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Netflix Signs Another 28 Day Delay Pact With Sony
Giving users additional incentive to buy DVDs pirate
by Karl Bode Wednesday 06-Oct-2010 tags: Video · business · alternatives · content
At the beginning of the year, Netflix began signing deals with the movie studios that would give them broader access to licenses for broadband streaming, in exchange for delaying the rental of new films for 28 days. After signing such deals with Warner Brothers, Universal, and Twentieth Century Fox, they've now struck a similar deal with Sony. As with previous such deals, users who enjoy new releases lose out:

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Swasey wouldn’t release other details, but we can guess that the deal follows the pattern established with the precedent Netflix set in its January deal with Warner: Netflix agrees not to rent Sony’s (SNE) movies for the first 28 days after they go on sale. In return, it will pay the studio a reduced fee when it does rent the discs, and will get more movies to offer via its growing Web streaming service.

In the head of the protectionist studio executive, this delay allows them to sell more physical DVDs, and gives them the ability to offer Netflix competitors like Blockbuster a tactical advantage through paying to get new releases immediately (not that this helped Blockbuster). Execs tend to ignore that by making it harder for customers to rent content (either via broadband or mail), they may be more inclined to simply pirate these titles -- not buy them.

Meanwhile Warner Brothers, one of the first companies to strike such a delayed release deal with Netflix, this week proclaimed that DVD sales shot up 15% as a result of these deals. However as Mike Masnick at Techdirt notes, correlation does not imply causation, and that surge could have come from anywhere -- like the release of a string of more popular films. One exec has this to say about the deals:

"You make money in the film business by putting your content in appropriate windows that matches up with the way consumers like to use it."

In reality, the film industry's always done the exact opposite. While these deals do get more streaming titles to users, these new release delay efforts simply add another layer of annoyance and confusion. Generally, studios continue to annoy customers by constricting broadband streaming licensing in the first place, and creating additional delays in consumers obtaining the content, -- all to temporarily prop up the physical media market in the face of broadband delivery.

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badtrip
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Well by the time it hits DVDs....

I've already waited 6 months to a year (don't go to the movie theater). Another 28 days don't mean anything to me.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

Yeah, I agree with this. I probably won't notice either way.

It still continually surprises me, though, the number of utterly arcane and borderline psychotic controls placed on -- of all things in the structure of global importance -- moving pictures. Oh well...it's a function of the amount of money involved.
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said by badtrip:

I've already waited 6 months to a year (don't go to the movie theater). Another 28 days don't mean anything to me.
Me either. I can wait and if it keeps Netflix prices low, all the better.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

said by ThrowDemsOut:

said by badtrip:

I've already waited 6 months to a year (don't go to the movie theater). Another 28 days don't mean anything to me.
Me either. I can wait and if it keeps Netflix prices low, all the better.
Funny how their pricing never changes... They added a cost for BluRay a while back. How dose it keep costs down when they raise them lol
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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

However, their online library has grown since then. You're still getting more bang-for-your-buck out of today's larger video market for the same monthly fee you've always paid.
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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

So would you say for every 10 movies they add they should raise the rate $.10 or maybe every 1000 movies they raise it $1?

Point being that just because they add more movies does not in anyway mean it, as an absolute, has added more value.

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Nothing like growing an online library of foriegn, old, and B title movies. When those new releases wait their 28 days and hit the online library at the same time they hit the physical disc rental then we'll be making progress.

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said by Defiance82:

]Funny how their pricing never changes... They added a cost for BluRay a while back. How dose it keep costs down when they raise them lol
That's not raising the cost. That's what they call in the business a value added service. Netflix's standard pricing has been the same for a while. Actually it appears the price has come down a little bit when you compare with their pricing scheme when they first hit the market. Blu-Ray players are not nearly as common as DVD players. It's reasonable for Netflix to ask for a little upcharge for Blu-Rays. Especially if their standard rates are the same.

