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| Bit torrent is here to stay For better or worse, it's not going away any time soon so instead if trying to litigate and prosecute it out of business, all of that is having the unintended opposite effect of giving it more attention to people who might not have otherwise thought to "sample the buffet"...
I dont presume to have the answer but trying to squash it out of existance certainly doesnt seem to be doing very well.... | |
|  | MyDogHsFleas
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| Re: Bit torrent is here to stay The ISPs don't like BitTorrent because it breaks their business model of shared bandwidth. It makes everyone an always-uploading server. They don't care, really, that copyrighted material is being shared.
The content owners and re-distributors, on the other hand, care a lot about copyrighted material, whether it's shared via BitTorrent or straight downloaded from YouTube or wherever. But they don't like BitTorrent because, by any measure, the vast amount of traffic sent using BitTorrent is copyrighted material.
Corporations also don't like BitTorrent because it's a security risk. One mis-click and confidential stuff on my work laptop is suddenly pushed out to the world. (The company I work for prohibits BitTorrent for exactly this reason.)
The people who like BitTorrent are 98% those who want to receive and distribute copyrighted material, and 2% people who use BitTorrent to distribute, legitimately, their own material, or freely-copiable FOSS material.
The intersection of people who think BitTorrent is good, and people who use it for legitimate purposes, is very small. Not zero... but very small.
This is a problem. I don't know what the solution is, but it's a problem. Because BitTorrent is great technology. It's like a new kind of node in the network.. not a client, not a server, but something else. And it's easy to set up, it works great, and it is effective at what it does. It kind of turns the Internet into a crude data grid. | |
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| Re: Bit torrent is here to stay said by MyDogHsFleas  :The people who like BitTorrent are 98% those who want to receive and distribute copyrighted material, and 2% people who use BitTorrent to distribute, legitimately, their own material, or freely-copiable FOSS material. And 96% of all stats are made up.  | |
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antarctica | Re: Bit torrent is here to stay 101% of all statistics are inaccurate.  | |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
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1 edit | hmm
you cant misclick and share a file over BT its not like other p2p stuff
you have to make a tracker and then UPLOAD that tracker to some one else | |
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fonzbear2000
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| Re: Bit torrent is here to stay said by elios :hmm you cant misclick and share a file over BT its not like other p2p stuff you have to make a tracker and then UPLOAD that tracker to some one else Not if you use Limewire and turn BT sharing off 
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ztmike
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| Prices I'm not going to beat around the bush..Movies,music, and ect. are just to damn high of a price to go out and buy.
I can't buy online either and really don't care for the online buying market, plus most of it is full of DRM.
I can go buy a case full of blank cd-rs for the price of 1 music cd.
If the RIAA would wake the hell up and drop prices I myself might go back to the store.
As for the movies..Hollywood has been pumping out nothing but shit lately so I download those to, because its waste spending $20+ on 1 single movie when its shit.
Que the ZoMG Bittorrent is ILLEGAL I HOPE YOU GET SUED!!11
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LiamJunket
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| Re: Prices said by ztmike :I can't buy online either Why? Too young and no credit card? Or no money from parents?
said by ztmike :As for the movies..Hollywood has been pumping out nothing but shit lately so I download those to(sic) If they are so bad, why bother stealing them?
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| Re: Prices Probably because artists bundle 1-2 good songs, with 10 others that are utter crap, and not worth paying for. I've bought maybe 1-2 Cd's in years.
The rest, I purchase as single downloads - and when not available... I simply download it.
But hey, I live in Canada, and downhere the RIAA presumes all CD-R's are used for Piracy, so I get to pay a Piracy tax. Might as well pirate, since I'm paying for it anyways. | |
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1 edit | said by LiamJunket :said by ztmike :I can't buy online either Why? Too young and no credit card? Or no money from parents? said by ztmike :As for the movies..Hollywood has been pumping out nothing but shit lately so I download those to(sic) If they are so bad, why bother stealing them? 1.) My credit is shot=No CC and don't have a bank yet for debit, will soon though. My parents don't give me money, I work for my shit.
2.) Flopping down $20+ for a crap movie=NO, getting it for free=Yes.
That 20 bucks can go towards gas or smokes or what not. I might go to the theater if there's actually a movie that's worth seeing. But not in awhile has there been one.
