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Netflix Signs Off On Another Exclusive Series
Matrix and Babylon 5 Creators to Create 'Sense8'
by Karl Bode 06:37PM Wednesday Mar 27 2013
Like the company did with "House and Cards" and "Arrested Development," Netflix continues to push into original programming with the announcement that they'll be producing a new series by Matrix creators the Wachowskis and Babylon 5 creator Joe Straczynski. According to a company statement, "Sense8" is a new sci-fi program and "a gripping global tale of minds linked and souls hunted" scheduled to premiere in late 2014. Amazon has also been making a push into more original series, also announcing this week that they've signed off on "Zombieland," a TV adaptation of the 2009 film. Both companies are looking to draw in more subscribers while performing an end-around of skyrocketing content licensing costs.

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Another Netflix original series starts on April 19

Netflix is releasing another original series this April 19 - Hemlock Grove.
»www.boomtron.com/2013/03/hemlock···x-order/

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Re: Another Netflix original series starts on April 19

And last year saw the bizarre but entertaining "Lillyhammer". I enjoyed the American remake of "House of Cards" (Spacey's spin on his role was rather nice). It's been a pleasant surprise, so far, seeing what Netflix and Amazon are doing by throwing their hats into the original content arena.
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Sigh

Netflix, you KNOW what people want. It's great that JMS is doing sci-fi for you, but what we really want is Firefly.

It doesn't matter that the cast have other obligations right now, or that Joss Whedon is busy with Marvel for the next while. Get the deals signed, schedule production for 2014 or 2015 or whenever is required, and then announce the thing now. The goodwill you will generate among geeks will be insane.
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Re: Sigh

Never watched it, but I heard excellent things about it.

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Oh Boy!!! if Netflix start making serious SciFi shows I am in. I am a gigantic B5 fan, and I am still pissed at what happened to the cancelled series Excaliber. These are some the best scifi series ever on TV.
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Re: Sigh

said by Transmaster:

Oh Boy!!! if Netflix start making serious SciFi shows I am in. I am a gigantic B5 fan, and I am still pissed at what happened to the cancelled series Excaliber. These are some the best scifi series ever on TV.

Apparently you're not a big enough fan of B5; The canceled series was called Crusade. Excalibur was the name of the ship.

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Re: Sigh

It's interesting... I've seen a number of posts from B5 fans who made that same mistake with the Crusade series name... must have been something subliminal (Psi Corps !) going on?
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Re: Sigh

whats funny I just spent 10 mins tiring to find this show so I could maybe see it if it sounded good. Being as it's Crusade I already got got it but yet to watch it.
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I watched every episode of Babylon 5 when it came out. I watched all of the movies when they came out. I re-watched both about half a year ago. Never saw Crusade, though I did see "A Call to Arms" and wasn't overly impressed. I pre-ordered "The Lost Tales" on Amazon and was beyond disappointed. I know he had no budget for sets and effects, but what to hell happened to his writing talents? He seriously makes a vomit joke in "The Lost Tales", which wasn't even all that funny in the context, and hardly up to the caliber of his previous writings.

With the benefit of adulthood and hindsight, I'm not convinced that Babylon 5 was really all that great. Some of the major story arcs (the Shadows, and the Earth-Minbari war) had deus ex machina endings or were completely contrived to begin with. JMS gave short shrift to his best and most relatable story arc -- the Earth Civil War -- and what followed in Season 5 was mostly mediocre standalone episodes, albeit with three or four stellar episodes mixed in.

It's worth noting that a lot of the same criticisms can be made of Deep Space Nine, which is interesting because a lot of B5'ers believe that DS9 ripped off their show. DS9 had the same deus ex machina endings, a lead character that started out as a normal human being and turned into a religious messiah, and interesting story arcs that went nowhere/were cut off before fully developed.

Don't get me wrong, both shows had some truly amazing characters. Garek is probably my favorite character from any Star Trek series. Michael Garibaldi and Miles O'Brien are the archetypical viewpoint characters, both flawed, both very relatable, and both were guys you'd want watching your six in a gunfight. Londo Mollari and G'Kar were my favorite characters in Babylon 5, and probably had the best series long story arc. Bester was one of the best Sci-Fi villains ever and Walter Koenig absolutely nailed him. It's just hard to get past the megalomania of Sheridan and Delenn, and the show revolves around them to such an extent that you can't really separate them from it.

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Re: Sigh

One of the problems with B5 was JMS intended it to last for five seasons, however it was going to be ended after season four by the network. He therefore had to condense it down to end the Civil War arc and such. After getting picked up by Turner, the fifth season had to be kinda filled-in from what I remember.

Also check out how many episodes JMS personally wrote himself, as far as I know it still stands as most episodes written by one person for a season/series. And I am still amazed at the CGI considering it was generated on aging Amiga machines... the CGI in the secession episode in season three was delivered mere minutes prior to broadcast.

The sequel series was forced into more of a "western in space" by Turner, which is how it went downhill so quickly.

Some of the speeches, especially with G'Kar, I thought were amazing to see in a Sci-Fi series.
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Re: Sigh

said by Sodoshi:

And I am still amazed at the CGI considering it was generated on aging Amiga machines... the CGI in the secession episode in season three was delivered mere minutes prior to broadcast.

