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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | So? What is the monthly usage cap on this tier? Is it still 250GB ?
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | Re: So? It shouldn't matter. If I need to download a 250 MB file, it would be nice to get it twice as fast. That doesn't mean I'm going to download ANOTHER 250 MB file just to fill in the time I saved. | |
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join:1999-08-30
Brooklyn, NY
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| Re: So? That's not exactly how it works you know. When you upgraded from dialup to DSL/Cable, did you continue to do only what you did with dialup? Or did you take advantage of services that were tailored for DSL/Cable speeds?
Odds are the latter is true, not the former.
Caps do nothing at all except force users to cease using their connections to their full capabilities. | |
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join:2008-08-08
Parkville, MD
| said by pnh102  :What is the monthly usage cap on this tier? Is it still 250GB ? 251GB  | |
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Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs: | So... If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2? | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: So... Looks like it'll be bumped to 22/5. Too bad though...OOL goes faster for less on DOCSIS 2.0. | |
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Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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| Re: So... said by iansltx :Looks like it'll be bumped to 22/5. Too bad though...OOL goes faster for less on DOCSIS 2.0. Sweet mother of all that is holy, that would be sweet. But since no competition other then Embarq, I don't know when D3 would even be put in place  | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: So... In the same boat here...Qwest territory, and my area (Golden, CO) isn't on the short list of ADSL2+ upgrades. So 5 Mbit is the fastest we have.
What I'm wondering is what'll happen to the 4 Mbit "retention" speed tier... | |
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Cultivant son jardin
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join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO
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| Re: So... I have hope that Qwest's recent advertising efforts (that 20 Mbps downstream service they apparently have going to a handful of houses here) will prompt Comcast to puch out DOCSIS 3 here in Colorado. Qwest is trying hard to undercut the Slowskys marketing even if all they can offer in most places is just the old plain Jane DSL.
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FrostyMelon
join:2006-02-06
Colorado Springs, CO | Re: So... Qwest is up and running in Colorado Springs with their new service, hopefully that gives comcast a poke to do some upgrading with theirs. | |
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join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| said by Cheese :Sweet mother of all that is holy, that would be sweet. ... what the heck are you so excited about? everybody knows there is nothing to do with speeds like that (except pirate IP, of course) - all those cable CEOs tell us so. | |
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jasonbounrels
| it is going to go to 16/2 at the same price of 52.95 with tv 62.95 with out. the new 22/5 is going to be extra cost. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by iansltx :Looks like it'll be bumped to 22/5. Too bad though...OOL goes faster for less on DOCSIS 2.0. BOOST is $65.95 isn't it? for 30000 / 5000 (servers allowed, port 80 open!)
no reason why comcast cant do these speeds on D2 if cablevision can.
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: So... Around here FTP port is open on Comcast, which is cool. Not sure about HTTP though; I run my router webserver over 8081.
OOL Boost is $60-ish for uncapped (30+ Mbps) downloads and 5 Mbps uploads. Verynice. | |
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PaulHikeS2
join:2003-03-06
Merrimack, NH
·Comcast
| said by Cheese :If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2? 16/2
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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| Re: So... said by PaulHikeS2 :said by Cheese :If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2? 16/2 That would be cool too  | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| said by PaulHikeS2 :said by Cheese :If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2? 16/2 So, what happens to the already 16/2 non-D3 service?
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join:2003-03-06
Merrimack, NH
·Comcast
| Re: So... said by dadkins :said by PaulHikeS2 :said by Cheese :If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2? 16/2 So, what happens to the already 16/2 non-D3 service? I believe it stays the same.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Re: So... That sucks. Ah well... | |
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Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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| said by dadkins :said by PaulHikeS2 :said by Cheese :If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2? 16/2 So, what happens to the already 16/2 non-D3 service? Yes, what does happen?  | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Hit your cap in only 26 hours yippie! | |
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fatmanskinny
Premium
join:2004-01-04
Wandering | Re: Hit your cap in only 26 hours My sentiments. Lol! | |
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TSI Gabe
Premium,VIP
join:2007-01-03
Chatham, ON | Actually if you count the upload its a little over 5 hours. | |
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K3
join:2008-05-06
Kankakee, IL
·Comcast
| Re: Hit your cap in only 26 hours shoulda known we'd get whiners about caps, just use it the same as you do now, just cause speeds get faster doesn't mean you can download more, you just get your files faster, learn some control for a change!! Im sure caps will go up as the speeds get faster but for now 250GB should be plenty enough. Bring on the D3 to Chicagoland!! | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Hit your cap in only 26 hours said by K3 :shoulda known we'd get whiners about caps, just use it the same as you do now, just cause speeds get faster doesn't mean you can download more, you just get your files faster, learn some control for a change!! Im sure caps will go up as the speeds get faster but for now 250GB should be plenty enough. Bring on the D3 to Chicagoland!! EXACTLY!
