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kudos:4 | Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week said by BF69:said by Bit:Pretty cheap, makes you wonder how Cablevision can justifying their $300 we actually don't want anyone to sign up activation fee. Yep because most modems will make many times their cost to the cable company in rental fees. So no "activation" fee is needed. And the activation fee isn't for activating the modem. You can buy and use the SB6120 without a fee if you just use it on the regular speed tiers. The activation fee is if you go on one of the Docsis 3 speed tiers.
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Camden, TN | Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week said by Romney2012:said by BF69:said by Bit:Pretty cheap, makes you wonder how Cablevision can justifying their $300 we actually don't want anyone to sign up activation fee. Yep because most modems will make many times their cost to the cable company in rental fees. So no "activation" fee is needed. And the activation fee isn't for activating the modem. You can buy and use the SB6120 without a fee if you just use it on the regular speed tiers. The activation fee is if you go on one of the Docsis 3 speed tiers. That still doesn't justify it. | |
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kudos:1 | said by BF69:said by Bit:Pretty cheap, makes you wonder how Cablevision can justifying their $300 we actually don't want anyone to sign up activation fee. Yep because most modems will make many times their cost to the cable company in rental fees. So no "activation" fee is needed. Cablevision modems are free rent, there is no line item. | |
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1 edit | Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week Their marketing department is selling a tier their network can't really support, thus they have to price it so high that few would sign up. The insane activation gouge will stop a lot of people from signing up while still allowing their marketing department to splash nations fastest internet service, 101Mb for only $99 advertising all over the place.
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| said by limegrass69:They don't need to justify it. You need to justify it to yourself. If you can't, then stay with the standard or Boost tiers. Well, things could be worse.. they could raise the price of broadband durring the peak season + holidays (March - October, December) the same way they do with gasoline... thats IF $1 a gigabyte for overages isn't enough... /sarcasm
WHAT?!? Why give a greedy industry new ideas to screw over the consumer... I'm just saying if you keep paying the higher prices... eventually you'll get so used to it.. you'll learn to perpetually live in debt they same way the government does.
At which point, can you really have faith in the monetary system?
While we're at it... call & cancel your cable-tv subscription please. Tell 'em Tmc8080 sent you, courtesy of the Comcast & Time Warner price experimentation thread. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week said by tmc8080:Well, things could be worse.. they could raise the price of broadband durring the peak season + holidays (March - October, December) the same way they do with gasoline... thats IF $1 a gigabyte for overages isn't enough... /sarcasm Why would march-oct be peak? Wouldn't the low daylight winter months have more data usage? | |
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kudos:4 | Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week said by travelguy:said by patcat88:Why would march-oct be peak? Wouldn't the low daylight winter months have more data usage? Gak!!! Shades of the old Compuserve twice a year slowdowns. One in September when all colleges started up and a much worse one in January two weeks after Christmas when people figured out how to get their modems from Christmas working. Don't you mean Compu$erve?
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kudos:1 | They can charge whatever they want, $300 is very reasonable. You want 2*T3 speeds for free? prepare to sell all your family's cars for the installation cost for 2 T3s. | |
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00000 | Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week $300 is a rip off and totally unjustified. They are only charging it because their network won't support any decent number of users on that tier.
However in true fraudulent fashion they must be able to promote the misleading $99 advertising.
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| Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week said by Bit:$300 is a rip off and totally unjustified. They are only charging it because their network won't support any decent number of users on that tier. However in true fraudulent fashion they must be able to promote the misleading $99 advertising. Oh, I didn't know Laguna Hills was a Cablevision territory.
Right, it isn't. If you don't have the service, you have absolutely no right to call it a rip off, fraudulent, or misleading. What do you know about their network? Nothing. | |
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3 edits | Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week Of course I can call it a rip off. I don't have to not be offered a rip off to recognize it as a rip off.
You can kiss their ass all you want, but it's absolutely a rip off designed to keep people from signing up while letting the marketing department advertising the $99 price point.
