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| Comcast calls NY Attrny Gnrl a publicity seeking hack ..... ... in so many words. »custom.marketwatch.com/custom/td···5906a40}
"I think the New York Attorney General has demonstrated an interesting proclivity for wanting to get involved in potentially high-profile matters all around the country, whether they have anything to do with New York state or not," said Cohen. NY State has a tendency to create Attorney Generals with an overly developed self importance looking to make names for themselves. 1st Spitzer, and now Cuomo. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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| Re: Comcast calls NY Attrny Gnrl a publicity seeking hack ..... said by Comcast's David Cohen :
"I think the New York Attorney General has demonstrated an interesting proclivity for wanting to get involved in potentially high-profile matters all around the country, whether they have anything to do with New York state or not," said Cohen. Go ahead, little boy. Reach into the tiger's cage and pet the nice kitty. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon "We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report. | |
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| said by TKJunkMail :NY State has a tendency to create Attorney Generals with an overly developed self importance looking to make names for themselves. 1st Spitzer, and now Cuomo. Doesn't matter. They tend to bring consumer issues to light and take action on them, which other state AJ's look the other way at. Let 'em grandstand if it helps to protect the general public's interest. -- Life is simply one damned thing after another. | |
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| Re: Comcast calls NY Attrny Gnrl a publicity seeking hack ..... said by DownTheShore :said by TKJunkMail :NY State has a tendency to create Attorney Generals with an overly developed self importance looking to make names for themselves. 1st Spitzer, and now Cuomo. Doesn't matter. They tend to bring consumer issues to light and take action on them, which other state AJ's look the other way at. Let 'em grandstand if it helps to protect the general public's interest. Amen! | |
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| Yup! They tend to look the other way. You can thank the AG of MN for the major shake up with the cellular industry in stopping the contract extension for plan changes.. the impending change to the contract break out fees.. and so on.
Quite a few AGs don't turn the other way, actually. | |
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| Re: Comcast calls NY Attrny Gnrl a publicity seeking hack ..... said by fiberguy :Yup! They tend to look the other way. You can thank the AG of MN for the major shake up with the cellular industry in stopping the contract extension for plan changes.. the impending change to the contract break out fees.. and so on. Quite a few AGs don't turn the other way, actually. That's true, but the NY AG, as you can see from the earlier posts, usually gets knocked for doing what AJ's should be doing just because his actions get played up more in the NY media, so more people become aware of it.
There have been a lot of instances where a number of the state AJ's have closely worked together to successfully achieve common goals. But putting the NY AJ in the mix usually guarantees publicity for whatever the cause is. -- Life is simply one damned thing after another. | |
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 |  |   deadi Premium join:2001-08-26 Perry, OH | Agreed, they can have all the attention they want if they are protecting the consumer!!!!!!!! -- We learn through the exchange of information, tell me more...... | |
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| Politics aside, Good for NY's AG cookies to the NY AG..
Now if more AGs got involved, Comcast would really have no choice but to discontinue this illegal practice.
Lets hope the current FCC talks can get this stopped sooner rather then later, such as after a long drawn-out legal proceeding. | |
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join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: Politics aside, Good for NY's AG Comcast should not be hammering on users to throttle/shape traffic. What if everyone went online and started streaming TV over the Internet ? Would Comcast throttle them too ? -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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| Re: Politics aside, Good for NY's AG said by en102 :Comcast should not be hammering on users to throttle/shape traffic. What if everyone went online and started streaming TV over the Internet ? Would Comcast throttle them too ? My thinking too. If P2P went away tomorrow, and people decided to start streaming all kinds of videos, would the "Comcast's" be justified in shaping/throttling that traffic too, considering they advertise that you can use the connection for just that purpose? -- RIAA/MPAA... Bite me!!!! In constant search for intelligent life on Earth! | |
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| said by Dogfather :It was normalizing traffic shaping for a future double dipping for content delivery. Bingo. This is nothing more than an end run around of the NN issue. | |
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But it's so ludicrous you would think it was one of those SNL parodies. | |
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| Re: Controlling P2P wasn't their aim Indeed. Of course they've pretty much been a parody of themselves for awhile.