Since the 1500kbps days, my usage is still in the 30GB per month range - even though my speeds are(actual) 17.3mbps now.
The distance to the store is still 15 miles, no matter how fast your bike can go.
Moped/Busa - doesn't matter.
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join:2003-03-06
Merrimack, NH
·Comcast
| Re: Hit your cap in only 26 hours said by fatmanskinny :Comcast Bottlers currently sell a one-gallon water (data cap per month) bottle with a certain sized hole that allows up to 3 ounces of water to flow out of it per second (rate of data exchange). All Comcast Bottlers did was offer a newer one-gallon (data cap per month) bottle with a bigger hole that allows up to 16 ounces of water to flow out of it per second (rate of data exchange), charge you more because water flows faster but you still have that one-gallon limit. With the caps in place, I will just keep with the 3 ounces until I can find a provider where I could get bigger bottles and faster flow of the water. Good analogy! You only left out the part that say 95% of their customers use perhaps 1/4 of a cup out of that gallon. If you're using more than the whole gallon perhaps an irrigation system should be considered. 
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fatmanskinny
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join:2004-01-04
Wandering | Re: Hit your cap in only 26 hours ROFLMAO!!!!! | |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Other providers give you the ocean. Keep your bottles with screw caps. | |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
Premium
join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
| Back in the 1.5 down days, I had to wait for a min or so before I started watching a movie trailer. So if I wanted to watch a bunch of them, I ended up sitting there for a few hours waiting for them to buffer. Now I can watch 3 trailers in the time it took me to watch one. I can get my entertainment fix in and still have time for other things. But if I want to sit at the pc all day and watch stuff, I can watch 3+ times as many things as before without having to wait for it to buffer.
Remember, a lot of the reasoning for lower consumption before was that it was time prohibative to use more. You may still have the same surfing habbits that you did back in 2000, but many of us have come to utilize that extra speed to be able to do more in the same amount of time. Not just take less time to do the same.
What I find kind of amusing is that back in the day, when sending pics and videos to people, there were always complaints to resize to make it smaller. Now with faster speeds, I dont care if my dad sends me 30 3mb pics. And since more and more people have digital cameras and camcorders, and just as few of them know how to resize or use compression, theres going to be a large increase in traffic just for family photos/drunken jackass videos.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Hit your cap in only 26 hours I have to ask, has your use multiplied by a factor of 5?
While you may have found more/new things to burn throughput with, is it that much higher than it was back then?
I download movies(Yeah! I said it!).
I download games & game demos.
I download and listen to streaming music.
I use hulu, veoh, Joost, NBC, CBS, ABC(even though they suck)...
... and here I sit still rarely breaking 30GB per month.
*IF* I can get the 22/5, do I think I will suddenly use 5 times what I do now? Honestly, no.
What will happen is I will wait even less for the items I get now.
As always, YMMV.
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
Premium
join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
| I honestly dont know what my exact usage was (or is, since I have no means of measuring it right now).
But, back when I had 1.5 DSL, I might have spent a couple hours watching videos and what not, eventually getting bored with waiting for it to buffer. Now I find when I go on a video viewing splurge I tend to spend more time doing it and watch more videos because I dont have to wait.
Also, I used to download a song here and there from some of my favorite albums I owned, then when I got 6mb cable (and of course more HDD space) I would just get the whole album. Then I started doing it for my movies because I got tired of searching through my dvd's and vhs tapes (I had over 600).
So, my belief is that as my speed increased, so did my usage because it became more convient for me to do what I wanted in a reasonable amount of time.