There is ZERO justification for the insane "activation" bullcrap other than this.
And I know enough about DOCSIS 3 to know that it can't support even a moderate number of 100Mb users...PERIOD. Even FiOS with GPON, 3X the capacity of DOCSIS 3 divided by only a small fraction of users compared to CV would have trouble delivering 100Mb service to a large number of users. It's not rocket science, it's basic math.
To the fools out there who haven't realized it yet, this is a marketing gimmick that CV hopes no one signs up for and to help make that happen they charge the bogus $300 "activation" fee.
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| Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week said by Bit:Of course I can call it a rip off. I don't have to not be offered a rip off to recognize it as a rip off. You can kiss their ass all you want, but it's absolutely a rip off designed to keep people from signing up while letting the marketing department advertising the $99 price point. There is ZERO justification for the insane "activation" bullcrap other than this. And I know enough about DOCSIS 3 to know that it can't support even a moderate number of 100Mb users...PERIOD. Even FiOS with GPON, 3X the capacity of DOCSIS 3 divided by only a small fraction of users compared to CV would have trouble delivering 100Mb service to a large number of users. It's not rocket science, it's basic math. To the fools out there who haven't realized it yet, this is a marketing gimmick that CV hopes no one signs up for and to help make that happen they charge the bogus $300 "activation" fee. For all you know (because you don't live here), they only allow one DOCSIS 3 user per node.
But you don't know, because you're not here. You're on the other side of the country.
Cablevision has proven themselves to be competitive. They are in the wealthiest territory in the US, and play hardball.
I'm not kissing anyone's ass - I have CV's Internet service, but DirecTV's television service. I don't think everything they do is perfect (not a fan of their TV service), but what I do know is that my BOOST service (30 down / 5 up) works perfectly, at full speed, and the few times I've had an issue, they've been resolved /same day/. That's the same service that was called a gimmick, unsustainable and all that when it came out too.
You can't say that because you're 3,000 miles away. Stick to what you know - Cablevision's operating model isn't it. | |
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00000 | Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week No genius, I know the capacity of DOCSIS 3 and know that CV will never allocate enough channel space to support a lot of 100Mb bonded users.
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| Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week said by Bit:No genius, I know the capacity of DOCSIS 3 and know that CV will never allocate enough channel space to support a lot of 100Mb bonded users. Same argument as when BOOST was introduced. It was wrong then, and wrong now.
Just that you know how DOCSIS works, doesn't mean you know their specific bandwidth allocation plans.
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4 edits | Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week Yeah and the same limitations that force cable operators to use powerboost gimmicks to deliver 30Mb service because DOCSIS 1 and 2 topology won't support lot of simultaneous 30Mb subscribers is the same reason DOCSIS 3 can't support lots of 100Mb users.
And even with providers like CV who advertise continuous DOCSIS 1.1+ 30Mb service, can't deliver it to all their BOOST users all the time, their actual throughput depends on other local user traffic. BOOST is simply uncapped service and 30-33Mb is all one can reasonably expect from a DOCSIS channel. All DOCSIS 3 does is permit channel bonding, it does nothing to alleviate the actual per channel capacity bottleneck currently granted under DOCSIS 2 nor does it increase nodal capacity. This isn't a "this Cali guy doesn't like CV" thing...this is a simple DOCSIS math thing.
If Cablevision was dedicating enough 6MHz channels to HSI everyone would be seeing their tiered caps all the time and they don't.
You should read a bit about how DOCSIS works before touting cablevision 100Mb greatness. Whether next door or 3000 miles away, the challenges facing cablevision and other DOCSIS 3 operators is the same. The pre-cert DOCSIS 3 spec doesn't change with geography genius and there are only so many channels they can dedicate to HSI.
They can not support a lot of users on this tier, period. That is why they're charging a cost prohibitive activation fee, so that few if any sign up while allowing them to put up the "fastest broadband in America for $99" posters.
