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More on Comcast's New 22Mbps Speed Tier
New tier will cost $62.95 in DOCSIS 3.0 upgraded markets...
Last week an insider told me that in addition to the $150, 50Mbps/5Mbps tier Comcast is deploying in DOCSIS 3.0 upgraded regions, the cable company is planning on unveiling a slower, 22Mbps/5Mbps tier as well. While Comcast will never officially comment on unreleased products, posts to our Comcast forums seem to confirm the upcoming tier, and suggest it will be priced at $62.95 a month. The tier is obviously aimed at competing with Verizon Fios's 20Mbps/5Mpbs tier, which costs $52.99/month when bundled with phone service and $57.99/month solo. Rumors also indicate that Comcast's standard $42.95 per month tier will be upgraded to 12Mbps/2Mbps in all DOCSIS 3.0 markets. Expect a flurry of DOCSIS 3.0 announcements shortly, with Northern New England expected to go live as soon as next week. Comcast has promised 20% of their markets will be upgraded by year's end, with all markets upgraded by the end of 2010.
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pnh102
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So?

What is the monthly usage cap on this tier? Is it still 250GB ?
ctggzg
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USA

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ctggzg

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Re: So?

It shouldn't matter. If I need to download a 250 MB file, it would be nice to get it twice as fast. That doesn't mean I'm going to download ANOTHER 250 MB file just to fill in the time I saved.
Natoma6
join:1999-08-30
Brooklyn, NY

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Re: So?

That's not exactly how it works you know. When you upgraded from dialup to DSL/Cable, did you continue to do only what you did with dialup? Or did you take advantage of services that were tailored for DSL/Cable speeds?

Odds are the latter is true, not the former.

Caps do nothing at all except force users to cease using their connections to their full capabilities.

houkouonchi
join:2002-07-22
Ontario, CA

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I certainly am glad none of my ISPs have caps:

AT&T:

DSL Extreme 1:

DSL Extreme 2:

Charter:


And since this site doesn't like tabs here is an image of my totals:

pandora
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join:2001-06-01
Outland

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Re: So?

You could avoid the Comcast residential caps with a Comcast Business Starter plan. Currently it is $60 a month, at 6/1 but in about a month will double in many places to 12/2.
AstroBoy
join:2008-08-08
Parkville, MD

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said by pnh102:

What is the monthly usage cap on this tier? Is it still 250GB ?
251GB

Cheese
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Naples, FL

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So...

If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2?
iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX

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Re: So...

Looks like it'll be bumped to 22/5. Too bad though...OOL goes faster for less on DOCSIS 2.0.

Cheese
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Naples, FL

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Re: So...

said by iansltx:

Looks like it'll be bumped to 22/5. Too bad though...OOL goes faster for less on DOCSIS 2.0.
Sweet mother of all that is holy, that would be sweet. But since no competition other then Embarq, I don't know when D3 would even be put in place
iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX

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Re: So...

In the same boat here...Qwest territory, and my area (Golden, CO) isn't on the short list of ADSL2+ upgrades. So 5 Mbit is the fastest we have.

What I'm wondering is what'll happen to the 4 Mbit "retention" speed tier...
Corydon
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Re: So...

I have hope that Qwest's recent advertising efforts (that 20 Mbps downstream service they apparently have going to a handful of houses here) will prompt Comcast to puch out DOCSIS 3 here in Colorado. Qwest is trying hard to undercut the Slowskys marketing even if all they can offer in most places is just the old plain Jane DSL.

FrostyMelon
join:2006-02-06
Colorado Springs, CO

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Re: So...

Qwest is up and running in Colorado Springs with their new service, hopefully that gives comcast a poke to do some upgrading with theirs.
nasadude
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said by Cheese:

Sweet mother of all that is holy, that would be sweet. ...
what the heck are you so excited about? everybody knows there is nothing to do with speeds like that (except pirate IP, of course) - all those cable CEOs tell us so.

jasonbounrels
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it is going to go to 16/2 at the same price of 52.95 with tv 62.95 with out. the new 22/5 is going to be extra cost.

MTBikerChris
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said by iansltx:

Looks like it'll be bumped to 22/5. Too bad though...OOL goes faster for less on DOCSIS 2.0.
UH OLL is not available no way near you there so what does it matter?
iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX

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Re: So...

Because OOL proves that you CAN use existing technology to push breakneck internet speeds over normal coax at decent prices, and that Comcast is a slow old juggarnaut lacking in innovation. Sure, OOL is a few thousand miles away, but so is FiOS, and I don't see anyone criticizing anyone else too much when they mention that tech.

dvd536
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said by iansltx:

Looks like it'll be bumped to 22/5. Too bad though...OOL goes faster for less on DOCSIS 2.0.
BOOST is $65.95 isn't it? for 30000 / 5000 (servers allowed, port 80 open!)
no reason why comcast cant do these speeds on D2 if cablevision can.
iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX

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Re: So...

