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by Revcb 07:30AM Monday Mar 25 2013

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rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

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Google Fiber and Legal Red Tape

While I generally agree we have too much red tape in this country, I disagree in that I believe some regulation of these products is beneficial. With telco Internet and video, they've always cherry picked where it's convenient to provide service. If we allow anyone to lay fiber, what stops them from cherry picking easy locations and for any reason they choose, leave vast swaths of customer without service and no recourse? Then there's the placement of the curb-side refrigerators. There have been more than a few articles on this site regarding customers upset with placement of ugly boxes. While it costs more and access is harder, is it really that big of a deal to put these things in the back yard? I'm sure every property owner and municipality would prefer that to sticking it right next to the sidewalk next to a neighborhood stop sign.
elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
·EarthLink

Re: Google Fiber and Legal Red Tape

said by rradina:

While I generally agree we have too much red tape in this country, I disagree in that I believe some regulation of these products is beneficial. With telco Internet and video, they've always cherry picked where it's convenient to provide service. If we allow anyone to lay fiber, what stops them from cherry picking easy locations and for any reason they choose, leave vast swaths of customer without service and no recourse?

Telco and Cableco are hardly cherry-picking.

exocet_cm
Free at last, free at last
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
kudos:3

Windows Blue

They just don't get it with these stupid tiles do they.

hey hey hey

@charter.com

Re: Windows Blue

said by exocet_cm:

They just don't get it with these stupid tiles do they.

Maybe it's YOU that doesn't get it. No one is forcing you to use Windows 8. Heck people are still using XP and that came out in 2001. I'm sure there will be people still using Windows 7 in 2020.
ilianame

join:2002-06-05
Burnaby, BC
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Shaw

Re: Windows Blue

- OP is questioning designer's decision to utilize "tiles"
- Respondent is notifying OP that using Windows 8 is optional

Gee willikers, thanks Cptn. Obvious.

Ever considered:
Replying to on-line threads = optional,
Comprehending before replying = mandatory
?
XknightHawkX

join:2003-02-13
East Peoria, IL

Death of Wired Broadband??

Why do they keep saying this? Wireless will never replace wired broadband.

The only thing I can think of is that they think if they keep saying it then it will happen. The investment type people want caps and overages. Wireless has this. Wired does not and every time they try to get it on wired they learn that the people won't allow it.

Wireless is slow and inconsistent.

nonamesleft

join:2011-11-07
Manitowoc, WI
Reviews:
·Comcast
·Callcentric

Re: Death of Wired Broadband??

said by XknightHawkX:

Why do they keep saying this? Wireless will never replace wired broadband.

The only thing I can think of is that they think if they keep saying it then it will happen. The investment type people want caps and overages. Wireless has this. Wired does not and every time they try to get it on wired they learn that the people won't allow it.

Wireless is slow and inconsistent.

And expensive.

RR Conductor
NWP RR Inc.,serving NW CA
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
kudos:1

Re: Death of Wired Broadband??

Well, wired has caps too, but they are often WAY above anything wireless has. I can see wireless being a good option for your ISP if you live where there is no WISP or wired broadband available, otherwise they are going to stay mainly for on the go access, not for a full time setup at a home or business.

That situation in the NE with the Verizon DSL lines? That is just wrong, where are the regulators in this? No wonder we are so behind in broadband, we let greed rule a technology that that should be treated as a utility in this day and age. If we had left it up to power companies, half this nation would probably still be without power, or at least reliable power, the REA did an AMAZING job, and in a VERY short time.
Kamus

join:2011-01-27
El Paso, TX

Re: Death of Wired Broadband??

said by RR Conductor:

Well, wired has caps too, but they are often WAY above anything wireless has. I can see wireless being a good option for your ISP if you live where there is no WISP or wired broadband available, otherwise they are going to stay mainly for on the go access, not for a full time setup at a home or business.

That situation in the NE with the Verizon DSL lines? That is just wrong, where are the regulators in this? No wonder we are so behind in broadband, we let greed rule a technology that that should be treated as a utility in this day and age. If we had left it up to power companies, half this nation would probably still be without power, or at least reliable power, the REA did an AMAZING job, and in a VERY short time.

To those people wishing this happens (wall street) i'll just say this:

Be careful what you wish for...

When wireless gets to the point where people would actually consider it as a real substitute for an unlimited data service it's not going to be for the garbage service providers sell right now.

It's going to be just as good as fixed broadband when it comes to capacity and more importantly, the technology will so good we won't need to depend on carriers anymore. At least not in the way we do today.
buzz_4_20

join:2003-09-20
Limestone, ME
Reviews:
·ObiVoice
·Pioneer Wireless
Amen Brother...

Wireless broadband is nice, for my phone, or tethering when needed.

But you can't beat a physical connection.
Wires/optics will always be faster, how do you think the cell towers are connected? With a wireless link, NOPE, they have a fiber connection and why, cause it's the only thing FAST and STABLE enough to serve that wireless access.
chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA

Re: Death of Wired Broadband??

So who are tmobile and sprint towers connected to for backhaul, who serves verizon in att territory and vice versa? I heard in some areas cable broadband companies like comcast feed into cell towers.

CaptainRR
Premium
join:2006-04-21
Blue Rock, OH

Re: Death of Wired Broadband??

I am in at&t territory and Time Warner feeds fiber to Verizons cell sites in my area. For what I heard at&t couldn't be bothered. You can tell nobody can get DSL here only dialup.

RR Conductor
NWP RR Inc.,serving NW CA
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
kudos:1

Re: Death of Wired Broadband??

said by CaptainRR:

I am in at&t territory and Time Warner feeds fiber to Verizons cell sites in my area. For what I heard at&t couldn't be bothered. You can tell nobody can get DSL here only dialup.

What about Cable?

CaptainRR
Premium
join:2006-04-21
Blue Rock, OH

Re: Death of Wired Broadband??

Time Warner runs only along the main road through here between two cities. You get away from that state road there is nothing other than Verizons overpriced LTE.
chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA

Re: Death of Wired Broadband??

Blue Rock is small town and from map it looks to me like its in "middle of nowhere" and far from Columbus. I googled and I found its township with about 650 people.

Are there any WISPs there?
jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA
Wow, I used to ride through your area weekly as a child going through McConnelsville to Zanesville. That's a VERY rural area. McConnelsville's hardly a city and Zanesville is also small potatoes as far as being a city really. Frankly, I lived in the area before. I pretty surprised that you even have overpriced LTE or CABLE along one road.

RR Conductor
NWP RR Inc.,serving NW CA
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
kudos:1
said by CaptainRR:

Time Warner runs only along the main road through here between two cities. You get away from that state road there is nothing other than Verizons overpriced LTE.

We're in a very rural county (Mendocino, NW CA) as well, most areas of the county don't have cable lines (though the most populated areas do), they run from Ukiah up through Redwood Valley to Willits, then over to the coast at Fort Bragg, and serve it and some nearby small towns.

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»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwood_Va···lifornia

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