said by baineschile :

Good for moblie data, bad for anybody who gets tv from any sort of satellite reciever, even at the headend (aka time warner, dish, uverse, fios, comcast, direct tv)

said by baineschile :

Good for moblie data, bad for anybody who gets tv from any sort of satellite reciever, even at the headend (aka time warner, dish, uverse, fios, comcast, direct tv)

said by bjbrock :

Broadband needs to be nationalized. Corporate greed is the problem. Same as it is with the financial sector.

said by Dogfather :

Nor should there be. The are bigger problems to work on in Washington than planting Google and Microsoft yet another money tree.

said by XBL2009 :

United States Broadband Goals:

1. 200mbps...nothing less...reserved for internet use only

2. Fiber for every home, building and outhouse by 2015 mandated by We The People.

3. Ability to buy monthly capacity, 1000, 2000, 3000 etc gigabytes at a low price $25, $50, $75, $100, etc.

Ask not how much your Telecom monopoly squeezes out of people but how end users are actually served by it.

said by Tzale :

Are you joking me? The Government is already pretty much bankrupt and this economy is in the shitter.. Good luck getting the Government to do that! The answer lies within the private sector. More Government intrusion into our lives is not a good thing. Do you REALLY want the Government to know what websites you visit?

-Tzale

said by ninjatutle :

Damm hippies. So these corps have unlimited funding do they?

said by XBL2009 :

No but they do have billions in profit that they aren't reinvesting into their networks to keep pace with the rest of the world.

said by fiberguy :

Really? .. and you know this how exactly again? Are you basing it on what you see and read here? Are you basing it on your own experience? ... is it because you don't have a fiber line plugged into your head with unlimited data and insane speeds that you know this? or do you have anything factual to base it on?

The truth is while they may be making 'billions' they also have bills to pay AND they are in fact paying out money and investing in their networks.

You, like so many, also love to compare the United States to the "rest of the world".. what EXACTLY is the REST OF THE WORLD? And, how exactly does the rest of the world compare to us? Who is paying for this internet in the rest of the world. How much is private and how much is tax money? What's the TRUE cost of this fabulous internet?

I'll take what we have now which is reasonably priced for decent speeds in major areas of the U.S. and not sell myself or my country out in debt to build some major internet so that people can download a movie quicker or P2P people can clog the pipes with endless crap, most of it pirated.

You really think you have the answers, but your statement is incorrect. ...Got priorities?

said by fiberguy :

Toll a lot do you?

1) Go move to japan. Stop your 'grass is greener' crap and stop comparing just the speeds of Japan to ours. Why don't you take THE ENTIRE PICTURE into consideration when you talk about speeds. There is FAR more to getting to that speed than you are looking at. I can put a Mercedes engine into a Honda Accord and get some great speed, but I still have a crappy accord to sit in. Good luck with Japan.

2) If you can't see the results, then you're blind. Speeds have been increasing all the time. MN already has a 50/5 tier on coax. We've gone from Docsis 1.0 to 1.1, to 2.0 in some areas, and now 3.0 is rolling out. You think it costs in the thousands to roll out the new technology? Try billions. You think they didn't just invest a crap load of money into all the systems in the bay area they purchased from AT&T, Viacom, MediaOne, and other systems to bring them up to date? You think that is chump change? You don't think that's "results".. NO, you measure results by what YOU have in your living room on your computer. Way to go! There is a term for this, and it's called self-serving greed. (Yea, greed is a two way street) Sorry you can't push and pull all that P2P crap you probably are crying for.

You can take your name calling and shove it where the good lord split you too. If you're going to call me a shill, be prepared to take it in return. But, in YOUR mind, because MY opinion doesn't meet your self centered views, then I must be a shill. How about maybe I'm a shill for my own opinions, jerk!

As for your lower customer satisfaction, if you care to have a long winded discussion about ratings, polls, and surveys, I'd be happy to. You REALLY think that asking 500 people 5 questions is a good enough sample? You don't think people are emotional and take other things into consideration in ANY survey? You think that they are thinking, as they are paying for a cable or phone bill that they think of ANY price right now, in a sucking economy, is evil and bad? This is just the tip of the iceberg. If you want to, I'll dance you around into a hole.

If you're going to come here spewing what you do, you're just as much a SHILL as you accuse me of.

