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kudos:22 | Classy Sign So the sign either means it's serious business or it's a massive joke. Take picks I'd say to this one! | |
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| Re: Classy Sign Hmm I see this building, and anything connected to it, as being really all that it really is, the ultimate, the pinnacle of creation for any hacker worth their reputation.
Holy eggs all in one basket batman.
Way to go NSA, nothing like pretending to be the ultimate in hacker porn eh. | |
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|  elios
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Springfield, MO | NSA gets pissy about same thing at Fort Mead too soo nothing new really | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Classy Sign It's not just the NSA. Most Federal Government agencies frown upon, and even forbid, pictures/videos of their facilities, especially the security and protection mechanisms. This is not surprising at all, especially since the "authorized personnel" and "no trespassing" signs were posted upon entrance to the grounds. | |
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Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | Re: Classy Sign said by openbox9:It's not just the NSA. Most Federal Government agencies frown upon, and even forbid, pictures/videos of their facilities, especially the security and protection mechanisms. This is not surprising at all, especially since the "authorized personnel" and "no trespassing" signs were posted upon entrance to the grounds.
they are just embarrassed because they are behind schedule and over budget.
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| Re: Classy Sign said by AVD:said by openbox9:It's not just the NSA. Most Federal Government agencies frown upon, and even forbid, pictures/videos of their facilities, especially the security and protection mechanisms. This is not surprising at all, especially since the "authorized personnel" and "no trespassing" signs were posted upon entrance to the grounds.
they are just embarrassed because they are behind schedule and over budget. Basically.
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| | | | | said by openbox9:It's not just the NSA. Most Federal Government agencies frown upon, and even forbid, pictures/videos of their facilities, especially the security and protection mechanisms. This is not surprising at all, especially since the "authorized personnel" and "no trespassing" signs were posted upon entrance to the grounds.
If building is visible from public property they can't stop you from taking photo of the building. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Classy Sign Correct. Although you may still get questioned as to what you're doing. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Classy Sign said by openbox9:Correct. Although you may still get questioned as to what you're doing.
Building porn? | |
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Kailua, HI
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| said by openbox9:This is not surprising at all, especially since the "authorized personnel" and "no trespassing" signs were posted upon entrance to the grounds.
Absolutely.
Once the reporter became aware of the access limitations it should have been the end of the story, not just the sidebar they made of it. | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Why did they build it near a highway if they do not want pictures of it? Because if you take the pictures from the highway they cannot legally stop you as you are taking them from public land.
Technically they were not on private property either, their taxes and ours are funding it so we own that place too.(Not that I would use this excuse against the NSA goons with guns at gate. They like the CIA can lock people away and throw away the room.)
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kudos:2 | Re: Classy Sign Just because your taxes pay for it doesn't necessarily mean that you have unfettered access to the grounds/facilities. That goes for any federally owned lands/buildings. | |
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| | So they want no pictures and all that... Gee...Some of us want you the nsa to stop violating our rights. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: So they want no pictures and all that... So, your rights have been personally violated? I get that privacy freaks are worried anytime the letters N, S, and A are mentioned in the same sentence, but honestly, how have you been personally affected by the NSA? | |
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| Re: So they want no pictures and all that... said by openbox9:So, your rights have been personally violated? I get that privacy freaks are worried anytime the letters N, S, and A are mentioned in the same sentence, but honestly, how have you been personally affected by the NSA?
Notice the General's being taken out over emails to their girl friends??? The big problem is all this can be used to take out any one you want especially political foes. Whether you are doing anything or not it makes it very easy for a group to get into power and never leave. Any ways why did we spend all that money fighting the "cold war"? Wasn't it something about oppression like phones that were monitored by the police in east block countries??? | |
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kudos:2 | Re: So they want no pictures and all that... said by Corehhi:Notice the General's being taken out over emails to their girl friends??? Many of the generals' comms are monitored based solely on their positions. They are stupid because they know this. I'm not sure how this personally affects nonamesleft  .said by Corehhi:Any ways why did we spend all that money fighting the "cold war"? To fight oppression and the threat of spread of communism. | |
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| |  SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
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Mentor, OH
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| said by openbox9:So, your rights have been personally violated? I get that privacy freaks are worried anytime the letters N, S, and A are mentioned in the same sentence, but honestly, how have you been personally affected by the NSA?
No, but the Constitution/Bill of rights are there to protect me from an intrusive government. Snooping my communication without a warrant, or notifying me, is against those rights.
Thus shrugging ones shoulders and saying "I have nothing to hide" is akin to saying you would like to live in a country that is run like North Korea, China, where the individual has no rights at all.
