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clubs: | Interesting... We use Netflix and download movies sometimes. It works well on my Latitude D820. It would be even nicer using this set-top box.
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ptrowski
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clubs: | Re: Interesting... We use Netflix more for my daughter, and they have a decent title selection for kids so far. When she is home sick and I am working downloading the movies can come in handy. | |
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join:2007-09-17 | Re: Interesting... I did the 30-day trial and the quality is pretty good. But they must have new DVD releases available, and many many of them. | |
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ | What bitrate is the content encoded at?
i'd think pirated content still beats anything legal in encode rates.
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clubs: | Re: Interesting... Good question, not one I can answer to be honest. | |
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Rob
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Kendall, FL | Tivo.. They need to team up with Tivo and offer the service that way like Amazon unbox. | |
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| Re: Tivo.. said by icp1  :said by Rob :They need to team up with Tivo and offer the service that way like Amazon unbox. Exactly what I was thinking...i have Tivo and Netflix, now if I could download my netflix to Tivo (current movies, not just the current downloadable ones), would save netflix a ton of postage, and I'd be hooked!  I would totally pay a premium for that type of service! | |
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Milpitas, CA
| said by Rob :They need to team up with Tivo and offer the service that way like Amazon unbox. TiVo and NetFlix had a deal a few years ago, but it fell through. Word at the time was that that NetFlix was having trouble getting the appropriate licensing from the studios. Now they seem to have sorted that out, but TiVo has moved on to support Amazon Unbox. | |
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| Re: Tivo.. said by cghh :TiVo and NetFlix had a deal a few years ago, but it fell through. Word at the time was that that NetFlix was having trouble getting the appropriate licensing from the studios. Now they seem to have sorted that out, but TiVo has moved on to support Amazon Unbox. I've downloaded a few unbox movies, but rarely...why pay 4 bucks a pop, when I can get it free (sunk cost, already paying) on netflix in a day or two. | |
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pnh102
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| Pointless quote:
There's no HD yet, but it's coming down the road.
Just what the world needs, another low-def content delivery service. This will be like YouTube, except that the the running time will be longer.
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| Re: Pointless I don't know where you get your movies, but a typical, well encoded 2 hour movie is about 1.3GB, and it looks just fine on an SD tv, and is acceptable on a HD tv. Sure, the 20 minute TV show in HD is about 1GB, but, again, the quality of a well ripped 720p TV show is virtually indistinguishable from the HD broadcast, and looks MUCH better than the same show on DVD. Of course, given that comcrap is going to limit you to 100GB/month, that means a HD movie (expect it to be about 6GB), will suck all your bandwidth after about 15 movies. Of course, if your willing to pay $15.00 (call it $9.00) for a DRM encumbered, expiring movie due to the overage charges, it will be great for you.
NONE of these plans will ever work until the US finally gets a sane (read: competitive) broadband policy.
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pnh102
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| Re: Pointless said by karlmarx :I don't know where you get your movies, but a typical, well encoded 2 hour movie is about 1.3GB, and it looks just fine on an SD tv, and is acceptable on a HD tv. True, true. I am planning to make an investment in an upconverting DVD player in the near future so that the DVDs I do rent look somewhat watchable.
said by karlmarx :Of course, given that comcrap is going to limit you to 100GB/month, that means a HD movie (expect it to be about 6GB), will suck all your bandwidth after about 15 movies. You're being generous.
said by karlmarx :NONE of these plans will ever work until the US finally gets a sane (read: competitive) broadband policy. I happen to think that if there were more bandwidth intensive applications, such as HD streaming, that might gin up demand for better broadband service in the USA. Of course, I seem to be one of the 5 people who actually watch HDTV on a regular basis.
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| Re: Pointless said by pnh102 :True, true. I am planning to make an investment in an upconverting DVD player in the near future so that the DVDs I do rent look somewhat watchable. www.oppodigital.com
Some of the better up-converting players. | |
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| "I happen to think that if there were more bandwidth intensive applications, such as HD streaming, that might gin up demand for better broadband service in the USA. Of course, I seem to be one of the 5 people who actually watch HDTV on a regular basis."
