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brianiscool

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Windows 8

Why not fix Windows 7 group policies? I am sure Windows 7 has a lot of bugs you could fix before going onto your next operating system.

skeechan
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Re: Windows 8

Churn generates their revenue.
Rekrul

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said by brianiscool:

Why not fix Windows 7 group policies? I am sure Windows 7 has a lot of bugs you could fix before going onto your next operating system.

It's called "Planned Obsolescence", and it's what Microsoft's entire business model is based on. Windows 8 hasn't launched yet and they probably already have a team working on Windows 9.

BF69
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Re: Windows 8

said by Rekrul:

said by brianiscool:

Why not fix Windows 7 group policies? I am sure Windows 7 has a lot of bugs you could fix before going onto your next operating system.

It's called "Planned Obsolescence", and it's what Microsoft's entire business model is based on. Windows 8 hasn't launched yet and they probably already have a team working on Windows 9.

Yeah and? just because people are still using XP doesn't mean OSes are supposed to last 10+ years. Remember windows 95? then came 98 then XP in 2001. Hmmm see a trend? No one bitches when Android updates it's OS every 6 months.
Chubbysumo

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Re: Windows 8

said by BF69:

said by Rekrul:

said by brianiscool:

Why not fix Windows 7 group policies? I am sure Windows 7 has a lot of bugs you could fix before going onto your next operating system.

It's called "Planned Obsolescence", and it's what Microsoft's entire business model is based on. Windows 8 hasn't launched yet and they probably already have a team working on Windows 9.

Yeah and? just because people are still using XP doesn't mean OSes are supposed to last 10+ years. Remember windows 95? then came 98 then XP in 2001. Hmmm see a trend? No one bitches when Android updates it's OS every 6 months.

windows 8 is quite the joke tho, with survey after survey saying that even after continued use, people just don't like it on a desktop. Windows 8 was not made for a desktop, it was made for a touch screen, and if you dont have a touchscreen, its a cumbersome interface. No company(or individual) will upgrade to windows 8 from windows 7, or windows XP or 2000 for that matter, when many companies just now started transitioning from windows XP or windows 2000 to windows 7. Windows 8 is a tablet/touchscreen OS, and nothing more. People who want productivity will stick with windows 7. I hate to say luddites are right, but in this case, windows 8 is a gigantic joke to everyone that I know, and every review that I see online basically says its like an OS designed for and by toddlers.

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Re: Windows 8

What kills me is Microsoft will be selling Windows 8 starting this month on desktops. This is another Windows Me Windows Vista debacle all over again.
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Chubbysumo

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Re: Windows 8

said by Boricua65:

What kills me is Microsoft will be selling Windows 8 starting this month on desktops. This is another Windows Me Windows Vista debacle all over again.

Windows Vista was actually good, but what killed it was MS trying to sell it and put it on hardware that was well below the minimum specs(and they and OEMs later got sued for the "ready for windows vista" cert and sticker because many systems were not up to par to run vista, which killed its public appearance because OEM systems came pre-loaded with it that should not have had it, thus, on crappy hardware, it ran like crap).
I ran vista up until a short while ago(3 months, wanted DX11, and the DX11 support hacks for vista were buggy), and on hardware that can handle it, it runs just fine(and in some cases, better than windows 7). Actually, did you know that windows vista and windows 7 are literally 90% the same exact code? All that changed was a few core improvements in what starts with the computer when you turn it on(mainly improvements to superfetch and running services), and a UI facelift, and that is it. Window vista and windows 7 are nearly exactly the same.

Windows ME on the other hand, was quite terrible.

BF69
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said by Boricua65:

What kills me is Microsoft will be selling Windows 8 starting this month on desktops. This is another Windows Me Windows Vista debacle all over again.

You've never gave it a real try. You posts says that. Quit hatin.

Boricua65
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Re: Windows 8

Wrong!! I downloaded the consumer preview a few months ago and tried it out.

BF69
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said by Chubbysumo:

windows 8 is quite the joke tho, with survey after survey saying that even after continued use, people just don't like it on a desktop. Windows 8 was not made for a desktop, it was made for a touch screen, and if you dont have a touchscreen, its a cumbersome interface. No company(or individual) will upgrade to windows 8 from windows 7, or windows XP or 2000 for that matter, when many companies just now started transitioning from windows XP or windows 2000 to windows 7. Windows 8 is a tablet/touchscreen OS, and nothing more. People who want productivity will stick with windows 7. I hate to say luddites are right, but in this case, windows 8 is a gigantic joke to everyone that I know, and every review that I see online basically says its like an OS designed for and by toddlers.

Really because I've been using it since early March and I like it just fine. And at $40 for the upgrade why not jump on that deal? My son also uses it and likes it. Of course unlike the haters we actually gave it a REAL shot. So no it's not a joke. The joke is the hater who didn't try it or tired it for 5 minutes and dismissed it.

It works just fine on a desktop. and there are these things call touchpads you can buy if you really insist on needing to use one.

Actually when I have to use someone's Windows 7 or god forbid XP machine I find them to be so cumbersome.
Chubbysumo

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Right to resell headline is misleading

Why its misleading is because the case has nothing to do with the first sale doctrine at all.

Here's the short story: Some kid from Thailand went to college here in the states. He found out the books he needed were about 1/10th the price in his home country that they were here, so, he had his family purchasing a bunch, and shipping them over to him. The student then resold those textbooks making millions in the process. The student then gets sued by several copyright holders under the "importing and reselling copyrighted works without permission" codes, and his lawyer is trying to turn it into a first sale doctrine case, which it is NOT, nor is it related. Your first sale doctrine rights are NOT at risk.

Why hes trying to bring it as right of first sale is because he has no case otherwise. There is already codified laws regarding "the import and sale of copyright material(as in copyrighted in the USA, but sold outside the USA, and never destined for a USA market)". He(the student) did not obtain permission from the book copyright holder to import or sell the book in the USA, thus, he is on the hook for it. It should have never left court, since it should have been dealt with at the border(import of illegal goods is Border patrols area), which is likely what the supreme court is going to say after they get a look at it. First sale doctrine is NOT at stake, and this mislead was done on purpose by his lawyers to rile the public(and gain support for him when he should not have any). What this really does is expose how the book publishers grossly overcharge for textbooks here in the USA versus in other countries. They charge what they can get away with, and its always cheaper to order from overseas. What is really at stake here, is any and all online retailers that allow you to purchase from outside the USA and then import it, as this would not be legal if they rule in favor and scope of what Wiley & Sons is asking for.

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