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join:2000-08-21 Glen Burnie, MD | Stupid investors.... Instead of long term growth and stability, they want next day profits and roller coaster prices.
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join:2005-06-24 | Re: Stupid investors.... Obviously your not an investor. Investors want a quick return on their money so they can cash in and re-invest in another stock to make more money. The days of investing in a company for life are long gone.
Its how the rich get richer. | |
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 |  |   Shamayim I already have a Messiah. Premium join:2002-09-23 1 edit | Re: Stupid investors.... Fat pipes, Si! Fat cats, No! | |
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join:2001-08-17 Wheeling, IL | And that's one of the problems with the current business models. | |
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| Re: Stupid investors.... said by tsu9 :And that's one of the problems with the current business models. Gotta love locust economics. It's why this country is being driven down the tubes: mortgaging the future for short term payoff.
-tom -- "Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." -Louis D Brandeis | |
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| Re: Stupid investors.... said by nixen :said by tsu9 :And that's one of the problems with the current business models. Gotta love locust economics. It's why this country is being driven down the tubes: mortgaging the future for short term payoff. -tom DING DING DING!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!! | |
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(Don't forget, they are spending money based on taxes that won't be collected until 2025 and beyond!...if we are lucky! And they expect US to save???) | |
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| Re: Stupid investors.... said by NyQuil Kid :I presume from that statement that you, and others on this board, pay cash for everything and have no debt whatsoever...that you keep a clean personal balance sheet....I mean, if you didn't and used credit cards on a regular basis...why, that would make you a hypocrite and that can't possibly be the case now could it? [8F] The NyQuil Kid 
Personal spending habits have far different impacts than investment habits/demands do. Me having or not having credit card, mortgage or other debt does not cause companies to forego long-term investments to meet the quarter-to-quarter demands of investors.

-tom -- "Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." -Louis D Brandeis | |
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2 edits | Re: Stupid investors.... Personal spending habits have _everything_ to do with investment habits/demand....it's obvious you don't have even the slightest notion of how a modern economy works - it's pretty evident by this thread that you aren't alone in this either.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian
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| Re: Stupid investors.... said by NyQuil Kid :Personal spending habits have _everything_ to do with investment habits/demand....it's obvious you don't have even the slightest notion of how a modern economy works - it's pretty evident by this thread that you aren't alone in this either. Oh great prophet of modern economics, do tell us all how it all Really Works™.
-tom -- "Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." -Louis D Brandeis | |
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join:2006-01-03 New York, NY
| Re: Stupid investors.... FerricOxide pay him no attention he's just another excited kiddie that has just discovered he can become a PHD by reading wikipedia. WTF do credit cards, etc... have to do with investors pushing companies to forgo future planning (screwing the company and the investor 5 years into the future) in favor of short term rises in profit. These profit rises aren't real as the company didn't have a right to spend that money in the first place. It's kind of like a human saying he is saving money by not buying food and starving himself/herself. | |
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join:2001-01-06 Brick, NJ 1 edit | Re: Stupid investors.... And another one joins the ranks of the obtuse; your membership packet is in the mail 
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| Re: Stupid investors.... said by NyQuil Kid :And another one joins the ranks of the obtuse; your membership packet is in the mail  [8F] The NyQuil Kid You action and your boasts say that you think you know something significant. Well: let's hear it. What great secret to the economy do you actually know. Please help enlighten those of us who are apparently so in the dark.
In other words: put up or shut up.
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join:2006-01-03 New York, NY | Re: Stupid investors.... I think the fbi must have gotten him before he could reveal the earth shattering documents. LOL | |
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| said by NewMariner :Obviously your not an investor. Investors want a quick return on their money so they can cash in and re-invest in another stock to make more money. The days of investing in a company for life are long gone. Its how the rich get richer. day trading hasn't worked since the dot com bust. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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join:2002-04-05 Tampa, FL
| You my friend need to reed the book THE MILLIONAIRE NEXT DOOR! That is not in fact how the rich get richer on a broad scale. The rich get richer because they have a long term vision and have the ability to deny themselves immediate gratification for a long term return. | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | Re: Stupid investors.... VZ isnt buying ATT, if anything ATT will buy VZ, and ATT never spends capitol. ATT buys VZ end of fios and investors will love fios ending and being fed fruity IPTV lines. | |
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join:2002-12-06 Tucson, AZ | Re: Stupid investors.... Same here!!! | |
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join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs: | Nahh they will keep the verizon name, its all about brand recognition. | |
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join:2001-08-17 Wheeling, IL | Re: Stupid investors.... AT&T has much more significant brand recognition than Verizon. | |
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| Re: Stupid investors.... said by tsu9 :AT&T has much more significant brand recognition than Verizon. For me, and many here, the AT&T brand is akin to putting a stinking pile of dog shit on the label and trying to sell it....