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| Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week said by Bit:Yeah and the same limitations that force cable operators to use powerboost gimmicks to deliver 30Mb service because DOCSIS 1 and 2 topology won't support lot of simultaneous 30Mb subscribers is the same reason DOCSIS 3 can't support lots of 100Mb users. See, that's where the distance thing comes in ... Cablevision *has no* powerboost "gimmicks"... Their infrastructure does support their 30mbps tier.
Are there issues? Of course. There were some significant ones during the DOCSIS 3 prepwork. It's not due to a poor network or overzealous sales, but just an issue that cropped up. It's been solved.
9/10ths of the issues people have with BOOST are due to bad cabling, splitters, etc.
It's NOT a bandwidth issue. It's NOT a capacity bottleneck.
It's all in the network design. CV has some of the most significant backbone capacity anywhere. Last-mile stuff (node-to-house) can be taken care of with node splits and additional equipment. It can be (and is) done every day.
If you're active in network management and do it well, you can absolutely support quite a few DOCSIS 3 users in a particular area.
It's not easy, and it doesn't happen by magic. But it CAN be done, and I have confidence that if anyone can pull it off, it'll be CV. | |
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2 edits | Re: I saw these at Compuplus last week Sorry, read it again, I didn't say Cablevision used powerboost, I was speaking directly to DOCSIS channel capacity limitations which like all cable operators do, Cablevision certainly has.
Again, you need to understand how cable topology works. Cable's bottlenecks are rarely if ever backbone connectivity. Is it nearly always nodal capacity issues where you have a lot of users sharing channel capacity in the last mile.
DOCSIS 3 does not increase channel capacity nor does it increase the overall number of 6MHz channels (out of the 750MHz or if upgraded like Cox is trying to do, 1GHz) CV dedicates to HSI. It merely allows cable to bond existing channels together so that they can deliver more than 38Mb to an individual user who before DOCSIS 3 could only use 1 channel (which is why Boost is 30Mb, cause that is about the max you typically see from an unused channel).
It is still the same shared topology where you have a limited number of 6MHz channels being shared by hundreds of users. And to be clear, the "node" isn't the bottleneck, it is how many channels the cable operator dedicates to HSI and with 100Mb service taking nearly 3 channels of bandwidth for a single user, it is obvious to ANYONE that a cable provider can't support a more than just a couple of local 100Mb users on a node. There just isn't that much available bandwidth. Cable HSI capacity can be improved by SDV, ditching analog, moving from 750Mhz to 1GHz, with the freed capacity going to additional HSI channels. But that can only go so far, especially with these operators adding HD networks and HD PPV offerings hand over fist. A 6MHz channel can carry an analog video channel, 6-10 digital SD channels, or 2-3 HD channels. That is valuable real estate. Cable offers a lot of video and streaming (on demand) content in this limited spectrum, not allowing them to just give HSI all they want. To even begin supporting 100Mb they would need to completely ditch analog video and put that capacity to HSI.
And 100Mb isn't difficult for just cable. GPON offers Verizon 3X DOCSIS 3 bonded capacity and is shared by only a small fraction of users (homes 32-64 homes, even fewer subscribers), and they couldn't support 100Mb service to a more than a couple of local users at a time.
Cablevision MUST have a way of insuring that only a very tiny fraction of users go for this 100Mb deal and their solution is the bullcrap activation fee. It accomplishes 2 things, first to dissuade people from signing up. Second it allows their marketing department to splash $99 all over the place.
You, I suppose think they could support lots of users buying this tier but we will never know because they instituted a pricing policy that insures that very few will bite.