I hooked up my laptop to our 42" Toshiba LCD HDTV last night and tested Netflix's movies-on-demand offering. It was every bit as good as standard digital cable quality-wise and started playing in less than 30 seconds on my 6 meg DSL connection. Not one single buffering incident for 100 minutes of the movie. And it is a "free" adjunct to our $15/mo 3 at a time account. Amazon's Unbox works great with our TiVo, too. Cable is becoming more and more irrelevant. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. | |
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| said by RadioDoc :... I hooked up my laptop to our 42" Toshiba LCD HDTV last night and tested Netflix's movies-on-demand offering. It was every bit as good as standard digital cable quality-wise and started playing in less than 30 seconds on my 6 meg DSL connection. You still watch SD? With all the Comcast HD channels here in rural backwater Coloma, I can't remember the last time I watched anything in SD. Yech!
For movies, I just hit the Comcast OnDemand button and choose the HD version. Starts instantly and plays flawlessly too. -- Comcast has spoiled me rotten! | |
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| Re: Controlling P2P wasn't their aim No, we watch HD. Was using the Netflix test as an example of what is coming, and what will soon kick cable companies asses. Apple TV already can access HD content and the rest are coming online. Best part? No crappy Comcast VoD selection limits or choppy, overcompressed picture. Consider yourself lucky that you are on an almost new system. In Chicagoland and a lot of other markets your experience is not experienced. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. | |
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| Re: Controlling P2P wasn't their aim said by RadioDoc : ... Consider yourself lucky that you are on an almost new system. In Chicagoland and a lot of other markets your experience is not experienced. A very wise Chicago 'friend' of mine once told me that if I didn't like my broadband options that I should move. Maybe you should move to Coloma? Whoa, what the hell was I thinking.  -- Comcast has spoiled me rotten! | |
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| Yes, I believe this is just a front for things to come. Capping traffic is not the answer though. That would limit anyone that would like IPTV. I think we should look at the number of connections to a single ip though. Or just cap Bit Torent specifically. In reality, there are those that do not bother with limiting the number of seeds they are hosting. -- We learn through the exchange of information, tell me more...... | |
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join:2007-08-19 | Bring the noise If AG Cuomo is a deserving successor to Spitzer, then this is his moment. All it's going to take is one state AG's office to initiate a class action lawsuit and all the others will join in. It couldn't happen to a more deserving mega-corp. | |
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| The other side of the coin... Comcast explicitly prohibits servers on residential accounts. P2P is a server. What part of that doesn't the AG understand? Seems clear to me.
Maybe the AG should go after all the thieves that are using P2P illegally to distribute copyrighted material. | |
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| Re: The other side of the coin... said by GoodLuckChuck :
Comcast explicitly prohibits servers on residential accounts. P2P is a server. What part of that doesn't the AG understand? Seems clear to me.
Maybe the AG should go after all the thieves that are using P2P illegally to distribute copyrighted material. umm UPLOADING a file (shared or otherwise i.e. p2p, ftp, http upload [youtube, and etc..]) is NOT running a server. A server is usually open to the general public, waits for unsolicited connections.
I'm so tired of those brainwashed people who constantly try to equate uploads with serving. | |
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Your BT program can very well act as a server to anyone needing the files.. get it. | |
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| You're right. No one prohibits servers. They simply block the common ports used to serve certain content on (e.g. port 80 for Web servers, 25/110 for email servers and so on). FiOS does the same thing. I think it bytes and have expressed my discontent with this slimy "Cable-style" practise. Besides, I run a few game servers on my 15/15 and have never had a problem. -- Message of the Day There is no message of the day | |
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| Interesting, I was not aware that the only use for a torrent was to "steal" information. Quite a few games use torrents to update their software, introduce expansions, and I am sure, some have started using torrents to communicate back and forth from pc to server. P2P connection can be used for a lot of different things rather then just illegal priacy.
Speaking of priacy, it isn't the connection that creates the problem, it was dual cassette decks and companies like Sony that created the issue. VHS blank tapes, the ability to record, etc. are the real cause of coping information (which shouldn't be illegal at all). | |
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1 edit | ? I don't see any issue here with NYAG suing.
