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NFL Talked With Microsoft, Google About Streaming NFL Games
by Karl Bode 08:36AM Thursday Sep 04 2014
The Wall Street Journal again confirms that the NFL did hold talks with Google and Microsoft about the possibility of offering NFL game streaming over the Internet, but nothing so far has come of those talks. The NFL and DirecTV are rumored to be putting the finishing touches on an extension of DirecTV's controversial exclusive Sunday Ticket arrangement to offer out of market NFL games.

From the sound of the report -- the Google and Microsoft talks may have been geared largely toward getting DirecTV to sign off on a 30-40% rate hike on the deal (estimated to be between $1.3 billion and $1.4 billion):
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The talks came as DirecTV was showing reluctance about the NFL's demands for a big rate increase. The satellite TV provider's finance chief said at an investor conference that DirecTV could walk away from Sunday Ticket if the asking price was too high.

The NFL's conversations with Google were serious. Mr. Goodell also reached out to Steve Ballmer, Microsoft's chief executive at the time, to gauge his interest, one of the people says...(Microsoft) concluded that it was hard to see how the company could make money on Sunday Ticket, the person said.
The NFL is taking (tiny) baby steps toward being a more progressive league (like the MLB) when it comes to game streaming. For the first time ever Fox Sports will stream around 101 NFL games this season, though they'll only be in-market games, won't be available on mobile phones, and in accordance with the industry's rigid "TV Everywhere" mindset, will only be viewable if you already have a traditional cable subscription.

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dvd536
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rate hike?

its already EXTREMELY overpriced!
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Joe12345678

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Des Plaines, IL

download caps and bandwith likey killed that idea also sports bars want some

download caps and bandwidth likely killed that idea also sports bars want something that is easy as well having all the other channels as well.
78036364

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Re: download caps and bandwith likey killed that idea also sports bars want some

caps and bandwidth don't effect MLB.TV and they have more than 10X as many games.
Skippy25

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Hazelwood, MO

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Re: download caps and bandwith likey killed that idea also sports bars want some

Sure they do or the ISP's are violating an open network by partnering with them.

kdwycha

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Riverview, FL

So..

With a 30-40 percent rate hike NFL Sunday Ticket will be 500-600 after next season.
78036364

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USA

Re: So..

No the cost of your DirecTV service will go up.

Bill Van

join:2013-02-07
Norfolk, VA

Google and Microsoft can't offer the NFL Sunday Ticket

The NFL's Sunday Ticket service is quite unique. The service would have to be offered in all 50 states and it must be able to deliver at least 14 HD channels simultaneously. This week alone there are ten 1:00pm games, a Mix Channel, a Red Zone Channel, a Fantasy Zone channel not to mention streaming live games to their customers mobile devices. To offset costs I would like to see the NFL and DirecTV licensing ISP's to offer their Short Cuts (watch whole games in 30 minutes) game footage. I see that could be a major win, win for all ISP's and NFL fans.
wkm001

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Re: Google and Microsoft can't offer the NFL Sunday Ticket

They might have to offer 14 simultaneous streams but hardly anyone will stream that many at the same time. In fact I suspect the number of streams you can access at any given time will be restricted. It was with DirecTV's streaming package last year.

Cable TV has to pipe every channel down the tube at the same time, Internet streaming is on demand.

fg8578

join:2009-04-26
Salem, OR

Re: Google and Microsoft can't offer the NFL Sunday Ticket

said by wkm001:

Cable TV has to pipe every channel down the tube at the same time, Internet streaming is on demand.

As more cable systems move to IPTV, they won't have to pipe every channel simultaneously to every subscriber. They'll adopt the ATT Uverse model, which limits you to four simultaneous streams (or maybe a few more on fiber based systems).
psx_defector

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Allen, TX
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Re: Google and Microsoft can't offer the NFL Sunday Ticket

U-Verse is based on multicast, not unicast. It saves on bandwidth over the wire because it's broadcast once to the node to all the subscribers.

There is no way to apply this type of method to discreet point to point streams.

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said by wkm001:

They might have to offer 14 simultaneous streams but hardly anyone will stream that many at the same time. In fact I suspect the number of streams you can access at any given time will be restricted. It was with DirecTV's streaming package last year.

that is why it needs to be cable / sat so the bars have a easy way to get it and to be able to show all games at the same time.
78036364

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USA

Here's an idea DirecTV

Offer streaming Sunday Ticket WITHOUT the requirement that we also have your TV service. You'll make hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars to help offset the 30%-40% increase. Maybe one day you'll get that there are millions of us that would rather do without Sunday Ticket rather than be forced to get DirecTv.
bookertdub

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San Diego, CA

NFL Game Pass For The Win!

Pretty simple workaround for this, a VPN or DNS service with NFL Game Pass. Stream every game without blackouts. Depending on the "country you're in", I've been able to get it for $129.99
78036364

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Re: NFL Game Pass For The Win!

Sorry I rather not do illegal thing or mess with VPN. I'll speak with my wallet and NOT give the NFL any more of my money until they offer a service I can properly use. You're not helping things. And committing fraud.
bookertdub

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Re: NFL Game Pass For The Win!

Fraud, who is it exactly I'm defrauding? It's not the NFL since I did pay for a service. If they can't figure a way to stop VPNs or don't want to invest in stopping it, that's their problem.

dvd536
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how is that fraud when he paid for the service?
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mbruno

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Fraud in what way? A user is simply using the technology available to them to get what they want while paying for the service. Fraud in my book is when someone promises something and then does something else.

Markie
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What a looser.
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Where's the fraud?

As far as I can tell, the NFL has placed no restriction on the use of VPNs and other technology to mask the user's actual physical location. And even if they have, it's incumbent upon them to enforce said restrictions.

If anything, this is only a minor misrepresentation on the part of the user that certainly cannot be considered to be of a material nature to the contract. (If it were, again, the NFL has the opportunity to prevent it... but they aren't.)