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I think what most people expect from a national retailer is to have one within a few hours drive of them regardless of where they live in the continental USA. That isn't likely to happen with a Frys unless they get a big influx of cash and decide to take on Best Buy. That pretty much rules out Microcenter since they are even more computer focused than Frys. I don't think either of these companies want to risk expanding too fast and ending up like Compusa. | |
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1 edit | Re: not news! said by klcoll:I bought one at Fry's in Tempe AZ 3-4 months ago, Moto is months behind with this "news". At the time it was $119.95, they've since dropped the price after they no doubt gathered dust initially. Nobody locally is even offering DOCSIS 3.0 yet. I talked Cox into provisioning the thing, even though they don't officially support it and the tech had no option on their system to provision it. I coaxed him into calling it a 5120 on their network, and it has worked fine since, even bonding 2 upstream channels. Speed is about 25 mbits, same as I was getting on my old cheeseball Linksys modem. No, they do support the 6120 now.. please check there modem support page again. it has been added there for about 2 weeks or so now. So Cox can provision them modems now. | |
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1 edit | Re: question said by bobytt:I was wondering is this modem help for better speeds and work on older docsis version? Any advantage if i am still at 2.0 and use this modem? yes this modem is backwards compatible, and will work on docsis 1.x and 2.0. As for better speeds, if your area is using channel bonding yet then yes most likely, and you might see some speed increases if your provider uses powerboost or whatever. But there is no promise to faster speeds till your running on a d3 area, but this modem will be good for the next 5 years atleast. | |
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kudos:1 | said by lilstone87:yes this modem is backwards compatible, and will work on docsis 1.x and 2.0. As for better speeds, if your area is using channel bonding yet then yes most likely, and you might see some speed increases if your provider uses powerboost or whatever. But there is no promise to faster speeds till your running on a d3 area, but this modem will be good for the next 5 years atleast. I can't see why there would be a speed increase. Why would a DOCSIS 1 or 2 tier config file have multiple channels that on paper no modem can support? who in corporate authorized such a descision?
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| Re: question said by patcat88:said by lilstone87:yes this modem is backwards compatible, and will work on docsis 1.x and 2.0. As for better speeds, if your area is using channel bonding yet then yes most likely, and you might see some speed increases if your provider uses powerboost or whatever. But there is no promise to faster speeds till your running on a d3 area, but this modem will be good for the next 5 years atleast. I can't see why there would be a speed increase. Why would a DOCSIS 1 or 2 tier config file have multiple channels that on paper no modem can support? who in corporate authorized such a descision? Cable modems are the slaves of the CMTS, you and the manufacturer have no control, and don't put in any special features over the cable modem. Seriously.. I never said once that you would see speed increases, i said maybe, and when i say that maybe there ISP might be testing D3 so they might see some speed increases in this case. But never once did i say yes buy this modem it will give you better speeds, because it wont on a D2 or lower.
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kudos:3 | Save your money... ...Moto can keep their 6120 modem. After 3 of them and constant drops of sync and drops of channel bonding, I got tired of it and moved to an S/A modem. The SB6120 over heats too much and causes too many problems.. I personally don't think it's ready for prime time and certainly not for a consumer to want to buy it on their own.
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| Re: Save your money... said by fiberguy:...Moto can keep their 6120 modem. After 3 of them and constant drops of sync and drops of channel bonding, I got tired of it and moved to an S/A modem. The SB6120 over heats too much and causes too many problems.. I personally don't think it's ready for prime time and certainly not for a consumer to want to buy it on their own. I think I'd wait for a revision, second model, or S/A to release theirs to market before dropping a penny on this and owning the problem. Well i think what your talking about was fixed with lastest firmware, it was a firmware issue, and not what yoru thinking it was. Alot of people was having these dropouts on connection and freezing of connection, and after they released the lastest firmware.. this issue was addressed. Btw Motorola has always been known for good quality modems, and i dont think this problem has anything to do with the modem itself, its just a bad firmware they used to release the modem with. | |
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Suffern, NY | Re: Save your money... said by lilstone87:said by fiberguy:...Moto can keep their 6120 modem. After 3 of them and constant drops of sync and drops of channel bonding, I got tired of it and moved to an S/A modem. The SB6120 over heats too much and causes too many problems.. I personally don't think it's ready for prime time and certainly not for a consumer to want to buy it on their own. I think I'd wait for a revision, second model, or S/A to release theirs to market before dropping a penny on this and owning the problem. Well i think what your talking about was fixed with lastest firmware, it was a firmware issue, and not what yoru thinking it was. Alot of people was having these dropouts on connection and freezing of connection, and after they released the lastest firmware.. this issue was addressed. Btw Motorola has always been known for good quality modems, and i dont think this problem has anything to do with the modem itself, its just a bad firmware they used to release the modem with. There is only one GOTCHA with the need for the new firmware. Unless it is ALREADY in the modem you purchase (which depends on how old the firmware is and how old the modem you just purchased is - it could have been manufactured before the new firmware) the only way to get it is to have it pushed by your ISP. Unless they support it as a SB6120 (and thus have the new firmware) you will be out of luck. | |
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Virginia Beach, VA | Re: Save your money... What's the upgraded version? They added the 6120 to our provisioning system on Cox a while ago, and my modem diagnostic system has "Moto_SB6120-1.0.1.7-SCM00-NOSH-NNDMN_C_090401.bin" available as an option to upload to a CPE modem.