If a class action suit is used, people complain about money grubbing lawyers. Why not lawyers on the peoples dime do it for their employers? -- PentiumD 930 DC 3.0GHz - 4GB PC2-4200 - 300GB SATA - BFG Nvidia 7950GT OC 512MB - Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1600(1101MCE) - Vista Ultimate SP1 32bit | |
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1 edit | Re: ? said by ARGONAUT :I don't see any issue here with NYAG suing. If a class action suet is used, people complain about money grubbing lawyers. Why not lawyers on the peoples dime do it for their employers? Yo argonaut;
su·et (st) n. The hard fatty tissues around the kidneys of cattle and sheep, used in cooking and for making tallow.
suit (st) (soot) n. 5. Law A court proceeding to recover a right or claim.
neener-neener-neener...
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| said by ARGONAUT :I don't see any issue here with NYAG suing. If a class action suit is used, people complain about money grubbing lawyers. Why not lawyers on the peoples dime do it for their employers? Absolutely -- last I heard the state of NY is completely free of corrupted public officials, shady public contracts, and organized crime. If the NYAG didn't take on Comcast he'd have to start laying off people in his office!
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| Bandwidth Economics 101 Since •content gets paid the more people view it •content distribution (CDNs, Akamai, etc) gets more money the more bits they send •wholesale ISPs get paid when CDNs send more traffic
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•broadband has to increase their network to support additional content under a flat fee....
... perhaps broadband ISPs should just start charging those users that consume more bandwidth then their neighbors..
Enough with trying to play traffic games around the all-you-can-eat pricing.... just be done with it and use the utility billing model. If you use a ton, you pay the price.
I don't know about you, but I would rather not pay the water bill of my neighbor that leaves their sprinklers on all day long or fills their pool several times a summer. Why should I pay for your pirated DVD library | |
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| Re: Bandwidth Economics 101 ...but, if your ISP makes all their customers use less bandwidth wouldn't that be more profitable for them? and if that CEO shows he's cutting cost and increasing profit wouldn't that be his target?
Now, what vehicle could be used to accomplish that goal? -- PentiumD 930 DC 3.0GHz - 4GB PC2-4200 - 300GB SATA - BFG Nvidia 7950GT OC 512MB - Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1600(1101MCE) - Vista Ultimate SP1 32bit | |
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1 edit | Re: Bandwidth Economics 101 said by ARGONAUT :...but, if your ISP makes all their customers use less bandwidth wouldn't that be more profitable for them? Only if the consumers whose bandwidth has been cut put up with it and keep lining Comcrap's pockets. | |
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| said by ARGONAUT :...but, if your ISP makes all their customers use less bandwidth wouldn't that be more profitable for them? and if that CEO shows he's cutting cost and increasing profit wouldn't that be his target? Now, what vehicle could be used to accomplish that goal? No. You don't need to reduce BW to address costs and profit margins. You just need to ensure extremely heavy usage is paid for. NOTE: Fewer than you think fall into this catagory.
You need to ensure as costs go up due to usage, revenue goes up along with it. The same model as content distribution, business and wholesale ISP. | |
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| FTP throttling? I don't normally use Comcast but am on vacation visiting family. I run an FTP server on my computer at home and connect remotely to it as well. My connection at home is 10Mbps/1Mbps.
I have tried several times since I have been here to upload a 5GB hard drive image file to my computer at home. Comcast starts it out at a 1Mbps upload speed but it mysteriously drops down to about 300 Kbps after a few minutes. This has happened every time I've tried, and it has happened both via my FTP server and Remote Desktop.
Given all the new about Comcast's supposed upstream throttling I couldn't help but wonder it this issue of mine is related as well. | |
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| Re: FTP throttling? Don't know what you're using for your FTP client, but that could be the problem.
I recently tried uploading a fairly large file (~35 MB IIRC) via FTP just using the client built into Windows, and it kept slowing down until it timed out altogether.
Then I tried with Filezilla and it worked just fine.
(All over a 6/384 Comcast connection, btw). | |
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