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Neyland85
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North Augusta, SC | Re: Prices Why do you feel your entitled to the movie/music? Simply because you want it? | |
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Middlesboro, KY | Re: Prices Isn't almost everything viewed as a right or entitlement these days? | |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
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| Re: Prices said by Markus :Isn't almost everything viewed as a right or entitlement these days? Well said. it would be a shame if the thieves would actually have to work for what they want like the previous thousand generations!
The only good thing to come with this attitude is the knowledge that these individuals will have to pick up the national deb, so they will be paying for something! This is something I don't have to worry about because I teach my kids to work, live within their means, and save for what they want. | |
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| Re: Prices said by S_engineer :This is something I don't have to worry about because I teach my kids to work, live within their means, and save for what they want. You are naive if you believe your children will actually live by this rule of thumb. When their best friends at school have everything they don't, your children will compensate. Whether you're ignorant to that fact or not.
Today's society doesn't have room for people to wait and save their money, nor for people to live within their means. Hence the reason personal debt is at such an all time high across North America.
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1 edit | I guess pre-paid cards, Pre-paid American Express, Visa, Master Card, and Secured credit cards are a bad thing why?
There is never an excuse for being unable to access online resources.
I think you'd be taken more serious if you didn't exaggerate so much. Movies don't cost $20.. They're usually about $7 to $9 and then there are the matinee prices.
Also, *I* personally can't stand behind anyone that votes by stealing. If the movie is "crap".. then don't go.. getting it for free=yes is .. I'll spare myself another moderation warning.
But, to summarize this... your smokes, which kill you and cost the rest of us a butt load of money so you can smoke, is the way to spend your money.. meanwhile, you'll simply TAKE what you want because, without even seeing it, that crap movie is ok to just "take"... and again, so you can smoke.
No wonder why your credit is crap.. you make some pretty questionable decisions.
In the end, you truly are ... troubled. I'll leave it there.
At LEAST try to argue like everyone else.. at LEAST come out and say that the laws are abused and you really do have the right to share like the others do. Don't come right out and say you're ok with stealing. | |
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| Re: Prices quote:
your smokes, which kill you and cost the rest of us a butt load of money so you can smoke,
The amusing/ironic/counterintuitive thing is that actually smokers cost our country less because they die quicker and don't draw their social security, and don't have such long drawn-out hospital costs before death (lung cancer/heart disease/emphysema kills you pretty quick, and once you're declared terminal, you just go to the hospice or home to die, not really that expensive compared to everything else). | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Re: Prices Uhhh, health care costs for smokers cost us considerably. Although health care costs for fat people cost us more. But just because there are more fat people than smokers. One treatment of lung cancer > lifetime of social security checks.. | |
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| Re: Prices said by Ahrenl :One treatment of lung cancer > lifetime of social security checks.. ... who often also can start drawing SSI long before retirement for a life long career of disabilities. | |
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| You're kidding, right? 
Cute, however.
I'd have to disagree with you. There are many smokers that are uninsured for various reasons. Uninsured people are usually not seen for their health problems until they reach a stage III or IV. Those people are often only getting treatment in emergency rooms (which is where the "no one is to be turned away" comes to play) where it costs at least 10 times more to treat them than it would if they were to 1) simply stop 2) get early treatments which cost pennies on the dollar compared to the ER treatment.
But, your take on the path to death of these smokers isn't really accurate. The numbers on how much it cost to treat a smoker is out there, and too, disagrees with you. | |
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join:2001-12-22
Paradise, PA
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| I have to agree with ya Fiber, on everything except the "at least try to argue like everyone else" comment. I actually commend the guy...as twisted as the rest of his thought process may be....for his honesty. Kind of refreshing to see someone speak bluntly and not try to cover up their stealing with a thinly veiled "I loooove my legal linux distros and thats all I use bit torrent for" shenanigans. | |
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caddyroger
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| Re: Prices said by Omega :said by caddyroger :Why work when you can steal. you can steal smokes, gas, food sneak in theaters. Stealing from the internet is the same Please tell me you don't consider sneaking food into a movie theatre stealing.... You know what's theft? $5 popcorn. I take my 2 grand boys to the movies every once in a while. A medium popcorn soft drink and a candy bar them and a large popcorn and a large soft drink cost around $20 bucks plus the cost of the tickets. For me there no way I could get all that inside except for the candy.
The only reason it's $5.00 every one keeps buying it and guilty as charged on that.