AT&T stinks, and I don't like them!!! | |
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join:2001-08-17 Wheeling, IL | Re: Stupid investors.... I never said it was good brand recognition, but the brand has been around for a very, very long time. | |
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join:2006-01-03 New York, NY | Re: Stupid investors.... AT&T is in poverty compared to Verizon even if Verizon spends tons of cash on FIOS there is no way AT&T will ever be in a position to buy them. Give FIOS 1 year after major city MDU deployment and then talk. | |
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join:2004-09-27 Pensacola, FL
| said by moonpuppy :Instead of long term growth and stability, they want next day profits and roller coaster prices. People will pay for good products. Too bad the USA doesn't think like the Japanese or we'd be the envy rather than Japan. | |
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  hobgoblin Sortof Agoblin Premium join:2001-11-25 Orchard Park, NY clubs: | News? Is this news or just more "I love Fios" garbage.
Guess its a slow day eh?
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| Re: News? said by hobgoblin :Is this news or just more "I love Fios" garbage. Guess its a slow day eh? Hob EVERYONE[that can get it] LOVES FIOS. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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join:2001-08-17 Wheeling, IL | Re: News? Actually, I'm fairly certain that everybody--regardless of ability to obtain it--loves FIOS.  | |
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| Re: News? said by tsu9 :Actually, I'm fairly certain that everybody--regardless of ability to obtain it--loves FIOS. Yeah....but that does not make it NEWS. -- "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson | |
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join:2001-08-17 Wheeling, IL | Re: News? I don't recall ever insinuating that it did! | |
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I mean, with all that "fat pipe" talk, I would imagine that could hurt..... | |
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join:2002-04-08 San Antonio, TX | when 60% or more of average internet users don't know what a firewall is, I really doubt they'll know about or love FIOS. | |
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| FIOS should get love My parents recently got FIOS and I was blown away by the speed. But what really threw me for a loop was that they were paying less than I was paying to Comcast for less than half the speed. Too bad FIOS will never arrive in my area. --
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join:2003-07-23 College Station, TX
| Gotta give them props I agree that they should be given props for sticking their head out there and doing something different. The amazing thing is that while Cable & old Telephone companies are working with outdated equipment spending so much that bring it up to par with Verizon's fiber (that's laughable) when it comes down to it they can't compete.
Lets take OptOnline in NY for example: If OptOnline wants to raise their speeds to compete they have to consider how the increase will affect their network. They mainly have to figure out how to squeeze the last bit of throughput out of those coaxial cables.
Verizon on the other hand has so much room to work. They are not even touching the total capacity. 
More importantly with the increase of all this fiber being laid, other companies will start to come around. AT&T and the rest will see a major deficiency (hopefully soon) and start the same thing.
I predict a massive reduction in the cost of bandwidth in the next few years. Ten years down the road and Fiber will be everywhere. That will be a good day  | |
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join:2004-08-26 Lindenhurst, NY | The problem The problem on Long Island is that verizon doesnt want to make money lol. Many people would switch but verizon has been dragging lol. I thought NY is verizons home state . Wouldnt you htink we would get deployed quick ? | |
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join:2005-05-11 Duluth, GA
| 30Mbps Up 5Mbps Down for %55/month? Love It! But this is just fantasy, because I live in BumkinSouth land, which will be swallowed up soon by the New Deathstar for thei Project Limpspeed. Costs more, does less. What else would you expect from Darth Whitacre & Company? | |
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