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NBC Declares 'Six Strikes' a Success, Offers No Evidence, Stats
by Karl Bode 08:56AM Thursday Apr 03 2014
A little more than a year ago, most of the large ISPs joined a new anti-piracy initiative crafted by the entertainment industry dubbed the Copyright Alert System. In CAS, users are given warning letters for copyright infringement as has long been industry practice, but ISPs will also give users a slap on the wrist for the behavior, ranging from brief filtering of websites (until users agree to receipt of "educational" material) to temporary throttling.

At the one year mark of the program the Center for Copyright Information, which operates the program, declared the CAS a rousing success -- despite offering no meaningful data or statistics. NBC Universal lawyer Rick Cotton, speaking this week at an event by the Copyright Clearance Center, stated the program only just got up to full speed, while again reiterating that CAS has been a great success at stopping piracy:
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A U.S. Chamber of Commerce official stated on Wednesday that an anti-piracy program involving major internet service providers is now in full effect, more than a year after news of the so-called Copyright Alert System was first reported.

“The last year has been a ramp-up … March is the first month those [notices] are going out to full capacities,” said Rick Cotton, speaking at a copyright event in New York....Cotton claimed the scheme has reduced piracy, but declined to provide specific details such as how many times the ISPs have taken action against their subscribers.
How many people have been warned? What's the exact nature of the reduction in piracy? How many people have been falsely accused of piracy, shelled out the obligatory $35 to have the accusation reversed, and succeeded or failed? Again, there's absolutely zero transparency behind the program, so nobody gets to know. Consumers might be interested in these details since they're paying for it; ISPs pass on the cost of compliance to you.

It's also worth reiterating that most BitTorrent aficionados have long since simply switched to using VPNs or proxies to hide themselves from the prying eyes of their ISPs, something that would appear to outside analysis to be a reduction in piracy rates. Most ISPs I spoke to privately pre-launch knew most users would skirt the system; ultimately the entertainment industry will inevitably try to expand the system further to address this. Having at least some actual data on the program before this happens might be a good idea.

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Camelot One
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NBC's claim is probably very true

NBC's lineup hasn't been good enough to even waste the bandwidth, so I have no doubt a single warning letter is all it takes to convince most people to drop those downloads.

But I'm not sure you can call that a success.

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Re: NBC's claim is probably very true

said by Camelot One:

NBC's lineup hasn't been good enough to even waste the bandwidth, so I have no doubt a single warning letter is all it takes to convince most people to drop those downloads.

But I'm not sure you can call that a success.

I agree 100%. The only network I watch with any semi regularity is CBS. I find nothing on ABC or NBC to be entertaining (to me) any longer. I miss the 70's when ABC ruled the airwaves or the 1990's when NBC ruled. These days, I get more entertainment watching reruns of Emergency!, Quincy, Columbo, Banacek and Fraiser, to name a few, on Netflix.
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Seriously?

LMAO.

What a load of crap.

Blob

EDIT:
As in the Six Strike goons claims are a Load of Crap. Not your article Karl

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Re: Seriously?

Karl thinks that everyone that Pirates sees his constant RECOMMENDATIONS to utilize VPN's, and that warning letters have not stopped a single person from Pirating. Cmon, not even a single one? ..... Because "success" can be measured with varying magnitudes.
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Re: Seriously?

Ha! I almost tried to blow off the little insect on my screen until I noticed it was your pic!

ITALIAN926

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Re: Seriously?

Yea, it would be awesome if the box wasnt outlined.
en103

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I agree. What is their definition of success?
Was it that the project was deployed on time and under budget ?
Success on their part may even be a result of something else which made them look good.

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said by ITALIAN926:

Because "success" can be measured with varying magnitudes.

Indeed. Reducing a flood flow from 105,000 cfs to a mere 100,000 cfs can be declared some magnitude of, "success" (but the levee still broke).

Interestingly, I have stopped pirating anime. Not that I ever received a C&D letter, or a strike; rather, the rationale for my piracy disappeared as anime became more widely available.

anon_anon

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So now they don't need SOPA?