No i don't consider sneaking food into a movie stealing.
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| Re: Prices Haha at my movie theater I just walk in with food/drink from the food court. I have yet to have anything said to me. If they give me shit about it, I'll just return my movie ticket.
Also, there is no sign saying external food/drink prohibited, so in my opinion, they can't do anything anyway. | |
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Pirate515
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said by BAF :Haha at my movie theater I just walk in with food/drink from the food court. I have yet to have anything said to me. If they give me shit about it, I'll just return my movie ticket. Also, there is no sign saying external food/drink prohibited, so in my opinion, they can't do anything anyway. Lucky you. In the movie theater by me where I go to most of the time, they do prohibit outside food/drinks, and what's worse than that is that they claim that it's for "security" reasons. Of course, those who go to that movie theater often know it too well that the real reason is because they want to charge you $3 - 5 for drinks that can be purchased for $1 - $1.50 in a grocery store across the street. And to top that, if someone tries to come in with a bag, they search that too, although they stay away from searching coats/jackets and purses. So actually, in the winter time it's pretty easy for me to "smuggle in" a bottle of soda and/or some candy. Summer time is a different story though.
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join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
| Re: Prices said by Pirate515 :Lucky you. In the movie theater by me where I go to most of the time, they do prohibit outside food/drinks, and what's worse than that is that they claim that it's for "security" reasons. Of course, those who go to that movie theater often know it too well that the real reason is because they want to charge you $3 - 5 for drinks that can be purchased for $1 - $1.50 in a grocery store across the street. And to top that, if someone tries to come in with a bag, they search that too, although they stay away from searching coats/jackets and purses. So actually, in the winter time it's pretty easy for me to "smuggle in" a bottle of soda and/or some candy. Summer time is a different story though. What you don't realize is that the Movie theaters pass back 98-100% of ticket revenue to the Movie Distributer as required by their contract. Theaters no longer buy movies and show them to make money off tickets. The Distribution companys provide the movie reels/Digital discs/downloads (some of the larger theaters are distributed to through a secure WAN download network) at no/minimal cost and now require that they pass back all ticket revenue and as a result they can only make money on the extras. Food, drink and candy are the only money they make.
So yea, when you sneak in food, drink and candy without the theaters permission you are directly taking revenue from the theater and only giving money to the Movie company. Hurt your local business and help Hollywood. Good old American tradition. | |
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| said by ztmike :1.) My credit is shot=No CC and don't have a bank yet for debit, will soon though. My parents don't give me money, I work for my shit. 2.) Flopping down $20+ for a crap movie=NO, getting it for free=Yes. That 20 bucks can go towards gas or smokes or what not. I might go to the theater if there's actually a movie that's worth seeing. But not in awhile has there been one. As long as this is the face of the BT crowd, the tool will never have legitimacy. | |
| | | | rahvin112
join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
| Personally I hope you lose your job as a result of someone stealing at the business you work at. Harsh I guess, but I'm tempted to write an email suggesting that the RIAA and MPAA sue you based on your admission on this site. It would be trivial for them to extract a pound of flesh.
Then not only will your credit be bad but you will owe the *AA's $100k each, then you will be forced to really man up and actually pay for what you used. Regardless of your statements on quality, your consumption of the merchandise in question shows your hypocrisy, if you really did think everything sucked you wouldn't be stealing it. If you were a real man and you couldn't afford it you wouldn't steal it, you would wait until it was on TV.
You aren't entitled to the work of others. If you don't like their price, don't consume it. But of course I have morals and you apparently don't. | |
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nekkidtruth
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London, ON
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| Re: Prices said by rahvin112 :Personally I hope you lose your job as a result of someone stealing at the business you work at. Harsh I guess, but I'm tempted to write an email suggesting that the RIAA and MPAA sue you based on your admission on this site. It would be trivial for them to extract a pound of flesh. Then not only will your credit be bad but you will owe the *AA's $100k each, then you will be forced to really man up and actually pay for what you used. Regardless of your statements on quality, your consumption of the merchandise in question shows your hypocrisy, if you really did think everything sucked you wouldn't be stealing it. If you were a real man and you couldn't afford it you wouldn't steal it, you would wait until it was on TV. You aren't entitled to the work of others. If you don't like their price, don't consume it. But of course I have morals and you apparently don't. Please, for the sake of us all. Get over yourself.
