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No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
1 edit | i will take cable thankyou Right now, I have cable internet, and Voip. No i dont want Verizon, or there excessive taxes. NJ show Verizon the door please.... | |
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HotRodFoto
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join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO | Re: i will take cable thankyou didn't think there was excessive taxes with FIOS
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Derch
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join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK | Re: i will take cable thankyou Not yet, but give them a year and they will start adding them onto your total. | |
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | Isn't this extortion? Verizon dangling the "carrot" | |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace | Re: i will take cable thankyou Only if you don't have more money than the lawmakers. | |
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join:2001-09-24
Old Bridge, NJ | Sorry Dave, cable sucks and charges way too much with monthly rate increases. VOIP is just "not ready for prime time". I'll take DirecTV, PTSN and DSL. They work, are relatively trouble free and are cheaper. | |
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| donjuan2002
join:2002-10-06
Kearny, NJ | Verizon those not tax you, the state does. Do not blame Verizon for it. | |
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join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ
1 edit | Re: i will take cable thankyou hahah what was that page written by a 2 year old? | |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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| Re: i will take cable thankyou said by retsam  :hahah what was that page written by a 2 year old? I dont care if you like telco or not, but cable is the only competitor or provider in some areas. Plus my phone bill dropped 40$ when i went to Voip. Maybe its about time the Telcos get competititve. For example providing 3m dsl to all its customers?, or caller id, vm and call waiting should be free. I cant believe the cost to run a copper wire to my house cost so much. | |
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join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ
| Re: i will take cable thankyou last i checked it was free from verzion with the freedom package...
»www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/sa···dom.aspx
so 30 for internet
and 49$ with phone .... 80$ per month....
comcast 50$ for internet
35$ for viop.... sounds like your getting ripped off to me | |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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| Re: i will take cable thankyou said by retsam :last i checked it was free from verzion with the freedom package... » www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/sa···dom.aspxso 30 for internet and 49$ with phone .... 80$ per month.... comcast 50$ for internet 35$ for viop.... sounds like your getting ripped off to me Verizon dsl for me is 1/128 max and i dont have comcast. Hint: My voip charges are 20$ a month. Yet i live in one of the more weathlier areas of nj. | |
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zoom314
Superman
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join:2001-04-30
Yermo, CA
1 edit | Re: I will take cable thank you said by DaveNJ :said by retsam :Last I checked it was free from Verizon with the freedom package... » www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/sa···dom.aspxSo $30 for internet and $49 49$ with phone .... $80 80$ per month.... Comcast $50 50$ for internet $35 35$ for VOIP.... sounds like your getting ripped off to me. Verizon dsl for Me is 1/128 max and I don't have Comcast. Hint: My VOIP charges are $20 20$ a month. Yet I live in one of the more wealthier areas of NJ. I don't know If You knew this or not, And I don't know If You are New to this Country or not, But didn't You know You are supposed to put the Dollar sign before the amount? Since in the USA It's correct and proper to put the cent symbol there and not the $ Symbol which goes like these two Examples: $45.00 or $45,000.00, Not after It. And yes You should do It the right way, Not the wrong way...
And Yes I'll be corrective as Americans put the $ Symbol before the amount typed as that is what is taught, Just as We will not Kneel or Dip our Flag to anybody, period. As that is the American way of doing things. Does that make US Superior? No, It's just that the USA was modeled after the best concepts of the Roman Empire, With a few tweaks and improvements added of course.
Please don't think that I'm flaming anyone and I'm not a hypocrite either, I may have concentration and anxiety problems, But I don't do childish things like flaming as I'm an adult that's 44 years old and I know better than to stoop that low. Oh and I'm not a troll either, Concerned Yes.
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Love it, Hate it.
join:2003-07-10
Baltimore, MD | Re: I will take cable thank you /\ HAHA, love it! | |
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zoom314
Superman
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join:2001-04-30
Yermo, CA
| Re: I will take cable thank you said by Mordhem :/\ HAHA, love it! I'm glad You think I wasn't being serious, Have You or anyone else You know of seen the $ Dollar symbol on the Right side of a price of an item or product on TV anywhere in the USA???
Answer: No.
Maybe the Europeans put their Euro symbol on the right, But the Dollar is always put on the Left, Never the right.
