More Closed Door Neutrality Deals Struck Without pesky public input into the process We've already seen how the Goorizon deal is little more than an empty shell, solely designed to keep tougher consumer protections away from wireless networks, while leaving plenty of loopholes open for anti-competitive behavior over wired networks. Now a group of companies including Microsoft, the NCTA, Verizon, AT&T and Skype have " reached an agreement" on network neutrality behind closed doors, with no public, government, or objective expert input. As Mike Masnick at Techdirt notes, such a deal is a blend of hubris and pointlessness: I'm still at a loss as to how this actually matters. The companies can agree to whatever they want, and none of it makes a difference if Congress acts (or the courts say that the FCC is allowed to act). I guess the idea is to think that an "industry agreement" will stave off legislation, which perhaps might work for some time, but still reeks of collusion without consumer input or review. Again, the hope is that by proposing a set of weak, voluntary principles (this one also doesn't address wireless), weak regulators will buckle and avoid imposing tougher consumer protections -- something that frequently works in a country where a responsible regulatory presence is considered on par with puppy torture. While it's certainly not a given for an FCC that's often intimidated by such massive companies, it's not clear it's going to work in this instance, since the FCC truly wants neutrality rules that cover wireless -- and they're fairly set on their plan to partially reclassify ISPs under Title 2 of the Communications Act.
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|  |  |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | said by FreedomBuild:said by OldschoolDSL:Top level Government Officials, Government Agencies, and Congress for rent & lease. Must be secretive of all transaction and be willing to offer lump sum cash or open end check... Preferably open end check. Only the rich need apply. Perhaps those lacking integrity need apply So you mean the entirety of Congress? -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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|  |  |  rawwhidePremium join:2000-09-03 The Sticks | Re: America for rent & lease The kind you can stuff in the freezer.  | |
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 |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 | said by OldschoolDSL:Top level Government Officials, Government Agencies, and Congress for rent & lease. Must be secretive of all transaction and be willing to offer lump sum cash or open end check... Preferably open end check. Only the rich need apply. How is the industry agreement secretive when they are trumpeting their proposal from the rooftops in their press release? | |
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| said by OldschoolDSL:Top level Government Officials, Government Agencies, and Congress for rent & lease. ... sorry. the US govt is already OWNED, and not by the people. | |
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 | | This is the reason... This is yet another reason why the Internet needs to be declared a public utility-and regulated as such. Even Canada has figured out that the big boys are already WAY too big-and need to be smacked. | |
|  |  VanPremium join:2009-07-08 New Orleans, LA | Who here thinks that these companies dictating this country's internet policy would even SLIGHTLY be good for us?
We have seen more and more companies instituting ridiculous caps designed to simply get MORE money from us on top of their absurd charges.
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|  | | internet where is everyone? AT&T and Verizon are public utlities and they do what they want when they want. And they ARE regulated but there is no teeth in the regulations or the government. follow the money | |
|  plkLil' Duffer Burger BarnPremium join:2002-04-20 Ogden, IA | stop wasting time These companies are not going to do what is right, just classify them under title 2, then cut them slack only where its needed under the act. | |
|  jester121Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL Reviews:
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| Baseless speculation in a country where a responsible regulatory presence is considered on par with puppy torture. How would anyone know this -- we either end up with free-for-all capitalism trampling all over the poor consumers or draconian over-regulation that stifles innovation of any kind.
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|  | | The entire affair has alway been a corporate squabble. Google has been behind all of the lobbying for "network neutrality" regulations, and telecommunications companies -- large and small -- have justifiably opposed those regulations as harmful not only to them but to the public. The FCC needn't get involved now that the corporations are hammering out settlements between themselves. In fact, it would be horrible if it did. We don't want to open the door to regulation of the Net. | |
|  |  | | I think the whole debate takes little too far I am not defending Verizon, ATT and other telecom but they don't want neutrality on wireless because they want profit for voice services over mobile VOIP (their own).
I don't know if Skype will remain on phones. | |
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