I don't play by those BBR rules.. I don't need to hide behind cute words like SHILL, or Atroturfer like those with no real argument in return. Infact, you want innovation? Maybe those that scrip this site should automatically flag those posts that use those kinda terms to weed out idiots like you, who here get a free pass on name calling so long as they DO call people SHILLS, instead of those that come here with substance to talk about.

Piss off!

said by XBL2009 :

No but they do have billions in profit that they aren't reinvesting into their networks to keep pace with the rest of the world.

said by TScheisskopf :

Oh, don't get too worked up by that stuff. That is what every free-markets libertarian trots out whenever someone suggest anything that would slap huge corporations into line, just a little bit. I mean, after all, if there is one thing we have learned of late it is that big, rich corporations are our bestest friends and only have our best interests at heart, right?

Hang out on thread this a little bit. No doubt a Mark Levin/Michael Savage bot will be along to type "Socialism! Communism!" a lot of times. It's amazingly predictable.

said by TScheisskopf :

Hell, we should be getting something for all the money we pay in for taxes. Right now, all we are getting is reports of AIG holding $450000 "retreats" for executives.

Using some of that money to create a better telecomm infrastructure and more jobs seems like a fairly smart way to spend it.

Trust me when I tell you: I could write 12 volumes about the lack of free lunches.

said by ninjatutle :

Are you saying an Obama $3 million overhead projector is not worthwhile?

said by TScheisskopf :

Hang out on thread this a little bit. No doubt a Mark Levin/Michael Savage bot will be along to type "Socialism! Communism!" a lot of times. It's amazingly predictable.

said by patcat88 :

Facism and Hitler economic policy failed. US broadband policy failed.

There, Goodwin's Law just got added.

said by Tzale :
The answer lies within the private sector. More Government intrusion into our lives is not a good thing.

said by jaminus :

I completely understand why so many, like Funchords, yearn for a publicly owned last-mile fiber infrastructure to free us from our current corporate overlords.

said by Tzale :

Are you joking me? The Government is already pretty much bankrupt and this economy is in the shitter.. Good luck getting the Government to do that! The answer lies within the private sector. More Government intrusion into our lives is not a good thing.

said by Tzale :

Are you joking me? The Government is already pretty much bankrupt and this economy is in the shitter.. Good luck getting the Government to do that! The answer lies within the private sector. More Government intrusion into our lives is not a good thing. Do you REALLY want the Government to know what websites you visit?

-Tzale

said by Sammer :

Make no mistake about it, the push for white space devices is MicroGoogle's application for corporate welfare. There is so much corporate welfare already that there barely is a private sector in this country anymore.

said by XBL2009 :

United States Broadband Goals:

1. 200mbps...nothing less...reserved for internet use only

2. Fiber for every home, building and outhouse by 2015 mandated by We The People.

3. Ability to buy monthly capacity, 1000, 2000, 3000 etc gigabytes at a low price $25, $50, $75, $100, etc.

Ask not how much your Telecom monopoly squeezes out of people but how end users are actually served by it.

said by XBL2009 :

United States Broadband Goals:

1. 200mbps...nothing less...reserved for internet use only

2. Fiber for every home, building and outhouse by 2015 mandated by We The People.

3. Ability to buy monthly capacity, 1000, 2000, 3000 etc gigabytes at a low price $25, $50, $75, $100, etc.

Ask not how much your Telecom monopoly squeezes out of people but how end users are actually served by it.

said by XBL2009 :

United States Broadband Goals:

1. 200mbps...nothing less...reserved for internet use only

2. Fiber for every home, building and outhouse by 2015 mandated by We The People.

3. Ability to buy monthly capacity, 1000, 2000, 3000 etc gigabytes at a low price $25, $50, $75, $100, etc.

Ask not how much your Telecom monopoly squeezes out of people but how end users are actually served by it.

said by oolisfast :

Now, so these companies could make a quick buck, the heck with what it will do to signals which are already facing dark area issues to which, chances are, they will have to even invest more to retransmit signals in weaker areas.

Leave the white space alone, its there for a reason.

said by jayjay5 :

Our broadband woes are not due to free market capitalism but rather they are due to government granted monopoly's for our 'last mile' communications.
We have very little competition for the last mile! So don't call it a free market when it is not! Learn the difference between corporatism and capitalism. Our communications industry is significantly based on corporatism. My cable and phone services have always been provided by a government-backed corporate monopoly. I sympathize with the people here who are angry at our corporate overlords, but they forget this important fact and then blame capitalism when we just don't have it.