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As long as they don't keep locking out the DVD controls - making you watch 15 minutes of previews and commercials to see the title. I've had a few of these.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

said by SLD:

As long as they don't keep locking out the DVD controls - making you watch 15 minutes of previews and commercials to see the title. I've had a few of these.
A possible cure for that annoyance...

enter STOP, STOP, MENU and see if that doesn't get you right
to the actual movie's menu screen, bypassing all the junk. OR,
while the promos are running, enter EJECT, and repeat above after LOAD disk. This is hit or miss for me but usually works.
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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

Since my TV has a computer hooked up to it, usually I'll rip and copy the DVD into the computer straight out of the Netflix envelope before I even bother watching it. The ripping software strips out all the previews and leaves the main menues and title intact.

While the rip and copy is happening, I'm making myself pop corn and serving myself a soft drink. By the time it finishes, it's movie time.


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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

I'm sure you erase that rip as soon as you return the physical disc.
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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

Uhh... Sure

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

said by Network Guy:

Uhh... Sure
So if one pirates a rental movie, who exactly is future revenue being withheld from? Neflix, the Studio, or both?
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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

If I were sharing the deleted files via torrents, I suppose both.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

said by Network Guy:

If I were sharing the deleted files via torrents, I suppose both.
Not really sure, if I understood correctly the Studio gets some money on each rental. I suppose Netflix doesn't really care other than you might up your number of DVDs out at one time if you didn't rip.

I suppose the studio could make the argument that most people wouldn't pay a monthly fee just to hold onto the same movie for 2-3 years, they would buy it if they liked it that much. Since they get more revenue off the purchase, perhaps you're withholding that revenue from them.
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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

The studios or Netflix can think I'm withholding their expected revenue all they want. Different strokes for different folks.. Everyone likes to consume their choice of media in their own way. Some still like the novelty of buying a DVD copy, some like downloading the same DRM-ladden content online, some like to rip and copy from their local video store or online DVD rental service.

Unfortunately for the studios, there's still a vast majority of consumers who like consuming their content in the same traditional media that's easily pirated and the major internet carriers in the US are still busy buying off Congress in order not to deploy uniform broadband access.

I mean.. I've yet to discover anyone who can easily pirate an online stream from Netflix, nor have I witnessed studios and internet carriers develop an online rental platform that feasibly replaces the physical media experience.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

said by Network Guy:

The studios or Netflix can think I'm withholding their expected revenue all they want. Different strokes for different folks.. Everyone likes to consume their choice of media in their own way. Some still like the novelty of buying a DVD copy, some like downloading the same DRM-ladden content online, some like to rip and copy from their local video store or online DVD rental service.
Ahhh so you're saying you prefer to consume your media by playing it from a HD. I do to.

I don't rip copies to my media server of movies I rent. I don't own those movies. I'm merely renting them and have rights as long as I have the media in hand. If it is a movie I wish to enjoy multiple times, I'll buy it then rip it to my server. More often than not this ends up being kids movies (hehe).

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said by old_dawg:

enter STOP, STOP, MENU and see if that doesn't get you right
to the actual movie's menu screen, bypassing all the junk. OR,
while the promos are running, enter EJECT, and repeat above after LOAD disk. This is hit or miss for me but usually works.
If this is what is required to skip the junk on DVDs, god is dead.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

said by morbo:

said by old_dawg:

enter STOP, STOP, MENU and see if that doesn't get you right
to the actual movie's menu screen, bypassing all the junk. OR,
while the promos are running, enter EJECT, and repeat above after LOAD disk. This is hit or miss for me but usually works.
If this is what is required to skip the junk on DVDs, god is dead.
It's not. Just fast forward for God's sake. It's like two button presses per preview. Why would you eject and reload the disc?

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

My personal experience is that I can fast forward through some screens but not others. I don't know the pattern, but it's enough for me to prefer digital downloads and streaming and other ways of obtaining content than DVDs and Bluray.

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I've used the stop-stop trick. But most DVDs prevent you from using STOP after loading the disc.

