Netflix Broadens Film Download BusinessStrikes deal with LG which could be the first of many... ( old news - 09:05AM Thursday Jan 03 2008) tags: Video · business · contentNetflix has struck a deal with LG that will allow Netflix to build a movie system directly into televisions or set-top boxes. The company's goal is to be a universal movie-download channel that's available on a variety of devices, so additional deals are expected. According to the New York Times: Reed Hastings, chief executive of Netflix, said he hoped to strike other such deals and that Netflix would soon be viewed as a movie channel that might appear on myriad devices. "We want to be integrated on every Internet-connected device, game system, high-definition DVD player and dedicated Internet set-top box," he said. "Eventually, as TVs have wireless connectivity built into them, we’ll integrate right into the television." The company has already been offering broadband film downloads via their website for more than a year.
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Rob
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| Amazon + Tivo = Winner Granted, unbox is still in it's early stages since they don't offer High Def, Blue-Ray, or as many new releases as Netflix. But the ability to go log onto unbox in the morning, select your movie (for as low as 99 cents) and have it on your tivo when you get home at night is a major plus. No more having to hook up your computer to your TV!
If Tivo can offer this service, they will have made one major leap over BlockBuster. If they can bring high def and the ability to download movies to your Xbox 360, they will be #1.
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| Re: Amazon + Tivo = Winner said by Rob  :Granted, unbox is still in it's early stages since they don't offer High Def, Blue-Ray, or as many new releases as Netflix. But the ability to go log onto unbox in the morning, select your movie (for as low as 99 cents) and have it on your tivo when you get home at night is a major plus. No more having to hook up your computer to your TV! If Tivo can offer this service, they will have made one major leap over BlockBuster. If they can bring high def and the ability to download movies to your Xbox 360, they will be #1. I agree, having Amazon Unbox on TiVO already is a big plus. Even my old Series2 Tivo does Unbox well, and having the built-in ability to link effortlessly to my computer to view any media files located there (whether pictures, video, music) is a plus, as well.
Now, if Amazon/TiVO come up with a subscription service like NetFlix, where you could pay a fixed amount each month and then download/watch movies at will, well, that would put a nail in the coffin of Netflix, I think, since there is already a huge installed base of TiVOs out there that are already capable. | |
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| Re: Amazon + Tivo = Winner I subscribe to both TiVo and Netflix but UnBox just does not cut it compared to Netflix. If they have flicks for .99c I'd be happy to use it but every time I look at UnBox it cost like $5 to rent a flick. Thats is just not competitive enough for me to switch to Unbox. | |
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| Feature available already via XBox 360 Via my kids XBox 360 I can already download movies that I can then watch in hi-def quality.
I doubt highly that hardware manufacturers will want to increase their costs so that their customers will be tied to one rental provider. Microsoft is doing it their tried-and-true way... giving the capability away free when you buy another of their products. (IE with Windows, Powerpoint with Office). Good luck Netflix. | |
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| Re: Feature available already via XBox 360 said by m60521 :Via my kids XBox 360 I can already download movies that I can then watch in hi-def quality. I doubt highly that hardware manufacturers will want to increase their costs so that their customers will be tied to one rental provider. Microsoft is doing it their tried-and-true way... giving the capability away free when you buy another of their products. (IE with Windows, Powerpoint with Office). Good luck Netflix. Movies and Tv shows that you download can only be played on the 360 you downloaded them on. Really suck for TV shows because those are purcahses not rentals. At least if I buy a show on DVD I can play it on a 360, dvd player, PC, laptop, stand alone HD-DVD or blu-ray player or a PS3. Sorry if I'm paying for a $50 for a whole season of a show I should be able to watch on whatever I damn well please. And in 5,6 or 7 years when the XOX 360 is obsolete and there's a XBOX 720 or whatever am I going to be able to transfer those Tv shows I purchased? Even so if I decide to get a PS4 instead then I'm screwed aren't I? | |
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1 edit | jus another failure in the making? article doesn't give any details about pricing, DRM, universal availability, etc.
right now, no reason to believe this will be any more successful than any other attempt. It's a nice dream they have about TVs with wireless, but it's just that - a dream. I imagine the studios will have their lawyers carefully scrutinizing any attempt to make it easier for consumers to download and watch movies on a big screen TV.
Edit: ran across an article in WSJ, "Wireless HDTVs to be on view at Tech Show" that contains this: "To satisfy concerns of the MPAA...WirlessHD has intentionally limited the range of the technology"
As long as the MPAA has power to influence standards and technology, it's going to be a long while before this "convergence" is mainstream. This probably could have happened a couple of years ago if the studios were rational about digital video. | |
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1 edit | said by NOCMan :They should have partnered with Tivo. I will not be putting another box under my TV. NetFlix and TiVo had a deal they announced a couple of years ago, but it fell through, and TiVo then went with Amazon instead. | |
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| Right direction This is the right direction to be moving. If broadband speeds keep getting higher, sooner or later the old outdated TV model will be gone...