Around here FTP port is open on Comcast, which is cool. Not sure about HTTP though; I run my router webserver over 8081.

OOL Boost is $60-ish for uncapped (30+ Mbps) downloads and 5 Mbps uploads. Verynice.

PaulHikeS2
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said by Cheese:

If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2?
16/2

Cheese
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Re: So...

said by PaulHikeS2:

said by Cheese:

If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2?
16/2
That would be cool too

dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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said by PaulHikeS2:
said by Cheese:

If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2?
16/2
So, what happens to the already 16/2 non-D3 service?

PaulHikeS2
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Re: So...

said by dadkins:
said by PaulHikeS2:
said by Cheese:

If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2?
16/2
So, what happens to the already 16/2 non-D3 service?
I believe it stays the same.

dadkins
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Re: So...

That sucks. Ah well...

Cheese
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said by dadkins:

said by PaulHikeS2:
said by Cheese:

If they bring D3 to here, and they bump up the 42.95, which is 6/1 to 12/2, what's going to happen to the 8/2?
16/2
So, what happens to the already 16/2 non-D3 service?
Yes, what does happen?
88615298 (banned)
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

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Hit your cap in only 26 hours

yippie!

fatmanskinny
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Wandering

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Re: Hit your cap in only 26 hours

My sentiments. Lol!

TSI Gabe
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Actually if you count the upload its a little over 5 hours.

K3
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Re: Hit your cap in only 26 hours

shoulda known we'd get whiners about caps, just use it the same as you do now, just cause speeds get faster doesn't mean you can download more, you just get your files faster, learn some control for a change!! Im sure caps will go up as the speeds get faster but for now 250GB should be plenty enough. Bring on the D3 to Chicagoland!!
Expand your moderator at work

dadkins
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Re: Hit your cap in only 26 hours

said by K3:

shoulda known we'd get whiners about caps, just use it the same as you do now, just cause speeds get faster doesn't mean you can download more, you just get your files faster, learn some control for a change!! Im sure caps will go up as the speeds get faster but for now 250GB should be plenty enough. Bring on the D3 to Chicagoland!!
EXACTLY!
Since the 1500kbps days, my usage is still in the 30GB per month range - even though my speeds are(actual) 17.3mbps now.
The distance to the store is still 15 miles, no matter how fast your bike can go.
Moped/Busa - doesn't matter.

fatmanskinny
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Re: Hit your cap in only 26 hours

Comcast Bottlers currently sell a one-gallon water (data cap per month) bottle with a certain sized hole that allows up to 3 ounces of water to flow out of it per second (rate of data exchange).

All Comcast Bottlers did was offer a newer one-gallon (data cap per month) bottle with a bigger hole that allows up to 16 ounces of water to flow out of it per second (rate of data exchange), charge you more because water flows faster but you still have that one-gallon limit.

With the caps in place, I will just keep with the 3 ounces until I can find a provider where I could get bigger bottles and faster flow of the water.

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Boogeyman
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Back in the 1.5 down days, I had to wait for a min or so before I started watching a movie trailer. So if I wanted to watch a bunch of them, I ended up sitting there for a few hours waiting for them to buffer. Now I can watch 3 trailers in the time it took me to watch one. I can get my entertainment fix in and still have time for other things. But if I want to sit at the pc all day and watch stuff, I can watch 3+ times as many things as before without having to wait for it to buffer.

Remember, a lot of the reasoning for lower consumption before was that it was time prohibative to use more. You may still have the same surfing habbits that you did back in 2000, but many of us have come to utilize that extra speed to be able to do more in the same amount of time. Not just take less time to do the same.

What I find kind of amusing is that back in the day, when sending pics and videos to people, there were always complaints to resize to make it smaller. Now with faster speeds, I dont care if my dad sends me 30 3mb pics. And since more and more people have digital cameras and camcorders, and just as few of them know how to resize or use compression, theres going to be a large increase in traffic just for family photos/drunken jackass videos.

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Dogfather
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Yeah but some people may want to go to more stores with their faster bike.

dnoyeB
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The only reason to go to a tier with more bandwidth is to get large amounts of data faster. If your downloading 10-15MB clips, you don't really need that speed. Going faster can only benefit if you are downloading large amounts of data that would otherwise force you to be idle. So larger cap should go hand in hand with greater bandwidth.
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shoulda known we'd get whiners about caps, just use it the same as you do now, just cause speeds get faster doesn't mean you can download more, you just get your files faster, learn some control for a change!! Im sure caps will go up as the speeds get faster but for now 250GB should be plenty enough. Bring on the D3 to Chicagoland!!
Boy someone has their panties in a wad. I'm hardly whining. I think you lack the sarcasm gene. I'm not even a Comcast customer. And if you actually paid attention I've never been against Comcast's right to have caps. Just the way they are instituting them is the issue. I do however feel to have a cap that only allows one to max out their connection 3%-4% of the time is being disingenuous. Since you pay more for higher speed it's only logical that you should get a higher cap.