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said by SLD:

As long as they don't keep locking out the DVD controls - making you watch 15 minutes of previews and commercials to see the title. I've had a few of these.
I have never had a rented blu-ray that you couldn't fast forward through the previews. True, you can't skip it all together, but on the PS3 if you hit ff 2 or 3 times the comercial is over in two seconds. I don't see what the big deal is...

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

Maybe the PS3 doesn't abide by the publisher's lock-outs but WMC and my DVD player do.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

Skip will move to the next index marker which is typically the next preview. 3-4 skips on a DVD normally takes me to the menu.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

Yeah, but SKIP and all the other controls are typically locked out on most NetFlix DVDs until you get into the previews. That can take up to a minute of stupid warnings and studio logos.

Lately, even the movie ratings are sometimes locked. Why DVD editors want to force you to view these things blows my mind.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

Soon as the Netflix previews start, Skip->Skip->Skip Movie menu. I still have to look a the FBI warning, but I move through the previews easy enough.

SRFireside

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NetFlix doesn't lock out controls on DVDs. They are the exact same ones you would buy at the store. It's the studios that are locking them out. I recall Paramount is one of the biggest offenders on that front. Makes me not want to buy any of their disks... ever.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

I know, but I'm paying NetFlix directly for this crap. I don't blame them directly, but perhaps they could put some pressure on the studios to stop trying to control the consumer.

SRFireside

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

You're paying Netflix a whole lot less than you would if you bought the discs yourself or were renting from somewhere else. Netflix is in business to give us convenient and cheap rentals. They don't have much of a position to tell studios how to format their content. The studios make more money when people buy their movies so what can Netlix say? And lets face it; people are more interested in getting the movie than sending a message to the studios that they don't like being force fed commercials on something pay paid for.

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

Are you kidding? NetFlix is the largest distributor of DVD rentals in the world. Of course they have a lot of clout to negotiate better product for their consumer.

As an example, Walmart managed to get a number of artists to re-record entire songs to qualify for their "standards".

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Doesn't bother me one bit either. I can wait a whole month longer just to get it sent to me and not burn gas to run to the video store to find the video store only got 5 copies and they all got rented out as soon as they opened that day. If I have to wait then I have to wait.

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said by badtrip:

I've already waited 6 months to a year (don't go to the movie theater). Another 28 days don't mean anything to me.
My sentiments exactly.

If you didn't already go to the theatre, 28 days isn't going to do anything.
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I don't go to the theater either. I have no problem waiting.
Haven't even watched Avatar and Star Trek yet and I love Sci-fi.
Might watch it sometime this winter. They won't spoil like produce Or any thing.
Maybe added scenes that were deleted for the big screen....more value.

Know a few people who has to see the movie before everyone else.
I don't get it
It's only a movie.

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me too

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Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

I can wait, I stream most of the time anyway. Netflix just got a great collection of Anime, I'll be busy watching that for a couple of weeks.
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while another 28d is no biggie in the scheme of things it is still kind of sad that the movie industry does this to what is likely one of their best routes to legal consumption of their product.
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Plus, with the lower DVD prices Netflix is paying, they can buy more of the new release DVDs. How many Netflix users would really get that new release DVD within the 28 day span anyway? I'd rather wait the month (or more as I have a lot of stuff in my queue) and get more streaming titles.
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LOL

quote:
"You make money in the film business by putting your content in appropriate windows that matches up with the way consumers like to use it."
LOL. All this has ALWAYS been about is them telling *YOU* how, when, where, and how much it will cost for you to use it the way they want!

LOL
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Seems oddly written

This article is written and others in the past about his topic in a negative light.

I just do not understand this.

You do realize that this 28 day delay only applies to getting those titles through netflix?

If one wants to they are not restricted in anyway from getting a new release title from another source such as REDBOX or other rental outlet.

There is an exchange as well for that 28 day delay, that is more titles available in streaming format.

That is a positive.

If I wrote the article I would have spun the story in that positive light.

Also regarding the pirateing of titles is not affected by this kind of deal in my opinion.

