Music Industry Wants UK Website Filters Expanded Wants ISPs to Block Fenopy, H33t, and Kickass Torrents Wednesday Oct 24 2012 14:33 EDT Though most users are easily able to bypass the filters in place, the entertainment industry is asking the UK government to expand the list of websites filtered by the country's ISPs. According to CNET, the UK equivalent of the RIAA, the British Phonographic Industry (BPI), is now requesting that UK ISPs filter user access to Fenopy, H33t, and Kickass Torrents. Most ISPs are saying they'll only filter the websites if ordered to do so by the UK government, which was the case for The Pirate Bay. Meanwhile, given these filters are usually DNS-based, they're fairly easy for anyone to bypass by using third-party DNS services. The focus on the new websites will likely act to draw more users to those websites, in turn increasing their popularity. A game of Whac-a-Mole, anyone? |
  KeepOnRockinMusic Lover Forever
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UselessBlocking access to specific websites does little to deter piracy as there are many others serving the same content and filters can be bypassed.
The BPI should focus their efforts on the individual pirates that share the content. With lawsuits, being disconnected by their ISPs, and making an example out of some people will help get the point across not to break copyright laws. | |
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Re: Uselesssaid by KeepOnRockin:Blocking access to specific websites does little to deter piracy as there are many others serving the same content and filters can be bypassed. True... said by KeepOnRockin:The BPI should focus their efforts on the individual pirates that share the content. With lawsuits, being disconnected by their ISPs, and making an example out of some people will help get the point across not to break copyright laws.
Not true. I think the Joel Tenenbaum and Jamie Thomas-Rasset cases are more than enough evidence to support that this does as much to deter the online sharing of content as the death penalty does to deter crime. | |
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Re: Uselessso true. The RIAA tried the scorched earth tactic, and all it did was give more publicity to those they were trying to crush, all while making the RIAA seem like douchbags in the process. No one that I talk to agrees with the Thomas-Rasset decision and amount, since those songs could easily been had for about $1.00 each, and for that, they cannot really prove how many times they were downloaded either, so its just a number the RIAA pulled out of their ass and hoped it stuck. Also, they will never get a penny out of either tenenbaum or rasset because they are both poor, and once they file bankruptcy, the judgement is amount matters not. Seriously, all the RIAA did is make itself more enemies. | |
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Hmm, never heard of fenopy, thanks ! | |
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Re: UselessStreisand Effect. | |
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Fenopy, H33t, and Kickass should give BPI a thumbs upI never hear of these before, granted I don't torrent, but as stated this only brings their names to the front of the minds of people who torrent.
The the BPI and RIAA should do is market a good product at a reasonable price and adapt to a digital world. The sad thing is the artists have figured out that they don't need a label any more. Which mean they don't need the BPI or the RIAA. | |
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Re: Fenopy, H33t, and Kickass should give BPI a thumbs upsaid by Kilroy: The sad thing is the artists have figured out that they don't need a label any more. Which mean they don't need the BPI or the RIAA.
The even sadder part, is that artists trying to get away from the RIAA usually cannot even perform or sing their own songs because the RIAA strips them of their copyrights(even tho they sing it), and in some cases, trademarks their voice, and sues the artist themself for performing it outside the "label". The RIAA is nothing but a bunch of crooked greedy old men who fear change. | |
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Re: Fenopy, H33t, and Kickass should give BPI a thumbs upsaid by Chubbysumo:The even sadder part, is that artists trying to get away from the RIAA usually cannot even perform or sing their own songs because the RIAA strips them of their copyrights(even tho they sing it), and in some cases, trademarks their voice, and sues the artist themself for performing it outside the "label". The RIAA is nothing but a bunch of crooked greedy old men who fear change.
Can you provide an example of this? While it wouldn't surprise me, I did a Google search for "artist sued for performing own song" and fould nothing relevent to your claim. I would think I would have heard of something like this. | |
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Re: Fenopy, H33t, and Kickass should give BPI a thumbs upsaid by PaulHikeS2:said by Chubbysumo:The even sadder part, is that artists trying to get away from the RIAA usually cannot even perform or sing their own songs because the RIAA strips them of their copyrights(even tho they sing it), and in some cases, trademarks their voice, and sues the artist themself for performing it outside the "label". The RIAA is nothing but a bunch of crooked greedy old men who fear change.
Can you provide an example of this? While it wouldn't surprise me, I did a Google search for "artist sued for performing own song" and fould nothing relevent to your claim. I would think I would have heard of something like this. Perhaps not, but it is incredibly hard to break away from labels since they try their hardest to own the copyrights to all produced music under their label. This works in the same sense that an engineer can not claim a patent on a product developed using company time. » www.prefixmag.com/news/r ··· r/55387/» www.wisegeek.com/who-own ··· song.htm | |
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never heard of those beforeBut this is some of the best press those 3 torrent sites could have, an endorsement by the BPI | |
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The Solution.Follow the money...
Which is going to be tough, because unless you are selling bootlegged/copied media where does the money come from?
Pirates don't pay to download this stuff... They pay in other ways but that's another rant.
The issue that these companies have is that piracy is a magical market share in which RIAA/MPAA/BPI believe that every downloaded song/movie is a 100% loss on a sale. | |
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