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 | | | Re: An awful lot of money depending on entitlement generation Yes, they are laying out some serious cash...but I don't think it's a bad investment. They aren't staying stagnant and are trying to grow their business according to their proposed model. If you have a good, well run company like Netflix, offering a service for a fair price, that customers obviously like, use, and pay for...then they will be successful. Plus every electronics device now is coming Netflix-ready. My family members have new TVs and are going to subscribe to Netflix just to take advantage of the feature.
I wish I got in on Netflix stock, but their stock price tells me that they're doing good business and they are executing their plan successfully.
As for the service, I love it. I stream it to my tvs from my media center PC. There's always something to catch up on and I've suspended my DirecTV service. Between Netflix and streaming channels online, I may just jettison TV service permanently because honestly, i haven't missed it at all. | |
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|  JeffreyWilpon please sell the MetsPremium
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1 edit | said by Romney2012:Netflix is laying out an awful lot of money expecting the "entitlement generation" to actually pay for their entertainment. What do you mean here, exactly? I'm sure there is some truth to it, but I think it's a rather broad generalization.
When I was young, we didn't have cable (or thus, a cable bill), cell phones, or anything really that was a monthly automatic recurring charge. There was no "online entertainment" - if you had cable, you had MTV and that was about it. If you wanted entertainment, you headed down to the local Arcade, or you went to your buddy's place who was the one kid you know that had Colecovision.
These days, I have plenty of recurring monthly charges directly related to our entertainment. Cell phones, Netflix, Xbox Live, just to name a few. I'm sure there is something else that I'm forgetting.
When I joined Netflix years ago, I thought the idea of receiving DVDs by mail was awesome. No need to go out to Blockbuster, which was good, since the liklihood of Blockbuster having my movie in stock was low. Now, a few years later, getting DVDs by mail almost seems a bit archaic, with everything being streamed these days.
Now, $1 Billion. That is a large some of money, and I do wonder about that ROI, but I assume someone at Netflix knows what they're doing - or not. To me, it seems like a good investment because I'm one of those people that loves my Netflix subscription for the streaming capabilities. My wife and I fire up my Xbox 360 and the Netflix component each week to watch Prison Break from S1E1 on, as we missed the show when it aired. The fact that every episode from each season is available to us in great quality is something we really enjoy. It works, it works well, and we use it. Happy to pay for something like that. (Now, if my 5th Xbox 360 can steay healthy, this would be fantastic.  )
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| As a member of "the entitlement generation" I can say that I am a happy netflix subscriber, because they offer a quality service that does want I want for a price that I am willing to pay for it. I even tried to sign up for Hulu premium, but I didn't get into that beta since that's another service that offers me something I would be willing to pay for.
Give me on demand high quality content with a large backlog so I can watch what I want when I want, and I will pay for it. You can call that entitlement if you want, but I don't like being forced to pay a cable bill the subsidizes sporting events instead of letting me pay for what I want to watch, and right now that seems to be the option that cable and satellite providers like trying to push. | |
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| | | Yes, I rather feel "entitled" to getting more out of the money I spend on Netflix. I like this move. | |
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| | Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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kudos:4 | Re: An awful lot of money depending on entitlement generation said by saiga6360:Yes, I rather feel "entitled" to getting more out of the money I spend on Netflix. I like this move. Will you like it as much when Netflix raises prices to cover their increased expenses.
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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|  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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| I disagree. I think Netflix is being very smart and they are running with the ball that so many other big players have fumbled on the field. They are setting themselves up to be the de-facto market leader with a massive library of content that you can't get anywhere else. Right now Netflix dances to the Studio's tune--- but it could be one day, maybe not so far off, the Studio's are being played like a piano by Netflix.
I see good things ahead for them. The most serious threat of course is the ISP's trying to come with their low caps/high overages to protect their own video markets.
The only thing I see that could kill Netflix is if they are legislated out of business by bad law and poor policy to do with Broadband and high speed internet. Very possible with Lobbyist controlled Washington.
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Port Orange, FL | Netflix is exactly what the "entitlement" generation has been looking for in a company. It is one of the few big companies online who get it. They are at the perfect price point, no commercials, with not too shabby amount of content. Of course as a netflix subscriber, would always love to see more content. I really do not mind the delay on some of the content, I will just wait if I know it is coming, no big deal to me.
I just hate when people think any thing online that cost money will fail because they feel everyone online is a bunch of no good pirates. Most pirates are out there because the content is not available to them in their region. Or the price point for the content is ridicules. Or the content that you pay for contains commercials or some DRM that hurts the consumer more than protects the content.
I will not pay for a hulu sub because of that, if I am paying for content, I will not watch commercials. I already do not sub any cable service for the same reason. Why would I do that online? I have no problem paying for content that is commercial, and DRM free. | |
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| Good! I love Netflix, and I would love to see a wider selection of on-demand titles.
I think this is a great move by Netflix and will further distinguish them in the broadband video space.
They have a really good selection of kids videos and their movie/tv selections seem to get better each month.