Pirateing happens because people want to get things without paying, many times just because they can, wheter they really want it or not.

It is just the thrill of getting something that is "hot"

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Re: Seems oddly written

I'm not sure how consumers being able to get Titles quickly from Netflix to consumers now having artificial cool-down periods is beneficial to those customers, nor to Netflix vs competitors.

However, the upside is that Sony will allow more of their content library to be streamed by Netflix (albeit older releases) there is that win, for the growing streaming crowd.
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Re: Seems oddly written

said by KrK:

However, the upside is that Sony will allow more of their content library to be streamed by Netflix (albeit older releases) there is that win, for the growing streaming crowd.
And that crowd will start growing ever more quickly, what with the $99 AppleTV selling like crazy and Netflix being one of the services highlighted for use on that system.
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said by BoulderHill1:

This article is written and others in the past about his topic in a negative light.

I just do not understand this.

You do realize that this 28 day delay only applies to getting those titles through netflix?

If one wants to they are not restricted in anyway from getting a new release title from another source such as REDBOX or other rental outlet.
Redbox has made similar deals with some studios. They are also holding back some new releases for 4 weeks. But DVD Express has not. They are not as widespread, and the cost is a bit higher than Redbox, at $1.50/per night, but you might find there the ones missing at Netflix and Redbox. For example, Robin Hood and the new Nightmare on Elm Street are at DVD Exspress now, but not at Redbox. So if you are one of those must see it the week it comes out people, there are other alternatives.

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elray

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What's 28 days?

Sorry, but I don't see how anyone "loses" with this arrangement.

This is exactly how it should be priced - first run carries a huge premium, and the price decays exponentially thereafter.

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Re: What's 28 days?

said by elray:

This is exactly how it should be priced - first run carries a huge premium, and the price decays exponentially thereafter.
However in this case, that's not exactly how it is. Netflix isn't getting a reduction in price for delaying the release of their copies, they are still paying the same price. They just have to "pay the additional price" of waiting 28 days to gain access to the studio's catalog of movies.
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Re: What's 28 days?

said by cdru:

said by elray:

This is exactly how it should be priced - first run carries a huge premium, and the price decays exponentially thereafter.
However in this case, that's not exactly how it is. Netflix isn't getting a reduction in price for delaying the release of their copies, they are still paying the same price. They just have to "pay the additional price" of waiting 28 days to gain access to the studio's catalog of movies.
Says right in the article that Netflix will pay less for the rental discs now.
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said by boredguy:

Says right in the article that Netflix will pay less for the rental discs now.
Apparently I glossed over that part. Oops.
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said by cdru:

said by elray:

This is exactly how it should be priced - first run carries a huge premium, and the price decays exponentially thereafter.
However in this case, that's not exactly how it is. Netflix isn't getting a reduction in price for delaying the release of their copies, they are still paying the same price. They just have to "pay the additional price" of waiting 28 days to gain access to the studio's catalog of movies.
While it does reduce Netflix' cost, I was referring to the end consumer cost. The studios are wising up. They are beginning to understand how to milk the maximum rental value - PPV / premium prices can only be sustained for a month. Most of the time, I'd rather just wait an extra interval, whatever that may be, and have it included in the monthly flat-rate, OR have the PPV cost drop to $1 or less. Netflix' 28 day deal further cements the concept.

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Big woop! 28 days.

Who cares?! I'll wait.
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mull the options

another delay, might as well consider other options.. such as the libarary or piracy both are free and have the potential to be faster than netflix horrible agreements!

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Re: mull the options

said by tpbafk :

another delay, might as well consider other options.. such as the libarary or piracy both are free and have the potential to be faster than netflix horrible agreements!
What he said.

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said by Karl Bode:

Giving users additional incentive to buy DVDs pirate
Couldn't have said it better myself...
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fine by me

I am hopeful that more movies that don't suck are available to stream, but not holding my breath.

Seems like the Warner deal brought a few more to stream, but it's hard to tell with how poorly organized their site is.