And Yes I'm serious about this, I'm not joking about It at all.
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join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI | Re: I will take cable thank you He was laughing becuase he was not sure what was funnier.
1) The corection post you wrote.
2) You being serious about it.
3) The fact that your caps lock key seems to be broken. | |
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zoom314
Superman
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join:2001-04-30
Yermo, CA
| Re: I will take cable thank you said by Freezone :He was laughing because he was not sure what was funnier. 1) The correction post you wrote. 2) You being serious about it. 3) The fact that your caps lock key seems to be broken. My caps lock key works just fine as I never type in All caps, Thanks. USA is meant to be in capital letters, But I guess some don't or didn't pay attention in class or just didn't care. I mean this isn't Europe or in that area of the world. And I would think people that can operate a PC are a fairly smart bunch of bananas by nature, But I guess some are a bit dumber than others.
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | IM not from NJ but i would want fios, government sets taxes not verizon if they modified them in any way call up a trouble shooter they love this kind of stuff, Or the BBB in your area | |
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woody7
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join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA | I love it.... dissent among the "unscrupulus":)
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | Re: I love it.... I'd trust competitive forces here. Verizon knows that the residential market is highly competitive -- and price constrained. I say get off their back. FiOS is important.
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woody7
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Torrance, CA | Re: I love it.... How is it competetive when you seek special favours?
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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| Re: I love it.... said by woody7 :How is it competetive when you seek special favours? Verizon should just have to negotiate on a town by town basis. Its the rules, Verizon should just follow them. | |
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join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ | Re: I love it.... ya and it would only take them 10 years to go threw the whole town by town process...how is that competition | |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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| Re: I love it.... said by retsam :ya and it would only take them 10 years to go threw the whole town by town process...how is that competition We live in a society based on Law, if Verizon only stands for the law when its in their favor, it makes them a hypocrite. If Verizon wanted to sell cable, its not going to take them 10 yrs. Our cable company did it for the whole region in less then 12 months. Again Verizon lies, and gets its way. BOO HOO poor Verizon. | |
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join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ | Re: I love it.... can you provide facts to back up that statement....probably not. | |
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join:2000-10-15
Chesterfield, VA
| everyone should want this.... Even if they are going to stick with Cable... Look at whats its doing in NY city because of competition HMMM whats happening??? let see...
1. the cable company is offering higher speeds some up to 10M Down (fios is up to 30M i think with the pricey pakage)
2. Lower prices
3. Better service
so whats so bad about competition?? and just wait till verizon starts offering there TV service Via Fios | |
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA
| Silly Verizon, Monopolies are so Bell Atlantic Lets see, Atleast some oen is sticking up to Verizon. Im glad. Hey if Verizon doesn't wanna deploy FiOS, Theres always someone that will. I personally don't like New Jersey, but hell, Theres more Telcos in the US, They can kick Verizons ass out, and then have SBC come in or someone else. | |
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JPuppy
Java Heathen
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join:2002-11-24
Honesdale, PA
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1 edit | Re: Silly Verizon, Monopolies are so Bell Atlantic said by FTCXtreme : Theres more Telcos in the US, They can kick Verizons ass out, and then have SBC come in or someone else. How exactly would another telco 'Kick Versions ass out'?
Oh, and NJ doesn't like you either.
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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
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join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
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| Too many fiefdoms anyway NJ has 567 municipalities. It's insane the waste and duplication of services that goes on here. I don't blame Verizon for trying this approach at all. From a business perspective they would be crazy not to try it.
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | Re: Too many fiefdoms anyway Shit, PA has over 2000 municipalities.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | Re: Too many fiefdoms anyway Maryland has a great system, all services including police, fire and abulances, also schools. Including cable are all negoiated at the county level. | |
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| obvious dichotomy can someone please xplain why cablcos can offer dial tone without regulation but telcos have to be regulated for the sale of televison? i see cablecos offering the telcos main base product without any regulation whatsoever...and when the telcos try to compete by offering the cablecos main product they are met with regulation. it seems a dichotomy exists between the major players where only one can offer the others services unimpeded and the other is seemingly unfairly singled out for regulation. discuss please, i look forward to hearing your responses. thank you yes i use cable for my high speed internet, but i would use neither for television cause the choices of viewing material are crap. everybody loves raymond? bullshit. | |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| just offer video =D if its a data service just claim the TV is a data service too and not a CATV service. i bet that method could sidestep the stupidly dumb franchise(Monopoly enforcement) laws.