Everyone wants TV on demand, movies on demand, etc etc.. Now if they will just give it to us..
We need TONS more services like this, and a simple set-top box that hooks to your broadband connection, and then allows you to browse all video providers, or stores if you will, and pick what you want to see, and download...
They need to put first run movies on this as well, I know I'm not the only person who would rather watch movies in my own home, rather than in the mix with loud, rude, cell phone talking sub-humans...
So yes, I welcome this, and others like it.. Bring it on baby!
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1 edit | Re: Right direction said by gatorkram :This is the right direction to be moving. If broadband speeds keep getting higher, sooner or later the old outdated TV model will be gone... 3rd party IPTV content will never be scalable for anything more than niche content. Most of what the public knows as IPTV today is done in unicast IP streams, which means that the bandwidth grows linearly as the number of viewers grows. Say you can get an HDTV feed in 1mbps of bandwidth (it's certainly going to be higher than that, but this makes the math easy). For shows like American Idol to be viewed using this technology you would need to meet peak demands of 35-40 million viewers. That's 35,000,000 - 40,000,000 megabit, or 35-40 terabit of bandwidth on the head-end programming source just to distribute content for a single program.
The only way IPTV makes sense en mass is using IP multicast, where your ISP would get a single 1mbps feed for that program and then copy the packets in their network to any end-device that joins the multicast group. Since this requires significant configuration in the network, and broadband networks are also owned by companies selling entertainment via traditional methods, 3rd party mass media distribution via IP is unlikely to ever gain full scale adoption.
Television broadcast coupled with DVR time-shifting functionality will likely continue to be the direction of choice because of the efficiency of the delivery method. | |
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1 edit | Re: Right direction Kind of like old school passing of the test papers to the front row, for them to pass on.
Bit torrent is an advanced form of this ... no it'll never take off 
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| said by espaeth :3rd party IPTV content will never be scalable for anything more than niche content...... Television broadcast coupled with DVR time-shifting functionality will likely continue to be the direction of choice because of the efficiency of the delivery method. Good analysis. Multicast is the only practical possibility for IPTV of mass market shows. And as you point out, even that is unlikely for the foreseeable future.
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| said by gatorkram :... They need to put first run movies on this as well, I know I'm not the only person who would rather watch movies in my own home, rather than in the mix with loud, rude, cell phone talking sub-humans... I REALLY doubt we will see first run movies downloadable to the home in hte forseeable future. There is too much money tied up in theatres. And while I hate the crouds, many people still cannot rival the experience of a theatre in their home. I believe we will see theatres become more like the epic feel that they had in the 20's and 30's if they are to survive. But you can bet your last dollar that the MPAA will fight this (and similar) technologies to prevent releases from comming to us earlier than they do now...
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united state | Re: Integrate the 'watch now' feature with.... The Xbox360 has iptv capabilites and I would love to see a Netflix Blade. That would be awesome. Log on to Netflix, submit your gamertag, your box gets hit with an update...Netflix Blade for Instant Watch...that would be cool... | |
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| Re: My wifes loves watching movies via Netflix... Yeah. Good for her! I'm still waiting for my returned video to ship a new one. Nice Netflix. Blame the holidays for a 8 day turnaround on a title. Meanwhile, a card sent to Cali, from PA, got there in 3 days!
If it weren't that Netflix had such a diverse choice, I would care less.
(I think they were on to me. I was watching a film, turning it around the next day and getting another in 2 days. Guess they flagged me. Hey, it was their policy...) | |
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1 edit | Re: My wifes loves watching movies via Netflix... said by cableties :Yeah. Good for her! I'm still waiting for my returned video to ship a new one. Nice Netflix. Blame the holidays for a 8 day turnaround on a title. Meanwhile, a card sent to Cali, from PA, got there in 3 days! If it weren't that Netflix had such a diverse choice, I would care less. (I think they were on to me. I was watching a film, turning it around the next day and getting another in 2 days. Guess they flagged me. Hey, it was their policy...) That's why I never filled out the the email surveys they sent me asking when I received my movies. I'm on 1-at-a-time unlimited, and get at least 7 movies/month from them all for 8.99/month.
My turn-a-round from receipt of 1st movie to return to receipt of next movie; 3-4 days. | |
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| Reads like a quote from the Tech crazy '90s Reed Hastings, chief executive of Netflix, said he hoped to strike other such deals and that Netflix would soon be viewed as a movie channel that might appear on myriad devices. "We want to be integrated on every Internet-connected device, game system, high-definition DVD player and dedicated Internet set-top box," he said. "Eventually, as TVs have wireless connectivity built into them, we’ll integrate right into the television." --
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| I'll buy that... for a dollar While other download services have failed to date, I would gamble that Netflix is in it to win.
The main problems I've seen, so far, is the pricing model and the video quality. If Netflix can address these, and offers up at least their existing catalog, its a winner.
If its like other rental models, "... as low as $.99", then I won't be interested. | |
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