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kudos:2 | Re: So they want no pictures and all that... said by Snakeoil:No, but the Constitution/Bill of rights are there to protect me from an intrusive government. Snooping my communication without a warrant, or notifying me, is against those rights. And that's where I take a little bit of issue. Are your communications being intruded upon or snooped anymore than what already happens by your ISP? Or is it just because it's a government agency that scans your e-mail for keywords and then stores them in some bit bucket that will likely never be looked at again? | |
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kudos:1 | Re: So they want no pictures and all that... I hate it when the ISP does it, and I hate it when the government does it. Hence I seldom communicate on line. | |
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1 edit | Re: So they want no pictures and all that... 32k posts is 'seldom communicating' online? | |
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| Re: So they want no pictures and all that... That is here, and nothing of importance. I seldom message friends, family. Nor to I post anything I don't want to be seen.
Nor do I store things to the "cloud".
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| | | | | | | | | Re: So they want no pictures and all that... Folks out in Ohio have bigger problems than this paranoia of the guvmit spying on you. | |
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| said by openbox9:So, your rights have been personally violated? I get that privacy freaks are worried anytime the letters N, S, and A are mentioned in the same sentence, but honestly, how have you been personally affected by the NSA?
I will respond, but it more then likely is a waste of my time. We have an oppressive government that thinks americans are a threat! Rand paul has been on cspan about the oblamer administrations weaponized illegal drone use in America....Wake up dude!
There is a list of keywords that they are looking for, go search for them, some are kind of odd ones that make no sense to look out for. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: So they want no pictures and all that... I've heard/read/seen the Rand Paul filibuster actions. Good for him. As for use of drones in the US, you're crazy if you think that a drone will ever fire on a US citizen on our soil. The publicity would be insane no matter what ideology/party you subscribe to.
You didn't answer my question. | |
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1 edit | Re: So they want no pictures and all that... said by openbox9:I've heard/read/seen the Rand Paul filibuster actions. Good for him. As for use of drones in the US, you're crazy if you think that a drone will ever fire on a US citizen on our soil. The publicity would be insane no matter what ideology/party you subscribe to.
You didn't answer my question.
It can, and will be covered up. Anything this administration says they won't do, they will. What about that recent incident in crapafornia? The one where they pulled a waco and were caught saying burn it down...Trusting anything this administration says would be foolish, this one is much worse then the W Bush era...
As to if my rights were violated, I wouldn't be surprised, it has been ruled we have no right to file suit against these creeps. You also forgot martial law which they have been training for in the usa illegally.
I think they are looking for civil unrest thats what these nsa outfits are for, in which this is what they would do »www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne···oil.html
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kudos:2 | Re: So they want no pictures and all that... I think you watch too many movies. I suspect it very difficult to cover things up these days, except for those that choose to remain ignorant.said by nonamesleft:As to if my rights were violated, I wouldn't be surprised So you haven't been personally affected by the NSA's actions?said by nonamesleft:You also forgot martial law which they have been training for in the usa illegally. Hah, wow. You've piqued my interest. Care to elaborate? | |
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| Re: So they want no pictures and all that... said by openbox9:I think you watch too many movies. I suspect it very difficult to cover things up these days, except for those that choose to remain ignorant. said by nonamesleft:As to if my rights were violated, I wouldn't be surprised So you haven't been personally affected by the NSA's actions? said by nonamesleft:You also forgot martial law which they have been training for in the usa illegally. Hah, wow. You've piqued my interest. Care to elaborate? Can we go that route? It will take this conversation off topic... | |
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| Someone has been reading too much Prison Planet and Drudge Report.
What of the incident in California? The scumbag murdered how many police officers? They gave him a chance to surrender, he declined. Frankly they should have just shot him after that, but people who have never had to worry about dying when they go to work would whine. We're reduced to trying to gas him out and hoping that the gas is actually effective enough to negate his ability to kill more innocent people before we can secure his person and weaponry.
We had an incident in New York State a few years ago, where someone crippled two State Troopers and murdered a third. Google "Bucky Ralph Phillips". I thought for sure that SOB would be shot while resisting arrest, but the coward sneaked across the border into Pennsylvania and surrendered there in full view of the TV cameras. Apparently he was man enough to shoot three State Troopers in the back who couldn't even see him (not that it would have mattered if they had, scoped rifle vs. handguns...) but not man enough to engage them on equal footing.
Naturally NY gutted capital punishment, so the taxpayers get to feed this piece of trash for the rest of his godforsaken life. He'll have better medical care than many taxpayers, all on the dime of those taxpayers. It really would make so much more sense to hang the SOB. | |
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| Re: So they want no pictures and all that... said by Crookshanks:Someone has been reading too much Prison Planet and Drudge Report.