You would be hard pressed to find anyone on this site or anywhere for that matter who is 100% honest in every single thing they do in life, and I mean down to finding a single penny on the sidewalk and turning it in to the police.
No one is perfect. Including you.
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RainWind
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1 edit | A job, you should get one.
Or you could, I dunno, rent movies? $25/mo with netflix and you can rent all the movies you want. They have packages to suit everyone's needs.
You can get both music and movies legally for a fair price. All the music and movies you want only costs $40/mo with a Rhapsody and Netflix subscription. If you can't afford $40 you need to get away from the T.V. and spend that time earning money.
If you're in college there's a free service. So you really have no excuse for pirating movies and music other than you're just too cheap to pay a fair price.
But I must admit, I have a lot of sympathy for your cause. I too would rather spend my money poisoning my lungs and stealing from those big evil corporations while giving my money to a different big evil corporation... Learn to manage money. You're not the only one with a sub 600 FICO. If I can get my music and movies legit so can you. | |
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karlmarx
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| Of course, you are correct. Too young, and no money. Oh, wait, and also raised in a CAPITALIST society. Ergo, "No Money + Greed = Piracy". Why do you act so surprised? I mean, you WANT kids to be greedy, right? Isn't that your basis for society? And you've already proven they have no money. Thus, the LOGICAL conclusion of your society will be piracy. The 'greed' part won't go away. The money part can't be solved. Piracy is by definition, the answer. Reap the rewards of the kind of society you preach.
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dsldude08
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| | NormanS
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| said by ztmike :As for the movies..Hollywood has been pumping out nothing but shit lately so I download those to, because its waste spending $20+ on 1 single movie when its shit. If if isn't worth paying to see, it isn't worth the time to download. I don't use BT on anything belonging to the MPAA/RIAA because they don't produce anything worth watching, or listening to.
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| malocite
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| TV Shows the most downloaded torrents That's very interesting, although strange since a study of mininova's statistics show the top 10 downloaded tv shows of 2007 are all pirated I would hope mininova ultimately went legit, but only after the studios provided content that people want to watch the same way they are enjoying it now.
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Dnepr
join:2001-11-28
Tarpon Springs, FL | Prices prices If I could buy a 1080p movie in good format online for 10$, I'd gladly pay 10$ rather then hassle with playing it from HD...
Alas, they dont offer that stuff and I refuse to pay 300$ for player and 40$ per movie... | |
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ztmike
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| Re: Prices prices said by Dnepr :If I could buy a 1080p movie in good format online for 10$, I'd gladly pay 10$ rather then hassle with playing it from HD... Alas, they dont offer that stuff and I refuse to pay 300$ for player and 40$ per movie... I saw Bluray movies at Walmart for $27 ..where you getting 40 dollars at?
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r81984
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1 edit | Re: Prices prices $27... WHAT?????
Blu-Ray = $27
DVD = $5
Mininova = Free
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Speedy8
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| | | | | lvlorpheus
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1 edit | Just an idea the population of earth if my google was correct is about 7 billion people. If, we only count one tenth of the population of the planet earth thats about 700 million. So, I am wondering what kind of money could be made if the music and movie industry began lobbying to have broadband deployed on a grand scale instead of lobbying to stop the internet could be made. It seems to me that at a $1 or $2 a movie they could bring in 700 million to 1.4 billion per movie " Titanic US box office sales $600,788,188". Now you are saying that does not count rental and foreign markets, nor does it account for the fact that no other move has made close to that, but it also does not account for the fact that this is just 1/10 of the planet, and not very many people will buy the same movie twice for $20 to $40, but will buy the same move again and again for $1 or $2. Just an idea. Lets see if its a flam fest or that kind of makes since post. | |
| | rahvin112
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Sandy, UT | Re: Just an idea It's ignorant to assume that someone making $1 a day is going to spend that on a movie produced in a culture they aren't familiar with and care very little about. | |
| | | lvlorpheus
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Eureka Springs, AR
1 edit | Re: Just an idea said by rahvin112 :It's ignorant to assume that someone making $1 a day is going to spend that on a movie produced in a culture they aren't familiar with and care very little about. For starters I would have to agree with you 100%. Do you think that is who is buying movies at $20 to $40 now, people who make a dollar a day.