So it appears that yes, our mileages vary
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jkj860
The Final Frontier
join:2002-01-10
Valparaiso, IN
·Comcast
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| said by dadkins :... and here I sit still rarely breaking 30GB per month. *IF* I can get the 22/5, do I think I will suddenly use 5 times what I do now? Honestly, no. What will happen is I will wait even less for the items I get now. As always, YMMV. Ditto for me also. Less waiting for my normal routine. Although if/when it becomes available to me I would have to weigh the cost and benefit. My 16/2 blast tier seems more than enough for me. It's smokin'
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| said by dadkins :I have to ask, has your use multiplied by a factor of 5? While you may have found more/new things to burn throughput with, is it that much higher than it was back then? I download movies(Yeah! I said it!). I download games & game demos. I download and listen to streaming music. I use hulu, veoh, Joost, NBC, CBS, ABC(even though they suck)... ... and here I sit still rarely breaking 30GB per month. *IF* I can get the 22/5, do I think I will suddenly use 5 times what I do now? Honestly, no. What will happen is I will wait even less for the items I get now. As always, YMMV. I really doubt that you download demos as most are easily over a 1GB to begin with. If you downloaded 3-5 a month that would alone be 1/5 of what you claim to use.
I play online video games and my usage daily is easily over a 1GB(usually about 2 to 2.5GB) alone from that. Combined with demos that I DO download that is roughly another 5-10GB a month depending on what I download. Add VOIP traffic and a thing here or there and I myself single handed am doing over 100GB a month or close to it. I'm still at about half the Comcast cap but it is not all that generous as many of you make it out to be. It should be sufficient for most but it is not a hard to hit one, specially one with a bigger household than one person. | |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Yeah but some people may want to go to more stores with their faster bike. | |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
| The only reason to go to a tier with more bandwidth is to get large amounts of data faster. If your downloading 10-15MB clips, you don't really need that speed. Going faster can only benefit if you are downloading large amounts of data that would otherwise force you to be idle. So larger cap should go hand in hand with greater bandwidth.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by K3 :shoulda known we'd get whiners about caps, just use it the same as you do now, just cause speeds get faster doesn't mean you can download more, you just get your files faster, learn some control for a change!! Im sure caps will go up as the speeds get faster but for now 250GB should be plenty enough. Bring on the D3 to Chicagoland!! Boy someone has their panties in a wad. I'm hardly whining. I think you lack the sarcasm gene. I'm not even a Comcast customer. And if you actually paid attention I've never been against Comcast's right to have caps. Just the way they are instituting them is the issue. I do however feel to have a cap that only allows one to max out their connection 3%-4% of the time is being disingenuous. Since you pay more for higher speed it's only logical that you should get a higher cap. | |
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Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | They'll FAP you long before then | |
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papi4baby
join:2008-01-19
Callaway, MD | Yay for you guys Must be nice, the fastest i can get is 6/1 for 69.99 no way im paying that, so im stuck with 6/384 for 42 | |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY | Good luck with that one, Comcast! I'm sure tons of people will be jumping ship from FiOS to those lovely 250 GB per month caps... | |
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MalibuMaxx
join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN | 2.6 MB/s Couldn't even imagine going from 680 kbps to 2.6 MB/s... Kinda a big jump for the 6 meg'ers out there... | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: 2.6 MB/s 22/5 is an upgrade from Blast or maybe the 8/2 service, not the 6/1 service. It'll still be faster, at 12 Mbps (1.5 MB/s) but not that much faster. | |
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join:2001-06-14
Chatham, NJ | Re: 2.6 MB/s Seems ridiculously overpriced no? We in CV land get 30/5 for $55 ($29 with triple play promotion). And as was said before, all on Docsis 2.0 to boot. | |
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join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
| Re: 2.6 MB/s said by dealing3000 :Seems ridiculously overpriced no? We in CV land get 30/5 for $55 ($29 with triple play promotion). And as was said before, all on Docsis 2.0 to boot. Actually boost is advertised as 30/5 but is technically uncapped download. so theoretically you can get 38/5 . Plus you have http and email servers allowed with the associated ports opened. | |
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MalibuMaxx
join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN | Yea I read it wrong thought they were upgrading this to the first tier... its acually 1.4 not 1.5 but close hehe... | |
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@comcast.net | Good new These speeds are irrevelent if one is surfeing wirelessly because they are limited to the speeds of the wireless router and/or wireless adapter. so all those with routers... keep this in mind | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: Good new My wireless router can keep up with powerBoost on my current connection, breaking 30 Mbps (Linksys WRT310N) o that isn't a problem... | |
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MightyPez
join:2002-05-01
Saint Paul, MN | Forgive my ignorance If Comcast upgrades the 6/1 tier in DOCSIS 3.0 markets, does that mean users will need a DOCSIS 3.0 modem to see the 12/2 or can they still use their DOCSIS 2.0 modems? | |
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spudmanmike
join:2002-11-24
Gales Ferry, CT |  Dont put the money into D3
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
| No thanks At that price, the tier looses some value. True that I can hit 22 mbps down with PowerBoost, and 90% of the time my download is done before PowerBoost is over. And for torrents, I've never approached my top 8mbps limit, yet alone could even fathom 22mbps steady.