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JPuppy
Java Heathen
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join:2002-11-24
Honesdale, PA
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| Re: just offer video =D said by Kearnstd :...stupidly dumb franchise(Monopoly enforcement) laws. Franchise laws have nothing to do with monopolies. They are about granting companies right of ways, enforcing service standards, and regulating rate increases.
How, how effective they might be is another question....
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ
| Verizon? I live in Madison NJ. Verizon will not pull new copper down my street therefore normal ADSL palin doesn't work.
In the next Town Chatham Townsip the trunk line comes from Summit and the distance is so far that Verizon offer only a trickle speed well below broadband.
Now IF Verizon is such a great company why haven't they bothered offering even a decent ADSL service to so many people? I have NO trust of Verizon at all. I also know the PUB of NJ isn't stella either. The 2 deserve themselves. Meantime I went to Cable Internet some years ago. | |
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| Hello - not like cable was any different I guess the cable companies want you to conveniently forget that we (the taxpayers) subsidized and in many cases outright paid to string their cables so they could make money from our fees.
Fios isn't a right, it's a priveledge. Dell isn't required to price the same to businesses as you the home user. Business week flying costs more than weekend flights. There are conditions in all markets in which a company can decided the conditions are not good enough to put out a service. This isn't new, and its not just telecom's, but any business. And all kinds of industries leverage governments to increase the incentive for their products.
People just want Fios, well a great deal do. And with any such product, the withholding of it from a population is a strong incentive to meet the conditions the company wants for deployment. The alternative is to deploy it ourselves. That is an option. But we should be upset if it's one we find distasteful. This is just the nature of getting what you want, what the companies want, and ultimately even what you might, as a shareholder, want in the end. It is just one big balancing act.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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| Re: Hello - not like cable was any different One important point is, the majority dont need it. I certainly dont. I dont want IPTV, when i can get cable and have it on all my sets without a converter. If Verizon wants to hold back let them, and Cable has and will fill in the gaps quite nicely. Also satellite has further pushed Verizon into a less competitve spot. | |
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join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ
| Re: Hello - not like cable was any different jsut beause you dont want it doesnt mean the rest of us dont need it .... by the way we all love high prices ...the last time i checked my phone bill has gone down and my high speed internet connection price has gone way down ..if it was up to comcrap we would all be paying 50$+ per month for high speed internet. competition is a great thing...now thanks to verizon with fios docsis 3 is coming soon rather then later thanks to verizon and there fios push ... | |
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join:2003-07-20
Littleton, CO
| Re: Hello - not like cable was any different There's not a spec for DOCSIS 3.0 yet, so we're still a long way off. Matter of fact, I know of only one box on the market that can actually separate the QAM and Scheduler right now (and it's not Cisco). The MSO's will probably not start certifying and testing 3.0 solutions until very late 2006 if that soon. Deployment obviously will follow that. With DOCSIS 3.0, there will be IP based Downstream (and upstream) channel bonding technologies so the ability to increase speed to the user is there (as long as the cable plant has adjacent 6Mhz channels to bond).
But, this technology should be interesting.
At this time, Fios looks well priced and the service looks good (I'm not sure about reliability) if you are lucky enough to live in a service area. Eventually they should be able to increase homes passed...but, it is very expensive for telcos to build this service into their infrastructure. So, time is necessary...
It's funny reading posts by people that are not in the industry, but try to talk like they are. It really provides a little humor to a day's work.
The dollar sign post is one of those. I've seen people (in the USA) use dollar signs at the end of an expression if the dollar amount is an estimate. I haven't seen it a bunch, but a few times. I find it acceptable. If the poster is not from here, let him be. That's what America is really about, isn't it? Melting pot of personalities, freedom of speech and expression, etc? Oh, unless he's talking about the white separtist Amerikkka that doesn't hold the whole meting pot thing as relative.
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join:2001-09-27
Nine Mile Falls, WA | Private FIber Has anyone who demands FIOS ever thought of the FCC's ruling that bells who upgrade to FIOS are not required to open their platform to competitors? | |
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