 | | Not sure how you steal channels you can get over the AIR! Some of you will be paying a monthly fee for a box to unencrypt the crappy network channels, anyone I know that has the basic tier I will make damn sure the cable company loses that customer. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Not sure how you steal channels you can get over the AIR! Because the channels would be coming through a coaxial cable via service that apparently people aren't paying for? I'm curious how many times this actually happens. | |
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| Re: Not sure how you steal channels you can get over the AIR! said by openbox9:Because the channels would be coming through a coaxial cable via service that apparently people aren't paying for? I'm curious how many times this actually happens.
I think they just want to have another box to charge for that's all! | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Not sure how you steal channels you can get over the AIR! said by nonamesleft:said by openbox9:Because the channels would be coming through a coaxial cable via service that apparently people aren't paying for? I'm curious how many times this actually happens.
I think they just want to have another box to charge for that's all! Why is it ok for DirecTv, DishNetwork, U-verse and FiOS to do this? | |
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| Re: Not sure how you steal channels you can get over the AIR! said by BF69:said by nonamesleft:said by openbox9:Because the channels would be coming through a coaxial cable via service that apparently people aren't paying for? I'm curious how many times this actually happens.
I think they just want to have another box to charge for that's all! Why is it ok for DirecTv, DishNetwork, U-verse and FiOS to do this? Are any of them cable companies? Cable companies are looking to squeeze out that last drop of blood. I hope this move bites them in the ass. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Not sure how you steal channels you can get over the AIR! what does that have to do with anything? They are all pay TV providers. I think they should all have to play by the same rules.
yes yes you don't want to pay for a box. I get that. Don't let that desire cloud your logic of what is right. Either they ALL can encrypt or NONE can. It's that simple. I don't see how you can find fault with that. | |
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| Re: Not sure how you steal channels you can get over the AIR! said by BF69:what does that have to do with anything? They are all pay TV providers. I think they should all have to play by the same rules. yes yes you don't want to pay for a box. I get that. Don't let that desire cloud your logic of what is right. Either they ALL can encrypt or NONE can. It's that simple. I don't see how you can find fault with that. You should give this guy an answer too: Austinloop, I think he brings up valid points. Or are you scairt of his comment? | |
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| As for DirecTv, DishNetwork and U-Verse, the signal coming into the location from either the satellite or the VRAD are not in a form that can be viewed on the vast majority of TV's.
For DirectTv and DishNetwork, the signal must be changed to a frequency that the TV can accept. The IPTV signal (U-Verse) must be converted to a signal that the TV can understand. | |
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Chesterfield, MO | Over the week end I read an article about this that claimed it could be as high as 5%. The claimed loss to the cable industry was billions (I forget how many but I want to say it was like $8.xB).
I certainly don't approve of stealing cable but this smells a lot like when the software industry claimed billions on lost sales due to theft. I always felt it made a lot of sense to consider the sale lost only if a perfect system prevents theft AND former thieves actually purchase. Whether thieves actually buy is a big question mark. Some former signal thieves might buy but not the entire 5%. Therefore the true lost revenue might just be billion, not billions. Still BIG MONEY but if you do this, will you lose any of the honest 99% which makes this a zero-sum endeavor?
I have two digital set top boxes and a 16-way splitter with four open ports. One is for the cableco phone ATA, one is for the HSI modem but rest are TVs. If all but two go dark and I have to pay even a $1.00/month to make them all work, I'll have to consider something else. (Three are for the kids Media Center DVR cards.)
The article I read also mentioned that truck rolls to physically disconnect cables would be a thing of the past and that's certainly real savings but with the billions invested in cable plant over the past decade, if this is really big money why didn't they have addressable pedestals that could disable taps from the central office? | |
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1 edit | Re: Not sure how you steal channels you can get over the AIR! said by rradina:The article I read also mentioned that truck rolls to physically disconnect cables would be a thing of the past and that's certainly real savings I get that and I guess I was under the impression that cable company SOP was to disconnect cables when service was terminated. I fully get the desire to not roll trucks to (de)activate service, but I tend to agree with your assessment regarding fishy numbers that cable companies might be using.
Edit: Oh, and those numbers were apparently from 2004. The pay TV landscape has changed significantly during the last eight years. | |
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Chesterfield, MO | Softbank Sprint Deal If the deal is approved, I wonder what Japanese accountants think of Sprint's current packages and whether or not they will try to generate more revenue by matching the big two? | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Softbank Sprint Deal Or raise rates to levels that the Japanese have the "pleasure" of experiencing. | |
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Lincolnshire, IL | Re: Softbank Sprint Deal said by openbox9:Or raise rates to levels that the Japanese have the "pleasure" of experiencing.
You mean Softbank's ¥5,460mo ($70) unlimited no-contract plan which includes LTE & 7GB tethering? I'll take that! | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Softbank Sprint Deal No, I mean Softbank's ¥980 White Plan + ¥315 S! Basic + ¥5460 Unlimited Data = ¥6755/mth for a 2-yr contract with a cancellation fee after the contract expires. Add in the ¥42/min voice and Softbank's spotty network, and you can have it. I can't wait to be done with it. | |
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| | | | Re: Softbank Sprint Deal said by meeeeeeeeee:Somehow, I don't have a warm, fuzzy feeling that this will be a GOOD thing for consumers.
Only time will tell, but I have the same sinking feeling. I guess I've been functioning in an unreality bubble, where I was still believing the Sprint I was using today was the same Sprint I signed-up with over 13 years ago. It's becoming painfully obvious to me that's no longer the case, and hasn't been for some time.
What a shame.
Were I to still want to go with a "smart"phone, here, now, would be my choices:
- The thing that calls itself "AT&T," who, of the four carriers with a national footprint, regularly rates last in customer service, caps data and whom I utterly cannot stand and will not use
- Verizon Wireless, which caps you at 2GB of shared data, for their lowest-end usable plan and whose lowest-end plans are too expensive. (Great network, tho.)
- T-Mobile, whose parent company wants out of the U.S. market so badly that they'll sell themselves to nearly anybody. (Hey, TMO, I hear there's a Japanese carrier that wants into the U.S. market!)
- Sprint, who will sell you unlimited data for what the others will sell you capped data, but whose data network is the worst of the four and will soon be a Japanese-owned company, so who knows what's coming?
Those are some wonderful choices.
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