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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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1 edit | treo I sure hope the mobile browsing in 2013 isn't on a treo 650 pictured above.
But I see it happening more and more all around me. RSS readers such as viigo are a very popular news outlet for me and others too.
Being on the Edge network I am waiting for lower latency and a better browser such as mobile safari. Opera is nice but not quite the same as mobile safari. I may also need a bigger screen too. We shall see how this fares with the Blackberry 9000 models. | |
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY
| not likely to happen "technology will improve to the point where browsing on your cell phone isn’t significantly different from browsing on your PC but so far we’re a large step away from realizing that experience"
technology may improve but with cellular companies locking down and restricting content it will never be anything like the internet as we know it today. net neutrality. they are also going to nickle and dime you to death just like they do now with regular phone service. 10 cents per search? you can only search on yahoo because Yahoo is partnered with Verizon and is the Verizon exclusive browser...... that is the future unless they pass laws to keep it open. | |
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Luker3
join:2004-10-09
Blacksburg, VA | Re: not likely to happen Go buy some stock in Sprint/Clearwire. WiMAX can help push for neutrality on web content, but it needs to get off the ground. | |
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | Re: not likely to happen I would rather short than buy sprint stock | |
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| I have EVDO with VErizon and I use it to stream net radio while driving.... use Google Maps on phone when I get lost (asking strangers for directions is a thing of the past) ... use Google when out and about and need to know something ( argument losing with Google in the palm of your hands is a thing of the past too!).
For me and with my Windows Mobile phone with EVDO, I have the full Internet experience in my pocket! Highly doubt this will change! | |
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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| Re: not likely to happen the browsing with evdo is still slow. even on wifi with 6mbps internet is still slow. not sure if it is browser or wifi latency.
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| benc
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join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL
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| It's Not Worth It At least to me, and probably most people.
Reasons why it's almost worthless:
- 2.5-3.0" Screen (too small). I have to choose between either small text or excessive scrolling.
- Keyboards are too small to use very much. I'm not even a very big guy. I can only imagine it's worse if the user has large hands.
I won't even get E-mail on the thing because of the problems I mentioned. It's just too much of a pain.
Then it costs $45/mo. for a lousy 5GB/mo.
I even tried doing this for a little while, spending a bunch of money on so little. What I did, before I gave up the Internet on my Treo, was the following:
- E-mail, a little bit. I quickly gave this up, since it takes too long to write a message (small buttons). Also, if I check my E-mail and download a new message, I won't have that message later on my PC. I'd have to forward the message to myself.
- Google Maps. This was useful, but I gave this up because I can buy a paper map for $5/map, which is far cheaper than $45/mo.
- HotSync via Mobile Internet. This took too long. Then again, only 1xRTT was available at the time. I'm sure this must be quicker via EV-DO.
Other things I tried:
RDP - Too SLOW; screen too small. Again, EV-DO/HSDPA would be quicker, but the screen is still too small.
SSH - So I could soft-reboot my server while not home. Yippee. Never mind the fact that the server would already have to be in working order to access it via SSH in the first place.
The only thing that might be useful would be a way to initiate a hard reboot. Actually, there is such a thing as remote power cycling, so it could be done. | |
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Mellow
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Salisbury, MD
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| Re: It's Not Worth It Screen to small is what annoys me. I have the Audiovox ppc6700 and use wifi at home to browse, but still the small screen and scrolling is such a pain I just wait to use my computer. For weather and listening to streaming radio its great, anything more in depth is just a pain.
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| | | benc
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| Re: It's Not Worth It said by Mellow  :Screen to small is what annoys me. I have the Audiovox ppc6700 and use wifi at home to browse, but still the small screen and scrolling is such a pain I just wait to use my computer. For weather and listening to streaming radio its great, anything more in depth is just a pain. Hm...Wifi, I nearly forgot about that. I don't have any device that's Wi-Fi capable, and I've lacked interest since around here Wi-Fi is quite uncommon. There's Starbucks, but that's it.
As for the screen and scrolling, I completely agree. Yet, to make the screen bigger, you need a physically bigger device. So, might as well use a laptop in that case.
The only other solutions?
A) Holographic. But this is pure science fiction, at least in the form needed to make it portable.
B) Roll-up or Folding Screens. More likely, but this is still in experimental stage.
Until either of those things happen, I don't see mobile browsing becoming big. I see it as remaining a niche market. | |
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huntml
join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ
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| said by benc :Then it costs $45/mo. for a lousy 5GB/mo. I would agree that $45/mo for 5 GB is too much.
With Sprint you can get uncapped, unlimited internet for $15. To me mobile internet is worth having at that price.
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Google Maps. This was useful, but I gave this up because I can buy a paper map for $5/map, which is far cheaper than $45/mo.
Big difference between a paper map and using a map program on a phone with integrated GPS capability. I used to think Google Maps and Windows Live Search for free were good enough, then I got a new phone with integrated GPS and I'll never go back.