The problem is that no one wants to pay for it. Customers don't want a price increase and content providers don't want to do anything to help ease the bandwidth usage. | |
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pnh102
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| Re: Pointless said by gatorkram :Not everyone has an HD tv yet. And I can tell you use netflix, and already enjoy their high quality downloads.. I refuse to watch most low-def programming anymore. The picture quality is awful... but that's more because of my cable provider then anything else.
said by gatorkram :Oh wait, you don't? What a surprise, a review, and an opinion without seeing or using the product.. I do have Comcast, so I am perfectly qualified to comment on the result of watching a video stream using their Internet service.
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ptrowski
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| Re: Pointless said by pnh102 :said by gatorkram :Not everyone has an HD tv yet. And I can tell you use netflix, and already enjoy their high quality downloads.. I refuse to watch most low-def programming anymore. The picture quality is awful... but that's more because of my cable provider then anything else. said by gatorkram :Oh wait, you don't? What a surprise, a review, and an opinion without seeing or using the product.. I do have Comcast, so I am perfectly qualified to comment on the result of watching a video stream using their Internet service. Do you have Netflix? | |
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pnh102
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| Re: Pointless said by ptrowski :Do you have Netflix? No. I already pay enough money to Comcast to get me all the low-def content that I won't be bothered to watch. Why would I pay someone else money for more low-def content?
Are you suggesting that just because I haven't seen low-def content from Netflix via this service that I shouldn't be commenting? Does Netflix' low-def content "magically get better" because of this offering?
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ptrowski
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| Re: Pointless said by pnh102 :said by ptrowski :Do you have Netflix? No. I already pay enough money to Comcast to get me all the low-def content that I won't be bothered to watch. Why would I pay someone else money for more low-def content? Are you suggesting that just because I haven't seen low-def content from Netflix via this service that I shouldn't be commenting? Does Netflix' low-def content "magically get better" because of this offering? Those are your words, not mine. But you mention watching streaming from Comcast, not from Netflix. Two different things. | |
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pnh102
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| Re: Pointless said by ptrowski :But you mention watching streaming from Comcast, not from Netflix. Two different things. Well, until there's an HD offering, its pointless. 
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pnh102
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| Re: Pointless said by ptrowski :I like the Netflix option as the movies have very little buffer time. I am into instant gratification.  You might also want to consider Redbox and their free Monday rentals.
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| Re: Pointless said by ptrowski :said by pnh102 :said by ptrowski :I like the Netflix option as the movies have very little buffer time. I am into instant gratification. You might also want to consider Redbox and their free Monday rentals. I am not terribly impressed with RedBox. There is one at the local grocery store and the selection seems pretty poor. I don't watch much TV; I don't use my Netflix very much. I won't pay $39/month in order to watch one cable channel.
I find Redbox sufficient for my very occasional boredom-induced need to watch a DVD, and the terms more than reasonable. The selection is very limited, but thats ok.
I expect the Netflix STB will actually be a hit, so long as they make efforts and strides to grow their "instant viewing" library from 10K titles to 50K titles. The internet viewer quality is excellent - it will certainly look good on my NTSC TV. No desire for HD here. | |
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dvd536
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| said by pnh102 :said by ptrowski :I like the Netflix option as the movies have very little buffer time. I am into instant gratification. You might also want to consider Redbox and their free Monday rentals. Tell me more. if this is online only then nevermind.
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Baton Rouge, LA | All over this I am all over this! It really is a great offering for 99 bucks. I may buy buy a few for all of the tv's in the house.
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| Re: All over this I agree with Deadzoned. It's a great idea and not a bad price for the connections that it has.
I won't be running out to buy one today since I would rather wait a bit to see if it shows up on one of the current gen consoles or Media Center. Thus saving me 100 bucks.
As for the selection of instant watch stuff...
I've not watched any of Netflix on-line content in about 6 months. There were lots of documentaries that I wanted to see that I would not would have wanted to have sent to me. So it was great in that regard. The TV series have really expanded. though they will still at time leave a couple of episodes out as being watchable on DVD only.
I didn't browse through the movies much. But the quick glance that I did take showed a few titles that I remember being released on DVD about 6 months or so ago. Plus tons of older titles.
All in all, it's like have a 10k title DVD collection. Even though your friends would really question your sanity on some of your choices of DVD's. And I could think of a lot worse to spend a hundred bucks on. | |
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| how about some selection? First, you need some better choices for what's available online to even make this idea halfway worthwhile.