I'd take it as a free upgrade, but I'm not paying in upwards of $62.95 a month for something that's not that big of an improvement over what I have now.
That's ok though, because my system has no bandwidth available, so we won't see DOCSIS 3.0 anytime soon anyway. There's no other pressure (no Fios, no U-Verse, etc..) so there's no indication of upgrading our 750 MHz system to 1 GHz and using the 870~1GHz band for D3. Without much of an immanent threat, it's Comcast at 8/2 or Verizon DSL at 3meg. I'll take the 8/2, sounds like the best price/performance. | |
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kilometers
join:2007-01-24
Sacramento, CA | 16mbps with blast is good enough for me. My downloads are already blazing fast. However, that 5mbps upload is VERY attractive to me. That alone would sell me to the tier. | |
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sansri88
Go digtal you analog laggards
Premium
join:2005-12-17
New York, NY
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1 edit | Take this with a grain of salt Comcast CSR said on the phone that 22/5mbps tier is coming effective November 1st for NJ II.
Edit: Retentions said the same thing. Beginning of November notices will be mailed out to customers about the upgraded tiers. | |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD | Hurry it up.... Release this so that my FIOS will be upgraded to 30/30 to compete
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join:2004-01-21
Sterling, VA | Re: Hurry it up....
LMAO so true hurry Comcast.
Very hapy with my move from Comcast too FIOS.
I pay currently $52/mo for 20/5. | |
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bshelly
Premium
join:2002-02-17
Schaumburg, IL
clubs:
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| I predict this will cost $99.95 or more in Chicago :( Well, if we ever get this in the Chicago market, Comcast will probably charge us a higher rate just like they do with Blast!
I pay $69.95 with CATV for 16/2 Blast! My guess is that the 22/5 tier will cost 99.95 in Chicago.
I have no idea why a bigger stink hasn't been made about the Chicago market getting screwed with the Blast! pricing. | |
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join:2003-10-25
Midwest | Re: I predict this will cost $99.95 or more in Chicago :( Chicago doesn't get "screwed" with Blast! pricing. It's just that other markets with VZ competition have made that a lower service tier. Also, it won't be $99.95/month when it launches. | |
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Premium
join:2002-02-17
Schaumburg, IL
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1 edit | Re: I predict this will cost $99.95 or more in Chicago :( There are a few areas without Vz's FIOS that pay the Performance Plus price for Blast! 16/2. I read that Comcast did the free bump to Blast! in the bay area? (I think) in response to U-Verse. AT&T has been rolling that out in the Chicago area now for some time. I indeed feel I am getting screwed when others are getting a free bump while I pay. Oh well, I may go Xohm exclusively when it comes here as I can get both a mobile card and home adapter for less than I pay now.
Honestly, I don't need the speed. It was more of a novelty that has since worn off. | |
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@comcast.net | omg Rediculous, I pay 62.95 for 8mbit cable with comcastrate... | |
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Premium
join:2002-02-17
Schaumburg, IL
clubs: | Re: omg Is that with or without Cable TV bundled with Internet? | |
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RailRoadDude
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | said by omgwtfbbq :
Rediculous, I pay 62.95 for 8mbit cable with comcastrate...
We pay $66.95 a month here for the Performance Plus Tier, 8000 down, 2000 up, we don't have cable tv, Directv is our tv provider. The Blast! Tier hasn't made it here yet. | |
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K3
join:2008-05-06
Kankakee, IL
·Comcast
| Re: omg I still pay $79.95/month for Blast plus modem rental, and would still gladly pay $99.95 if that was the price for 22/5, but my guess is the price will be higher than that in the chicagoland area. When Blast first came here it was $84.95/month for me. I can see it easily being $125/month for 22/5 here in Chicago land when its first released. | |
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@comcast.net | 8/2 package will go to 15/3 Just talked to Comcast. Rep told me the 8/2 package will go to 15/3 and it should be happening this week sometime. Sweet!!! | |
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Thank you Comcast