I think they intentionally confuse people, and make Silverlight streams run at low bandwidth to force people to use Xbox or other devices that do higher quality WMV based streams...

Whatever, I don't care about the delayed DVD rentals. I'll support my local rental shop if it's something I'm really itching to see or throw it in the queue for later...
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Netflix sucks now

its only gonna get worse cause soon they will conjure up new prices for streaming more content next and they want studios to sell more dvd's. also there are people out there who want to get there dvd's or blu rays the day they are released other wise you either have to buy dvd/ blu ray pay 4.99 to watch it on pay per view like directv dish network or cable company. or even pay a download or premium price to download online. also you want the new release it takes you back to renting from going to drive to your video store to rent also. so there are people who liked this convenience that was the one of the whole points of renting online. you want to pay for an online rental membership and pay to wait 28 days - no thanks. i am a netflix customer who is cancelling my membership and going elsewhere to get my new releases the day they come out that is blockbuster.com. if netflix does not back to that way of renting i'm not interested. they are only helping the studios sell more dvd's/blu rays. goodbye netflix.
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Re: Netflix sucks now

the problem now is that all of the movie rental places where i live have closed down... the only way to get movies now is through redbox... there are three redbox, one dvdplay and one blockbuster kiosk to supply 20,000 people... and redbox has a similer deal with studios as well.... i won't buy dvd's nor go to the movies... soi think that with movie rental companies closing down and the limited availability to rent , i think the studios are hurting them selves...

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Well, patience is a virtue (and its cheaper too). And Netflix is so much better than Blockbuster.

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a lot can happen in 28 days

haven't any of you seen the movie 28 days later?!

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I can't remember the last time I've been to the movies . . . sometime the last decade I think. They are way overpriced and filled with rude, annoying, noisy people with cell phones ringing every 5 minutes. If I can't watch the movie I want to see in the comfort of my own home, then I'm not really interested in seeing it.

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tglea

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When

So when do we start seeing all these new movies to stream? Haven't noticed a whole lot different lately.
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This explains why Red Box has New Releases...

way before Netflix does. I thought they were just messin with me on wait times.
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redbox delays too

Redbox delays too. They signed up with one company to delay those. Eventually they will sign up with the rest just like netflix is doing. They get cheaper discs usually half off which helps their profits. Netflix did the delay for the streaming and Redbox doing it for movies. Some companies were starting to try and shut off their suppliers and Redbox had to keep finding different ways to get the movies. Thats one reason the Hangover cover was different.

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DVD sales increase?

Meanwhile Warner Brothers, this week proclaimed that DVD sales shot up 15% as a result of these deals

Maybe DVD sales increased because wal-mart keeps making the older ones down to $5 or less.

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Re: DVD sales increase?

said by BF69:

Meanwhile Warner Brothers, this week proclaimed that DVD sales shot up 15% as a result of these deals

Maybe DVD sales increased because wal-mart keeps making the older ones down to $5 or less.
and redbox is getting dvds from walmarts
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pirating

I don't buy the argument that the movie studios extending an exclusivity window somehow excuses piracy. I'm sure the folks out there downloading Get Him to the Greek off of the Pirate Bay were only doing so because they couldn't get it from Netflix. Oh wait, that's right ... it's not because it's unavailable from Netflix, it's because they're a bunch of freeloading thieves.

People who are going to steal movies will steal them regardless. You're just parroting their excuse for doing so. Just because an artist has not provided their work in a way that you deem convenient for you does not entitle you to steal it.

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Re: pirating

said by goillini:

I don't buy the argument that the movie studios extending an exclusivity window somehow excuses piracy. I'm sure the folks out there downloading Get Him to the Greek off of the Pirate Bay were only doing so because they couldn't get it from Netflix. Oh wait, that's right ... it's not because it's unavailable from Netflix, it's because they're a bunch of freeloading thieves.