Second, I don't care. Laptop works fine to pipe video to TV. Guess having a special box makes the people who like DRM happier.
If that's the case, I agree with other posts here - why not partner with Tivo and the cable companies to deliver a "Netflix Channel" with literally ANYTHING on demand???
Maybe someday there will be such a thing, but I won't hold my breath.
Rhapsody is close for music, even with constantly changing selection - movies online should have a similar deal. One should be able to pick out darn near anything and play it. | |
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Phoenix, AZ | BYOPVR I created my own DVR/PVR using a older PC I am using software with a specially created plugin that accesses the Netflix site and allows me to watch it on my tv. It keeps the DRM active so that nothign is being done illegally | |
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BuzzDar
join:2006-01-28
West Frankfort, IL | PS3 I had herd rumors that netflix was gonna team up with PS3 to do the same thing as this box. | |
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| lack of speed Eh, with the current broadband database being limited to people that live in city's and on top of video stores, this doesn't excite me. Anytime those of us that live just on the outskirts get a possible good wireless option it gets FAPed and well, services like this will eat up the 5 gig cap (( read sprints 5 gig cap article ))..
Until some real broadband deployment happens, service's like these will only be available to people that aready have tons of entertainment options, so .. So, its like trying to sell firewood to someone that lives in a "rural" area...
Btw yes this feature is free with subscription.. For now, but once they get a larger amount of people downloading, there will be a sudden "emergency" reason that they have to put a small fee and then milk it from there.. Probably will have something to do with Data throughput cost recovery, or the dreaded RIAA or that one for movies MPAA ? One of them will appear and screw it up, as they always do.. | |
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| hahaha You people honestly think that the major ISP's (cable providers in particular) will allow you to use their cheap bandwidth to stream VIDEO content to your TV's?
It would not make any since for TWC or COMCAST to allow you to pay someone $8.95/month for access to 10000 movies (VOD Services) that they already charge you $3.95/each for.
No, this is a not a technology that will last, since you need to have 28Mbps downstream to maintain an HD stream. Look at this math to prove the HD point, this is for a 25GB Blueray type film, over 2 hours.
((25 GB) / (2 hours)) to Mbps = 28.4444444 Mbps Google
I dont know any ISP's that give you anything close to that speed, espically one that can maintain that for 2 hours.
THE CABLE TV INDUSTRY WILL NOT ALLOW THIS TO EXIST ON THEIR LINES!!! WATCH WHAT I SAY! | |
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| Nice This is a good device for people that don't have a HTPC or consolidate their TV and monitor into one device, which is what I do. I've watched Netflix streaming on my TV/Monitor and its actually very nice, I watched a few movies (2001, its sequel, and something else) The picture quality was actually very good but I was on my new 10meg pipe instead of 1.5 so I was given the best picture, Netflix checks your speed and decides what quality to give you.
The Movie scaled to full scree on the 37 inch Monitor nicely it was better than some digital I've seen on some local provider.
The way I look at watch it now is if you are an extreme movie buff you can watch movies while you wait on your turnaround time. This IS NOT a replacement for the mail service but a supplement and while I wish for later movies they are always adding what they are allowed and there is tons to access now. | |
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| Re: Nice Ah crud I forgot that I was going to mention that I can see the need for an Open STB, not a full HTPC (could be) but at least a net connected one with a good amount of power and capability.
As companies turn to the web as a distribution medium they are going to want to target the TV, the one in the living room of the masses that don't want to know that TCP/IP is or just how man pixels is in 720p or 1080p, just that you plug this here, that there, and the last one to the TV and you are ready to go.
If there is no inclusive solution that would consolidate most to all these services we will end up with many boxes doing basically the same thing for different companies. | |
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| Opera If the Netflix player worked with the Opera browser I wouldn't need this box. My Wii uses opera, if Netflix instant movies worked with Opera I could just browse to it via my Wii and not have to hook up my laptop to my TV like I do now. I'll just keep emailing customer service but likely will never see this happen | |
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| Re: Opera said by photochick11 :
If the Netflix player worked with the Opera browser I wouldn't need this box. My Wii uses opera, if Netflix instant movies worked with Opera I could just browse to it via my Wii and not have to hook up my laptop to my TV like I do now. I'll just keep emailing customer service but likely will never see this happen
I have not seen any decent streaming video via my Wii.
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