I'm of a mixed opinion on CGI in Sci-Fi. I've been re-watching The Next Generation on Netflix and there's just something graceful about the way the Enterprise-D moves when filmed as a model. Too often CGI treats these supposedly huge warships like fighter planes. You can see this in the newer Star Trek movies, later episodes of DS9, and other Sci-Fi series.

Babylon 5 wasn't guilty of this during the TV run as I recall, they actually seemed to do good things with CGI in that show, which was pretty amazing given the technology they had access to. The BSG remake did a good job too, though I don't know enough about the production of that show to know if they used models, CGI, or both?

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Re: Sigh

CG can be convincing. Some of the shots of the enterprise were replaced with CG in the blurays (they used model shots wherever possible, but sometimes the camera negatives couldn't be found, or there was some major error with them that needed to be fixed that they let slide when the show aired on TV).

The thing is, you can't tell which shots are CG and which are the models. They've replicated the appearance and movement exactly, and it looks completely seamless to the audience. There are a few shots that people swore must have been replaced by CG that weren't, and a few shots that people insisted must be models that were CG.

So, the point is, CG for spaceships at least, can look as good (or even identical) to model shots, IF the artist takes the time and effort to do it right. The guy who did the spaceship CG work for S1 of the TNG blurays is a superfan who went above and beyond and built a super accurate CG version of the physical models (even producing different CG models to reflect the differences between the real-world physical models, since the 4-foot and 6-foot models look nothing alike), and he replicated the surface texture/reflection and lighting perfectly. But there's nothing stopping from somebody producing something of similar quality for some new show.
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hearing him talk about it pretty much each season was seen as the last one. they filmed the final show during they even made season 5.

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Firefly would be ok.. But I'd donate 100 bucks to Make a wish if they re-launched Farscape. Now that was some damn good sci-fi.

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Re: Sigh

said by Snakeoil:

Firefly would be ok.. But I'd donate 100 bucks to Make a wish if they re-launched Farscape. Now that was some damn good sci-fi.

Farscape was an awesome series. I would be right there with ya at the donation counter!

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So pissed that removed it from netflix. I was not done made it to season 3 then did not watch it for months and then it was gone
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why not have a premium sci-fi channel?? also it's needs to be on more then just netflix at least dish / directv need to have it as well.
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Re: Sigh

said by Joe12345678:

why not have a premium sci-fi channel?? also it's needs to be on more then just netflix at least dish / directv need to have it as well.

They tried that once. It started off good and then turned to crap.
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Netflix needs the BBC catalog

So far HoC showed Netflix can pull exclusives off well but I wish they could get the entire BBC catalog as most isnt available in the States w/out torrenting. BBC shows, especially educational, are far better than the sensationalized American produced junk. Science Channel`s best content comes from BBC, the rest is sensationalized or lacks scientific integrity.

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Re: Netflix needs the BBC catalog

I want another season of Luther. OMG, that show rocked.

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said by xenophon:

So far HoC showed Netflix can pull exclusives off well but I wish they could get the entire BBC catalog as most isnt available in the States w/out torrenting. BBC shows, especially educational, are far better than the sensationalized American produced junk. Science Channel`s best content comes from BBC, the rest is sensationalized or lacks scientific integrity.

I really like Netflix, but I'm very concerned that they're heading towards the same cardinal mistake that cable companies made.

We're all screwed the moment that something "the majority" wants, demands high monthly fees.

I can see it already - "Hey everyone! We've reached a deal with ESPN, and will be streaming live sports content now! By the way, the monthly fee is now $29.00/month. Enjoy!"
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Re: Netflix needs the BBC catalog

i wish i would love that deal for 29.00 a month

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said by xenophon:

Nah...What Netflix needs is more Martial Arts flicks...
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said by xenophon:

I wish [Netflix] could get the entire BBC catalog.

If the UK restored and licensed all the non-destroyed content they've made and updated some of the factual content it would satisfy 70% of my TV appetite for life. Their golden era production caliber put the rest of the world to shame and current production, taken in aggregate, remains above that of other English speaking countries.

Hopefully not too many more years (like, say, next month) before these ridiculous licensing regions go away. Just put the stuff out there and sell it already. One edit, one title.

Bravo to Netflix distribution disruptions. I'm lovin' it.

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SG

Since they signed a deal with disney, they should consider going for stargate.
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Re: SG

doesn't SCIfi / syfy still own some rights to stargate??

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To be honest I don't know. I though stargate was mgm.

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SyFy only has the TV rights (much like Fox only has the TV rights to Firefly), so any physical media or digital release (like DVD or Netflix) would not require permission/involvement from SyFy. Consider that the SG-1 movies that came out after SG-1 was cancelled did not involve SyFy, only MGM.
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Netflix is releasing another original series this April 19 - Hemlock Grove.
»www.boomtron.com/2013/03/hemlock···x-order/
This looks like it'll be werewolves, and they are coming out with a zombie series, I guess up next will be vampires. These genre's have been done to death. I'd like to see some space scifi series.
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Odyssey 5

How about bringing back Odyssey 5 instead? Showtime gave the axe to that before the first season had even aired.