People who are going to steal movies will steal them regardless. You're just parroting their excuse for doing so. Just because an artist has not provided their work in a way that you deem convenient for you does not entitle you to steal it.
No one is saying it excuses pirating. Well some of the pro-pirating assholes do but most moral people don't. BUT when you make something harder to obtain you do increase the likelyhood of it happening. And face it the studios have no reason to make it harder other than to prop up a DYING and OUTDATED business model.
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And the sad part is many of them make money and can afford to buy or rent a few per month.

But why do that when you have get away mentality.

If shoplifting was punished with warning or fines instead jail, we would have robbed places in nearly every place.

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Number of movies on streaming

OK a check of the top 60 grossing movies of 2009 show 21 are available for streaming. Now I will say that this is better than last year when less than a half a dozen of the top 60 of 2008 were available. But still it's only 35%. Very movie that been out on DVD for a year or more should be on streaming.

WOW just checked. Still just 3 of the top 60 movies of 2008 and ZERO from the top 60 from 2007 are available for streaming.

Just decresed the chances of me subscribing to Netflix anytime soon.
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Re: Number of movies on streaming

The new movies aren't really worth it on netflix anyway. Netflix is good for obscure stuff. TV shows and foreign things like anime. Besides new releases you usually have to wait a month after they are released anyway. Netflix DVD rental cues on new releases especially movies can take forever. Took me about 2 months to get Avatar after it was released on Netflix. After seeing it I can't see what all the hype was for either. Glad I saved 20 bucks there. Thanks Netflix. As for their streaming all I can say it could use some work. Constantly stops and buffers. Even tried it out on a friend of mines cable connection. Did the same thing. Streaming not ready for prime time in my opinion.

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Re: Number of movies on streaming

said by bumwolf:

As for their streaming all I can say it could use some work. Constantly stops and buffers. Even tried it out on a friend of mines cable connection. Did the same thing. Streaming not ready for prime time in my opinion.
Sorry, it must be your connection or hardware because I've been streaming from Netflix since they offered it and I haven't noticed that at all. Very rarely do I get a buffer screen and when I do it's because my connection speed took a dip. My fiance and I stream on two different tvs at the same time and don't have a problem, and I only have a 10 mbps connection.

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Re: Number of movies on streaming

said by bionicRod:

said by bumwolf:

As for their streaming all I can say it could use some work. Constantly stops and buffers. Even tried it out on a friend of mines cable connection. Did the same thing. Streaming not ready for prime time in my opinion.
Sorry, it must be your connection or hardware because I've been streaming from Netflix since they offered it and I haven't noticed that at all. Very rarely do I get a buffer screen and when I do it's because my connection speed took a dip. My fiance and I stream on two different tvs at the same time and don't have a problem, and I only have a 10 mbps connection.
Have no problem streaming Netflix on my iPad using 3G down to 2 bars.

I am using a the Virgin mobile Pay-as-you-go usb card for my main home internet for a while and Netflix even streams fine after some buffing and plays through. My dl speed is usually around .9 to 1.6mbps.

Don't even watch much tv anymore.
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I would have to say you have an issue on your end if your streaming experience is not good.

I onlly have a 3meg connection and never once in two years have seen stop and buffers. Sometimes we are streaming two shows at the same. One on a Roku and onther on a laptop.

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No time to watch what I want now

Sorry, Karl... but, I doubt too many folks will be all that bothered. I know you generally slant your articles with an opinion/emphasis towards "the people get screwed again by so and so big corporation", and more than not, you're usually right. This time, it's like whatever. I don't have enough time to watch the things I want to watch as it is. I'll record shows and never watch them or a Netflix movie will arrive and just sit on a table for several days, sometimes a lot longer. I think I'm about to cancel Netflix, and if I really want to see a certain movie and have the time, I'll just order it through pay-per-view.

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In the mean time...

Im downloading it and watching it before anyone else knows its out!!! I WIN I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
pcme2000

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Netflix

They just keep adding older shows and movies to the streaming.

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Re: Netflix

said by pcme2000:

They just keep adding older shows and movies to the streaming.
The horror...

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