I think people under estimate the power of convenience. Just an example, how many people do you know that buy 5, 6, 10 $1 bic lighter a year? People would download the same movie God knows how many times in a lifetime for a $. People would pay the dollar or 2 again just to keep from having to fumble through 500 or a 1000 disks. I'll bet you there are well over 20 people who frequent this sight who never bought titanic for $20 or at all. I'll also bet you there are 20 plus people on this forum who never bought titanic, but would buy it 2, 3, probable more times in their lifetime for a dollar or 2. It just seems you would make more money in the end selling convenience to people. I just believe the majority of Americans, Europeans, Asians, and ever other developing nation would spend more if the price was right and convenient. I really don't think the movie and music companies have ever targeted your suggested demographic, but I could be wrong. | |
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Transmaster
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Cheyenne, WY | English TV is all I download I follow a couple English TV shows
The Sky At Night, and Time Team
and some of the individual documentary
shows.
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| dantc
join:2007-07-02
San Francisco, CA | Clever Mininova CEO is clever Mininova exerts a very tiny effort in controlling so-called illegal downloads; that company and its business plan would be worthless without that very same content. Nice to see their CEO knows how to say the right things, though. | |
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ape
join:2002-05-10
Chicago, IL
| ````` I would never pay for a movie because I can live without it and at some point in the future it will be free on cable or local channel but since it’s free to download now why not watch it now.
And those who go to movies would go there anyway. It’s a culture thing. | |
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timetopayup
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| Hopefully they will rot in prison! With any luck the scum that operates Pirate Bay will rot in prison if they don't meet an untimely fate sooner. They certainly deserve to pay for their crimes and their foolish beliefs that they are above the law. Now is the time to take these fools down for good. | |
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Woody79_00
join:2004-07-08
| It can't be stopped I don't download copyrighted material, but the technologies used to share this material have many obvious advantages. when push comes to shove and it comes down to Suppressing Technology and Growth vs Protecting a Copyright, you "Always" allow technology to advance in spite of any darn Copyright
it can't be stopped, it never will be, no matter how many filters, restrictions, what not you put in place, these guys will find ways around it. Malware authors, hackers, and what not today are capable of Software Engineers. the author of Rootkit Unhooker works for Microsoft now is a example.
You will "NEVER" stop this ever, Windows vista was fully cracked with a BIOS hack weeks before it went Gold, SP1 has also allready been hacked with a new BIOS hack before SP1 has even been released mainstream. Ask Microsoft, they probably do more to stop piracy than anyone and even they can't stop it and they got more money to spend to prevent it than anyone
The days of becoming a music artist or movie star and making billions of dollars are coming to an end...they have become "obsolete" so to speak and will just simply have to take a paycut like everyone else. In the past 100 years they have walked around America like modern day "Royalty". Now Technology is relegating them back to the medieval social position of the Jester.
sorry about their luck, but i do not one bit feel sorry for the movie Stars, RIAA, MPAA, or any of the other like. They have done this to themselves with Draconian business practices. Raising the prices of CD's to unbelievable rates all in the name of greed and making more money.
As crazy as it sounds, The Piratebay will live on. If those guys go to prison, some other joe will pick the slack and take their place, it will never stop. it will just continue, but the people who run the Pirate Bay will get out of it, They are breaking "no laws" of their country. There not U.S citizens, U.S law don't apply to them, so they will get out of it again. Then they will simply move to someplace in Asia such as korea where it is ok to rip off Satelite Tv and many other things, Korea isn't gonna change their laws anytime soon, if ever
like i said, it will never stop, they are fighting a losing battle. they should negotiate with these people. If they don't, the RIAA and such will be out of business soon, you can't sue the whole world.
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zachary1
you talkin' to me?
join:2004-03-07
right here | Re: It can't be stopped Only a unified world government could hope to curb anything like this... ? | |
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Woody79_00
join:2004-07-08
| Re: It can't be stopped yup
and a unified world government will never happen because there is only "one thing" mankind has been able to agree upon in last 6000 years...and that is "man will continue to agree to disagree"
so pretty much, that isn't gonna happen | |
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Millenniumle
join:2007-11-11
Fredonia, NY
| ... If there were a good chance of getting caught I think the numbers would shrink. The penalties are already stiff enough that a high risk of getting caught would be enough to ward off most.
Of course, that begs the question of whether a system could be made where the risk of getting caught is high. | |
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