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Remote oven control courtesy of Comcast?
by Karl Bode Tuesday 29-Jan-2008 tags: competition · business · alternatives · networking
It's pretty clear at this point that broadband providers are terrified of becoming "dumb pipe" providers, and are constantly on the hunt for new forms of revenue. In addition to the triple (and occasionally quadruple) play, carriers are now selling homes and cars. Many, like Comcast, are getting heavily into the Internet content game. Telephony Online thinks the next big thing ISPs will be getting into is home automation.

Where I see the role of the telco here is primarily on the software and services layer, providing a platform to broker communications and control signals between and amongst devices in the home. This fits well into the three screens concept (TV, browser, mobile phone) that all carriers have been pushing for a while – allowing their customers to control devices and services in their home locally on the TV/set top box interface, and anywhere using a PC or mobile device.

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Of course we've been reading about how our smart refrigerator could SMS us needed groceries over broadband since broadband began, and so far such projects have only seen limited deployment in upscale developments. We remember writing about BellSouth smart home deployments in 2003 that never went anywhere.

One company we know is at least considering it is Verizon, who'll be offering a product called "Homewave" sometime this year that could lay the foundation for FiOS home automation services. Since they're already building home internal networks (in Verizon's case via MOCA) for entertainment, we assume they'll ultimately want to push as many services as possible (once they get this whole TV and billing thing down).

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newview
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The LAST thing I would ever consider . . .

is Comcast controlling ANY aspect of my home automation.
quote:
Remote oven control courtesy of Comcast?
I would fully expect my house to burn down.

BabyBear
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Re: The LAST thing I would ever consider . . .

said by newview:

is Comcast controlling ANY aspect of my home automation.
quote:
Remote oven control courtesy of Comcast?
I would fully expect my house to burn down.
Or even worse, remote code execution flaws in your oven control. My oven has been rootkitted!

Maybe AT&T can bring back the "You will" commericals.

PhoenixDown
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Comcast got tired of the bad PR that came from tech's burning down people's garages so now there going to let the software do it instead!
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said by newview:

I would fully expect my house to burn down.
And you would be charged a "flame fee".
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S_engineer
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Re: The LAST thing I would ever consider . . .

They'll come and extinguish it two weeks from now between the hours of 8 and 12. But if you do not answer the phone when the Comcrap fire dept. is within 40 miles, you'll have to reschedule!
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MysticGogeta
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You will be charged many fees including a oven fee, fridge fee, burning your house down fee, increasing your power bill fee etc etc..
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said by RadioDoc:

And you would be charged a "flame fee".
Actually, it's the phone companies that are famous for charging the extra fees.
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Of Course They're Terrified!

It's what the customer wants! If past practices are any indication, companies like Comcast will ignore what the customer wants and continue to try to find money elsewhere. Only to find what the customer wants is for Comcast to stay the hell out of the way.

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I miss my WISP

My old WISP may have only given me 512/512, but it was reliable as hell, absolutely no caps, throttling or port blocking, and the stupidest of dumb pipes. And, I usually got just over 600/600, and NEVER below the advertised 512/512.

It may have been slow, but other than that, it was perfect.
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{dreaming}

Another vote for a very "dumb", stable, and metered-use pipe plus simple, clear, up-to-date tech docs on a website.

Move around alot and it's all I've ever wanted and never got. Would love to deal with a company which sticks to one service and does it right.

{/dreaming}

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DSL Reports (Karl) - The Business Analyst Expert ;-)

I wouldn't call it terrified.. I would call it not being stupid.

Karl, if companies followed what you want them to do they would fail miserably. Creating a 1 trick pony is just plain bad for business. Dumb pipe is just plain dumb. New revenue is surprisingly required to increase speeds and address increase usage.

Verizon / Telco shouldn't go into TV?
Cable shouldn't have done triple play?
Level3 shouldn't have gone in the CDN business?

That said.. Perhaps you should continue with your bias news posting expert business logic.

Please tell Apple to stop selling IPODs and get back into the Mac focus

Please tell Google to stop creating Internet apps and infrastructure to get back to Search only

Please tell Mitsubishi to stop doing... everything

Please tell DSL Reports to get back to DSL only

Plllleeeeesssseeeee...... let it go

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Re: DSL Reports (Karl) - The Business Analyst Expert ;-)

I totally agree with Karl. If the telcos would allow competition then I have no problem with them offering as many products as they want. However that's not their business model. Their business model is forced bundling. You can have broadband, but only if you agree to bundle it with a phone line, long distance, television....

There's something wrong with a company having the soul rights to a pipe and then selling what goes through them. What if your states highway department was privatized and they said every road is a toll road. And by the way, we also sell gas, tires and oil and we're bundling that with the toll prices. Of course you can always fly, so there is competition.

en102
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I do tend to agree that companies, where possible, should leverage their infrastructure to offer low cost/high profit revenue streams.. its pretty logical, in fact that's what most most management/analysts have to do.

I personally wouldn't want any 'corporate' entity controlling my lights/heat/water/fridge/stove, etc.
They would have to pay me to have access to my devices.. as I'm sure that they would collect data, and sell it off to data miners.
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I wonder

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Bandwidth

These ISPs keep sending out horrors that there isn't enough bandwidth and so they create traffic shaping, caps, and other means to save bandwidth, But yet, they keep creating more stuff to use bandwidth on. That kinda confuses me.

Tzale
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Stupidity.

It's so stupid... ISPs should do what they do (or should do) best, giving me the advertised bandwidth for a fair price... I'm sick of hearing ISPs selling homes or cars or other BS...
When will companies learn that they can't be the best at everything? Frigging Walmart failed with the online video service and now they're advertising Walmart Pizza... Do they really need to compete in that market too?

-Tzale
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CAPS!!

there goes the caps, we will be going over them. maybe with docsis 3 there will be no caps
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IMO

ISPs should concentrate their efforts on making the best out of their internet service. Companies spreading out to services not directly related is never a good sign.

About home automation... DIY all the way! Well, not everyone can do that of course but personally I'd never spend money on an automation system if I can DIY.

Tzale
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Re: IMO

said by TheMG:

ISPs should concentrate their efforts on making the best out of their internet service. Companies spreading out to services not directly related is never a good sign.

About home automation... DIY all the way! Well, not everyone can do that of course but personally I'd never spend money on an automation system if I can DIY.
Exactly... Plus it's fun! I've never done it and I don't see a need for it, but clearly it would be fun if I needed it and had the money to do it.

-Tzale
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salahx

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Comcast actually DOES have home security

Unknown to most, Comcast actually DOES have a home security division: »www.comcasthomesecurity.com . The "inherited" from Road Runner Houston, as part of the Adelphia deal and the Time-Warner region swaps.
Fishie

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Rebirth of AOL?

This sounds like the rebirth of AOL and their Portal service.

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