What of the incident in California? The scumbag murdered how many police officers? They gave him a chance to surrender, he declined. Frankly they should have just shot him after that, but people who have never had to worry about dying when they go to work would whine. We're reduced to trying to gas him out and hoping that the gas is actually effective enough to negate his ability to kill more innocent people before we can secure his person and weaponry.
We had an incident in New York State a few years ago, where someone crippled two State Troopers and murdered a third. Google "Bucky Ralph Phillips". I thought for sure that SOB would be shot while resisting arrest, but the coward sneaked across the border into Pennsylvania and surrendered there in full view of the TV cameras. Apparently he was man enough to shoot three State Troopers in the back who couldn't even see him (not that it would have mattered if they had, scoped rifle vs. handguns...) but not man enough to engage them on equal footing.
Naturally NY gutted capital punishment, so the taxpayers get to feed this piece of trash for the rest of his godforsaken life. He'll have better medical care than many taxpayers, all on the dime of those taxpayers. It really would make so much more sense to hang the SOB.
Dude, it was caught on a mainstream media channel! They were caught actually saying "burn the effer down"! So no, it's NOT a conspiracy theory this time. The lapd is very reckless. | |
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| Re: So they want no pictures and all that... I listened to the same radio broadcast that you just cited. So what? He killed multiple police officers. They gave him a chance to surrender. He declined. So they killed him. I'm not seeing the problem here. The fact that they killed him with tear gas instead of a bullet is immaterial.
The use of deadly force is perfectly legal and morally just when one expects it to be used against them. What would you have them do? Kick down the door, enter the building, and give him a chance to kill yet another person? Deploy dozens of LEOs to wait him out for weeks, spending tens of thousands of dollars, and leaving their home neighborhoods unprotected?
He could have come out and surrendered when the building went up in smoke. If he had been shot with his hands in the air attempting to surrender you'd have an argument to make. Of course that's not what happened. He decided to go out in a blaze of glory, and I say good riddance to bad rubbish. | |
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More of my paycheck being wasted on this Agency. Seems pretty personal to me. | |
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| | The sign is the sign at the entrance to the base. The sign is the sign at the entrance to the base. Yes BASE, the NSA facility is contained fully within the boundary of Fort Williams military base.
Like any military base, they don't like people snooping around their perimeter. I'm not sure why they would be surprised that the military wouldn't want people snooping around. | |
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| | | Re: The sign is the sign at the entrance to the base. said by rahvin112:The sign is the sign at the entrance to the base. Yes BASE, the NSA facility is contained fully within the boundary of Fort Williams military base.
Like any military base, they don't like people snooping around their perimeter. I'm not sure why they would be surprised that the military wouldn't want people snooping around.
So i use long lense and take picture from public property. It's totally legal. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: The sign is the sign at the entrance to the base. Yes. Happens quite frequently. | |
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Detroit, MI | Deleted pictures can be recovered If the pictures were merely deleted and not DOD wiped, they can be recovered later. I'm disappointed that the agents did not seem to know that. | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Deleted pictures can be recovered Or if it was a 3G ipad, He could have even uploaded them already if the area had a signal.
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| | 2Billion for a 25K sq ft data center?? At my old employer we built many DC's from 90K to 150K sq ft in size data centers and they didn't even come close to a billion dollars each even AFTER factoring in all of the gear that goes inside them..
What the hell is the government doing to spend 2Bil on a 25K sq ft DC..!! Leave it to the government to mis-spend our money. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: 2Billion for a 25K sq ft data center?? Were they built to applicable DCIDs and the DNI's security requirements? | |
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Kansas City, MO | said by buckweet1980:What the hell is the government doing to spend 2Bil on a 25K sq ft DC..!! Leave it to the government to mis-spend our money.
It costs a lot of money to get every communications cable routed through Utah 
...and we have to assume this is just the one we know about right? The real one is disguised as a starbucks in Dallas Right?  | |
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| What a waste of money! 2 billion dollars, for a warehouse location. When it's other people's money the government is ready to waste it.
A lot of the US government is waste. Take a look at
CityTime- Original project cost: $63 million, 5 years
Ongoing project cost $600 million, completion date unknown.
SAIC the prime contractor on the project, paid NYC back so they wouldn't be indicted by the Feds, which would bar them from government contracts forever.
»www.wnyc.org/articles/its-free-c···ry-tale/
One way to put a stop to that, is charge the contractors on the job with fraud and give them a life sentence in the Supermax in Colorado.
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Madera, CA | National Aeronautics and Space Administration What business does the National Aeronautics and Space Administration have spending our money, allocated to them for space exploration, on spying on the public (us). Come on really, think about it. Our government is becoming an abomination. I'm not saying whether or not there is a valid reason, making this type of thing necessary. I'm just saying our own government feels the need to circumnavigate due process and clarity of purpose, and we continue to let it.
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