As far as I know, we all use the same list for equipment on the billing system (though there are regional cable receiver models so I could be wrong), and I'm certain that we all have the same modem diagnostic (and firmware upload) system because I'm in Norfolk VA and I can see modems in California. | |
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| Re: When is the SBV6220 coming out? said by cypherstream:I have triple play service. I'd rather have the internet and voice come over the same modem (less splits on the cable line = better signal). When will one be able to purchase an SBV6220 or even rent one for that matter? I dont think you will be able to buy one online or retail, only way you will be able to get one is if your internet/phone company starts using there modems, and you get one that way. Btw if you do happen to get one.. then your most likely gunna be SOL because your ISP wont support it, and if they do they will give you one of theres. | |
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| Re: DOCSIS said by burgerwars:Any advantage of waiting until DOCSIS 4.0 comes out? Uh well with 3.0 taken care of speeds for awhile, only thing you might see with 4.0 and thats probably atleast 5 years down the road, is some tweaks to the 3.0 and maybe a few security changes. | |
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| Re: Please hang on to your reciepts! said by ComcastRated :
Especially you early buyers who may have had your modem provisiond as a leased modem by accident.
Don't let this become a hassle later.
Well you do get a 2 year manufacturer warranty, so if the modem is messed up, there in all rights of fixing it. Anyways the issue with this modem has been with the older firmware thats the ISP's have been pushing to everyone using these modems, But now Motorola has released a new firmware, and that has taken care of the known problem everyone has been having. | |
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Motorola makes excellent modems very few problems compared to other makes out there.
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Hanover, PA | Re: finally, but This can only bond 4 channels anyway. | |
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| Re: finally, but said by Da Man:This can only bond 4 channels anyway. Whats your point? All the D3 only bond up to 4 channels each Up and Down. | |
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| | |  Chris 313Come get somePremium
join:2004-07-18
Houma, LA
·AT&T U-Verse
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| Re: finally, but said by lilstone87:said by Da Man:This can only bond 4 channels anyway. Whats your point? All the D3 only bond up to 4 channels each Up and Down. At least until revisions to hardware and chipsets come out, then it's up to 8 channels. There has been a chipset by Broadcom, I believe, that was natively 8 channel.
We probably won't need to see this until 2010 or later, though. | |
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| | | | | | Re: finally, but Here is the problem with that, the CMTS systems can only bond 4 channels, and the cable companies who are currently installing them for the Docsis 3.0 rollout are NOT going to be replacing this expensive devices for quite a while. | |
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 CajunTekInsane CajunPremium,MVM
join:2003-08-08
Arlington, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| Buy two or three or six.. I want all you guys to run out and buy one. at Fry's or Amazon or whereever.. In fact by two. or ten.. please..
(Nope I don't work for Motorola... I do make the chipset for these though  )
This little beast is turning things around for us. So keep it up.. Buy 'em!!!!
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dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Ah Fry's electronics Land of "open box"
good luck EVER finding something that hasn't touched someone elses grubbies first.
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