In fact, even though GMaps and WLS are free, I am happy to pay $10/mo for a mapping program (Telenav) because it also comes with online backup and real-time traffic.
I never leave home now without it running and it saves me getting stuck in a jam once a week or so, sometimes more. | |
| | | benc
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join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL | Re: It's Not Worth It Oh...GPS. I can see why some may like that.
So, you can get GPS Navigation for just $25/mo. and no extra hardware?
What sort of phone do you have? | |
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huntml
join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ
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2 edits | Re: It's Not Worth It I have a Moto Q9c, which has integrated GPS. With Sprint you pay $15/mo for all-u-can-eat data and another $9.99/mo for Telenav (repackaged and sold by Sprint as 'Sprint Navigation').
You don't *have* to buy Telenav -- both Google Maps and Windows Live search integrate real-time navigation and mapping into their features.
But Telenav is about the only add-on program that I think worth buying a monthly subscription to with similar freeware apps in the market, because it gives you things (audible-turn-by-turn instructions, real-time traffic scanning with pop-up warnings and reroutes, different routing priorities (shortest, quickest, traffic optimized, etc.) that the free programs don't. | |
| EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Not surprising... I used to fall into the "mobile browsing is too slow, screen size too small, controls too annoying..." category, especially looking at browsers such as the Nintendo DS Browser (I only have the most basic of phones, so I'm not even going to talk about that thing)
But then I saw Apple's mobile Safari (on the iPod Touch), which just works amazingly- still inferior to actual computers, but if cellular networks can get to the point where they're as fast as a local WiFi network (4G should be a major step here) I think that mobile browsing with suitable browsers could take off. | |
| | | robertfl
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join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL | Re: 2013? we will. | |
| newyorkslick
join:2001-12-19
Rosedale, NY | bah I see the Iphone as the first step to achieving this as its web browsing is above and beyond any phone that I've seen thus far.
But make it 3G already for Christ's Sake. | |
| | MrRuckus
join:2004-01-30
Portland, OR
| Re: bah I actually have the tmobile sidekick for this specific reason.
I had the sidekick II and then went to a sidekick III for the edge network speed. Still not 3G but fast enough for browsing when bored or what not. You request a page and it starts loading about 10 seconds later.
The sidekick is a little "kiddy" with its menu's but I overlook this for the simple fact that you can't beat its plan. The sidekick uses a 3rd party for its service which is the company who made the software called Danger. For $19.99/month you get unlimited txt/email/internet. You have to have a phone plan ontop of that but still, for about $60/month I have unlimited internet on my cellphone which I use often. I use about 40-60MB a month just browsing websites.
The only downside to the sidekick is it uses a proxy. They do this because danger wants to request the site and then they manipulate it so it displays the best on the screen. Normally this just means removing the banners and what not which can sometimes be a blessing, but is 1 extra delay into the mix, but it is not censored or restricted in anyway, which is nice.
With the screens getting forever larger (ie, Sidekick LX) the sidekick phones have my money for now. The plan price is what keeps me comoing back. | |
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Skilos
join:2000-08-19
Astoria, NY | I sure am glad I sure am glad i have one of those Unlimited internet plans. This way i can download and surf and all the other stuff, cuz its unlimited.
100% sarcasm. | |
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AnClar
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join:2003-07-31
Belton, TX
| iPhone FTW! As more devices like the iPhone come to market, they will drive the increase in wireless browsing. That, along with 4G technology and increased wifi general coverage will be the major drivers. I recently got rid of my Treo 700 with its useless web capabilities (even with EVDO) and got an iPhone. Now for the first time I feel as though I have a device that is usable for surfing. With a full implementation of Safari, the only thing lacking that I have on my home system is Flash. The screen is a decent size, I get a phone, and an iPod too...all in one handy little device. It can only get better as we go forward! 
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Skilos
join:2000-08-19
Astoria, NY
| Re: iPhone FTW! Devices will always get better, yes the phone is cool and will prob get cooler. But if your limited in what you can do with it, surf, p2p, bandwidth caps, then what good is any device.
The Mobile ISP's which are the mobile carriers of today need to wake to this fact, that they will have to become true ISP's to be able to keep up with service demands. after all they chose to go this route, if your going to do it, do it all the way. | |
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huntml
join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ
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1 edit | For $15/mo... ...I get POP and/or web access to all my personal e-mail accounts (six in all) and web access to my work e-mail (my personal device, not set up for Exchange/push, but I can check work e-mail through OWA on my phone without having to VPN in, which is kinda handy sometimes);
Streaming internet radio and Sirius (existing Sirius subscriber, have access to everything you can access over the internet);
YouTube and other vid sites (Google Video, Veoh, Joox, etc., including some pr0n sites);
A full IM client;
And I plan to add a Slingbox in the next month or so.
Considering I pay >$100/mo for home internet and cable, $15/mo for mobile data seems like a good deal to me. My employer has all streaming blocked and I usually use over 500MB/mo just streaming music at work. | |
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