Since six strikes is proven to be so successful, they don't need any more draconian copyright enforcement legislation right? Nah, they are just going to get every key provision of SOPA enacted via the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Wilsdom

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Full disclosure

It's really Comcast that is monitoring connections and bullying its customers, since NBC is just a Comcast brand

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Hmmm...

SNL seems to be widely available on the internet, as do all there other "shows"

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streaming content boxes are the real hero

I'm a p2p/vpn pirate that bought a roku3 box and now legitimately streams 80% of what i used to torrent - so it had nothing to do with this 6 strikes nonsense.
if the industry would get it's head out of it's geezer butt then innovate and improve their distribution system some more, that is what would retire most pirates.
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So lame

It's almost painful to watch the entertainment industry dying. Almost.

nothing00

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Re: So lame

said by deadzoned:

It's almost painful to watch the entertainment industry dying. Almost.

I think it's the most entertaining thing they've done!

Probitas

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Still waiting on a false accusation

Wondering what happens when someone gets told they did wrong, realizes they did not, and decides to sue for wrongful prosecution and as well for rights violations as they have not legally been convicted of a crime at all. Or been offered the opportunity to face the accuser in a court at all prior to being punished. Or having to pay for their own defense on trumped up charges.

Someone somewhere has to have the coin to follow through on that.

BlackBeard

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Success? Really?

I have yet to receive any letters from any organization regarding piracy, and I have not stopped pirating anything. I don't use a VPN, proxy, or tor either. I use TPB frequently.

LOL @ CAS

diablo1892
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Re: Success? Really?

Do you use peerblocker? (»peerblock.com/)

davidc502

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I think they are just after the big pirates running with impunity. It doesn't seem worth it to go after the small fish.

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Re: Success? Really?

said by davidc502:

I think they are just after the big pirates running with impunity. It doesn't seem worth it to go after the small fish.

I have to disagree with you david. I'm very certain their after the ones that make profit from it. You shouldn't be the one making money from it, the actual creator of whatever it is, should be the one making money from it, so your stealing the creators work plus stealing their money.

I don't put a cost on anything that I would pirate and sell to a friend. If someone wants something, they get it totally free of charge. If there would be a cost, thats just not fair for that person because that person could just instead hop online and get it himself, so no I myself do not pirate and sell for profit, i give it away (100% free).
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Re: Success? Really?

I'm sorry, I missed your point on what you disagree with.

Are you saying that people that are stealing, and are making money from it are not "big fish"? Or are you saying people making money are also the "small fish", and they are being sought after as well?

P.S. Are you talking about my comment about impunity? Just in case -- »www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impunity

Thanks,

David

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Re: Success? Really?

said by davidc502:

P.S. Are you talking about my comment about impunity?

My apologizes for any confusion on that. I was referring to your second sentence.

said by davidc502:

Are you saying that people that are stealing, and are making money from it are not "big fish"? Or are you saying people making money are also the "small fish", and they are being sought after as well?

I'm not sure how to respond on this one.. I only know that making money from something you stole is illegal. Stealing is a crime, yes but does anyone care?(if it's pirated data) No. They only care when you start making profit from something that was stolen. Giving away something stolen is not a crime because no money is evolved so therefore only making money from something you didn't have to spend money on to earn it is illegal and a crime.

said by diablo1892:

I'm very certain their after the ones that make profit from it. You shouldn't be the one making money from it, the actual creator of whatever it is, should be the one making money from it, so your stealing the creators work plus stealing their money.

Here, I am describing the "big fish".

said by diablo1892:

I don't put a cost on anything that I would pirate and sell to a friend. If someone wants something, they get it totally free of charge. If there would be a cost, thats just not fair for that person because that person could just instead hop online and get it himself, so no I myself do not pirate and sell for profit, i give it away (100% free).

Here I am describing "little fish". (like myself for an example)

I hope this clears up the misunderstanding. Have a good day.
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Re: Success? Really?

Thank you. I understand your point better now.

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Re: Success? Really?

No problems here either, and for good reason. I don't go for mainstream entertainment at all. Instead, I watch fringe stuff (and by that I mean stuff that hardly anyone cares for). I also don't need any kind of filtering or proxy; Usenet gives me all I need - and will continue to do so for as long as it exists. And when it (and the internet as well) goes down for good, I'll simply go back to sneaker.net >;)

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