Dogfather
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They'll FAP you long before then
papi4baby
join:2008-01-19
Callaway, MD

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Yay for you guys

Must be nice, the fastest i can get is 6/1 for 69.99 no way im paying that, so im stuck with 6/384 for 42
45612019 (banned)
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Good luck with that one, Comcast!

I'm sure tons of people will be jumping ship from FiOS to those lovely 250 GB per month caps...

MalibuMaxx
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Chesterton, IN

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2.6 MB/s

Couldn't even imagine going from 680 kbps to 2.6 MB/s... Kinda a big jump for the 6 meg'ers out there...

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Good new

These speeds are irrevelent if one is surfeing wirelessly because they are limited to the speeds of the wireless router and/or wireless adapter. so all those with routers... keep this in mind
iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX

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Re: Good new

My wireless router can keep up with powerBoost on my current connection, breaking 30 Mbps (Linksys WRT310N) o that isn't a problem...
MightyPez
join:2002-05-01
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Forgive my ignorance

If Comcast upgrades the 6/1 tier in DOCSIS 3.0 markets, does that mean users will need a DOCSIS 3.0 modem to see the 12/2 or can they still use their DOCSIS 2.0 modems?

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spudmanmike
join:2002-11-24
Gales Ferry, CT

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Dont put the money into D3

The heck with the D3, work on HD channel selection first! This is Comcast's weakest point

Johkal
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Johkal

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Insider info.

I hope this wasn't the same source that pointed you to the article on Free Digital TV service initiative. That was a bust since CSR's know nothing about it and employees on the official Comcast forum won't address it.

cypherstream
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No thanks

At that price, the tier looses some value. True that I can hit 22 mbps down with PowerBoost, and 90% of the time my download is done before PowerBoost is over. And for torrents, I've never approached my top 8mbps limit, yet alone could even fathom 22mbps steady.

I'd take it as a free upgrade, but I'm not paying in upwards of $62.95 a month for something that's not that big of an improvement over what I have now.

That's ok though, because my system has no bandwidth available, so we won't see DOCSIS 3.0 anytime soon anyway. There's no other pressure (no Fios, no U-Verse, etc..) so there's no indication of upgrading our 750 MHz system to 1 GHz and using the 870~1GHz band for D3. Without much of an immanent threat, it's Comcast at 8/2 or Verizon DSL at 3meg. I'll take the 8/2, sounds like the best price/performance.

kilometers3
join:2007-01-24
Sacramento, CA

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16mbps with blast is good enough for me.

My downloads are already blazing fast. However, that 5mbps upload is VERY attractive to me. That alone would sell me to the tier.

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sansri88
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Take this with a grain of salt

Comcast CSR said on the phone that 22/5mbps tier is coming effective November 1st for NJ II.

Edit: Retentions said the same thing. Beginning of November notices will be mailed out to customers about the upgraded tiers.

Vamp
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Hurry it up....

Release this so that my FIOS will be upgraded to 30/30 to compete
ANWDREW0
join:2004-01-21
Sterling, VA

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Re: Hurry it up....



LMAO so true hurry Comcast.
Very hapy with my move from Comcast too FIOS.
I pay currently $52/mo for 20/5.
pandora
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Outland

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Thank you Comcast

I'm so happy to read about that my line speed will double at no additional cost to me. Comcast is doing a great job at providing very decent HSI to my family.

Thanks Comcast!
bshelly
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I predict this will cost $99.95 or more in Chicago :(

Well, if we ever get this in the Chicago market, Comcast will probably charge us a higher rate just like they do with Blast!

I pay $69.95 with CATV for 16/2 Blast! My guess is that the 22/5 tier will cost 99.95 in Chicago.

I have no idea why a bigger stink hasn't been made about the Chicago market getting screwed with the Blast! pricing.

Comcablrtl
join:2003-10-25
Midwest

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Re: I predict this will cost $99.95 or more in Chicago :(

Chicago doesn't get "screwed" with Blast! pricing. It's just that other markets with VZ competition have made that a lower service tier. Also, it won't be $99.95/month when it launches.
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Re: I predict this will cost $99.95 or more in Chicago :(

There are a few areas without Vz's FIOS that pay the Performance Plus price for Blast! 16/2. I read that Comcast did the free bump to Blast! in the bay area? (I think) in response to U-Verse. AT&T has been rolling that out in the Chicago area now for some time. I indeed feel I am getting screwed when others are getting a free bump while I pay. Oh well, I may go Xohm exclusively when it comes here as I can get both a mobile card and home adapter for less than I pay now.

Honestly, I don't need the speed. It was more of a novelty that has since worn off.

omgwtfbbq
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omg

Rediculous, I pay 62.95 for 8mbit cable with comcastrate...

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Speed Freak
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8/2 package will go to 15/3

Just talked to Comcast. Rep told me the 8/2 package will go to 15/3 and it should be happening this week sometime. Sweet!!!