa you have your butt round.
AND dont get all copyright panty wiped on us, look at pron sites how to get your images out, put crappy thumbs and make em pay for hte better resolutions OR better yet get good and have a book made and show a few images from it.
Palladiumbooks does this with its art work and isn't whining.
( note i have almost 75% of there actual books and also a lot of pdfs like back ups i got off demonoid, and when they were hurting do too an embezzelment i bought a few more books ) | |
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| YES.... And MS is decades behind on having a good search engine that would allow them to collect our private info. Google does not need to do anything that MS does simply because MS has become an epic failure with the launch of vista. And windows 7 does not look to be any improvement(unless of course you love to play games with your hands in front of the monitor for long periods of time). Sorry at least i know where google's stands on issues.
WOW your non released IE may have a privacy setting. Might have mattered if it came with VISTA... Pretty much every IE user uses it because it is what comes installed and are very unlikely to give a crap about a new IE when anyone with half a brain uses Mozilla these days... | |
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|  Microsoft promoting privacy is an oxymoron
Presumably at the request of the NSA, Microsoft has added hidden log files to both Windows and Internet Explorer. Microsoft provided "high" encryption has back doors for the same government agencies to eavesdrop on our enemies. Apparently our enemies include the European Union and others that the person in the street would have mistakenly thought as our friends..... | |
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Microsoft Says Google Is Years Behind on Privacy
Envy much?
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