Because of Netflix, I FINALLY got to watch Caddyshack for the first time in my life...no lie. Of course the only thing keeping me from watching it before was because I was too lazy to go to my car and drive to Blockbuster...lolz
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| | Great The more content Netflix gets makes it a good alternative to cable/satellite. If I weren't married I wold definitely do the Netflix/Hulu combo and dump pay TV. | |
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Madera, CA | Re: Great said by Goldman:The more content Netflix gets makes it a good alternative to cable/satellite. If I weren't married I wold definitely do the Netflix/Hulu combo and dump pay TV. Why would being married prevent you from dumping your cable/sat provider? | |
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| | KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Re: Great Wife would get cranky I think is his point. | |
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Madera, CA | Re: Great said by KrK:Wife would get cranky I think is his point. As long as she can enjoy TV shows or Movies, what the difference? weather it through DVD's, Cable/Sat, Instant Streaming, Blu Ray, VHS (yes it's outdated but still a form of watching film) no matter the technology she can still watch movies or tv shows. | |
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| Very Good News I started Netflix streaming to 2 TV's in my house with a bluray player and the Roku player and canceled my subscriptions to the premium movie channels. I now have over 12,000 titles to pick from plus one new release bluray at a time and I am saving over $15.00 per month. The Roku has even more then just Netflix - Youtube, Amazon VOD, etc. I also love horror movies and most of them are Lionsgate. I am unable to subscribe to Epix because my cable company does not offer it. This will be a real treat to horror/scifi lovers. | |
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| | Cautious spending I hope NF is careful with their expenditures as it's a great model that may go in the toilet if they don't manage it properly. If they fail, the $10 unlimited model may never return. They may be creating long term expenses that is too dependent on growth forecasts. The could be living above their means.
In the meantime, looking forward to more content. | |
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| | | Re: Cautious spending Hmm, after looking at epix list of movies, this doesn't look like a good deal at all...
»www.epixhd.com/all-movies/ | |
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| | Canceld my Dish sub last night We just canceled our Dish sub last night. Streaming content to my Blu-Ray player and Wii has been great.
With Netflix, my OTA antenna, and if Samsung ever releases the Hulu Plus app to their other Blu-Ray players we'll have more than enough content.
Bill will go from $48 to $20... | |
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Madera, CA | Re: Not clear... said by swintec:It still is not clear to me if we (netflix subscribers) would have to pay extra for this Epix catalog of movies. It keeps being compared to HBO in the article and how Netflix would become a rival to premium movie channels. Anyone else know differently? I would hate to see it become a paid add-on. I would like to know too. | |
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New Orleans, LA | Love everything about Netflix They have given me numerous credits whenever I have slight issues with video (which rarely happen)
No Ads
Great and expanding selections
HD access or at least great non-HD access to other
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| So will the price for content increase as well? How long can the streaming portion of the service remain "all you can eat". I suspect they will start limiting the amount of streamed hours per month at some point, and introduce tiers for streaming. I have Netflix and love the streaming, easy to say we watch more streamed content than physical DVDs. Of course I would love to see a broader selection but I like the current price structure better atm. | |
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Madera, CA | Re: So will the price for content increase as well? said by Flippant:How long can the streaming portion of the service remain "all you can eat". I suspect they will start limiting the amount of streamed hours per month at some point, and introduce tiers for streaming. I have Netflix and love the streaming, easy to say we watch more streamed content than physical DVDs. Of course I would love to see a broader selection but I like the current price structure better atm. I think it will stay the same. | |
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| | this bad news imo it's bad enough that netflix delays shipping some movies by 28 days, now they're going to have another segment of movies that will be delayed by 90 days. i think i'm going back to blockbuster, so i can watch new releases within a reasonable amount of time. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: this bad news imo said by chuckie1:it's bad enough that netflix delays shipping some movies by 28 days, now they're going to have another segment of movies that will be delayed by 90 days. i think i'm going back to blockbuster, so i can watch new releases within a reasonable amount of time. Not sure where you ge tthe whole 90 days thing? | |
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Orlando, FL | Watch Netflix most every night-- Farscape forever! I love Netflix also - this seems a good idea to me, I use a Roku box now but don't forget all the new blu-ray players and hdtv are coming out with wireless built in. If they have a pay-4-vu from Epix and keep the price low like Red Box I'll play.
I figure that close to Xmas there will be some good deals on the new built in wifi blu-ray players (not many built in now) and then I'll jump. | |
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kudos:2 | On Demand Payments Netflix needs a on demand payment. I don't watch many movies and TV shows. I don't like subscription either. | |
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Cedar Hill, TX | Re: On Demand Payments said by antdude:Netflix needs a on demand payment. I don't watch many movies and TV shows. I don't like subscription either. You can get everything that Netflix has on iTunes Rental or Amazon On Demand, since you clearly hate the subscription model that everyone else seems to love... | |
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2 edits | Re: On Demand Payments said by antwanp:said by antdude:Netflix needs a on demand payment. I don't watch many movies and TV shows. I don't like subscription either. You can get everything that Netflix has on iTunes Rental or Amazon On Demand, since you clearly hate the subscription model that everyone else seems to love... Well, I only watch one movie per month or even more. That should give you an idea. It is not worth paying monhtly subscription. I don't even have cable and satellite TV services. I do use over the air (OTA).
AoD is OK. I just don't like I have a time limit and don't like streaming. I could BUY the movie, but that's pointless. I like going to RedBox to borrow a DVD for 99 cents, but it is limited. If I don't have time to finish within a day before returning, I just rip it to my HDD to watch later. | |
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Washington, DC | Re: On Demand Payments Not every payment model works for everyone. Amazon's on Demand selection isn't bad from what I remember if that does what you want.  | |
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| Re: On Demand Payments said by chimera:Not every payment model works for everyone. Amazon's on Demand selection isn't bad from what I remember if that does what you want. But the time limit and DRM suck. 
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Cedar Hill, TX | Re: On Demand Payments well, since you wanna do things the on-demand way, you're gonna deal with the time-limits...
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| Re: On Demand Payments said by antwanp:well, since you wanna do things the on-demand way, you're gonna deal with the time-limits... Yeah. I wouldn't mind having late fees as long as prices are reasonable. Redbox charges another buck for each day.
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