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Netflix Tests More Streaming Price Options
by Karl Bode 09:39AM Thursday Jan 02 2014
Recently people noted that Netflix has started testing a number of new pricing points for the company's streaming video packages, including the option to save a buck and pay $7 for SD streams limited to just one device. Others have since noticed that there's a number of other options that Netflix is tinkering with that may or may not show up in different markets, including a $10 option that provides three streams. That appears to fall between the company's existing offers of $8 for two streams and $12 for four streams.

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Sarick
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Confusing subscribers.

All these streams and such will just confuse the customers. Why not Just make 1 stream and 4 streams packages?
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aaronwt
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Re: Confusing subscribers.

said by Sarick:

All these streams and such will just confuse the customers. Why not Just make 1 stream and 4 streams packages?

WHy not one stream, two streams, three streams, and four streams? Hardly confusing.
If a person can understand one stream and four streams, then they should have no issue understanding two streams and three streams as well. Not confusing at all.

Hall
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Re: Confusing subscribers.

Even simpler, allow unlimited streaming (from the same IP address). One big reason they restrict is because people "share" their login info with others. Well, if all of the requests are coming from the same IP, odds are it's the same house and not shared.

That said, I was tempted to check if my account is offering the add'l streaming options. With (3) computers, (2) Kindles, (4) mobile phones, (2) BD players, and (1) Roku, we haven't ran into a problem yet being restricted to (2) streams...

Anon E Muss

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Re: Confusing subscribers.

said by Hall:

Even simpler, allow unlimited streaming (from the same IP address). One big reason they restrict is because people "share" their login info with others. Well, if all of the requests are coming from the same IP, odds are it's the same house and not shared.

Ok so if I go out of town and I'm at the hotel and I want to watch Netflix I can't even though I'm paying for it and I'm using MY account? My son who is at college can't use my account either? Sorry your idea doesn't work. You don't need unlimited streaming at home anyways.

compugeek
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Re: Confusing subscribers.

I think he meant that you still could have the two stream option from outside your IP. So if you are away you can stream but at the same time family at the house can have 4 because it is the same IP. It wouldn't be that hard for them to distinguish one to multiple IP's. I have ran into the to many streams thing multiple times and that would be great if it could tell that.

Geek

watchout

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Why not unlimited from the one IP. They can tell if someone spoofs the IP and charge 7 bucks. Then, for additional IP/Stream, charge a buck fifty or two for another stream. I'm about to cancel my Netflix account to try redbox. The Kids have requested I keep huluplus and as a prime member, I get another outlet for streaming. I hope NF doesn't hose up everything or I'll be getting my movies else ware.

cchhat01
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Re: Confusing subscribers.

Goodluck if you've got an ISP changing out your IP address every 2 days. I know one that changes IP every 6 hours.
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Selenia
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said by Hall:

Even simpler, allow unlimited streaming (from the same IP address). One big reason they restrict is because people "share" their login info with others. Well, if all of the requests are coming from the same IP, odds are it's the same house and not shared.

That said, I was tempted to check if my account is offering the add'l streaming options. With (3) computers, (2) Kindles, (4) mobile phones, (2) BD players, and (1) Roku, we haven't ran into a problem yet being restricted to (2) streams...

But what about mobile devices? 1 can personally use it on a tablet on a friend's WiFi or their own 3/4G connection. That would be from a different IP.
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Corehhi

join:2002-01-28
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I have run into a 2 device limit at my house. I didn't have a problem till maybe 6 months ago. I would go for the 3 stream option if it was offered to me but I don't see it as an option. 4 is over kill.

Sarick
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Apparently years marketing research means nothing and the choice overload is a figment of imagination.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_confusion

Multiple streaming doesn't incorporate all aspects a customers understanding of the package. It neglects multiple IP restrictions, blackout areas, HD vs SD, the available customer bandwidth and ISP data caps.

You might be smart enough to know these details and ascertain the fines details about the packages but grandma might not. She might not realize she has a 10BG monthly data cap or that her 512Kbps DSL connection can't handle more then one SD stream. She might not even realize doesn't need more than one stream.

BTW: Netflix will run at 512kps with occasional hiccups on a low latency connection. It just looks lower quality and there is a constant stream. A higher bandwidth connection would create a surplus data buffer when it got slightly empty.

I'm all for choice but please KEEP IT SIMPLE. One SD stream for the low end and multiple for the higher tier. If someone needs needs more then two streams then there should extra cost for multiple local streams.

Throwing in all these SD only packages etc. Just confuse less knowledgeable customers. It's not just the multiple stream options that are at stake its the stream resolutions. Add to many options and the subscription will become complicated no matter how easy each are to understand if packaged separately.

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davidhoffman
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Re: Confusing subscribers.

Why restrict the single stream option to SD? If the content is in HD then it should be able to be accessed in HD. If the connection is low grade then let the subscriber have the option to select a lower resolution. Similar to selecting resolutions in YouTube.

As for grandma getting overage charges, she could get that from just surfing the web with embedded auto start videos, depending on the extent of the rent seeking for per GB usage from her ISP. Grandma has to deal with many other complicated technologies in her life. I am sure most grandmas cannot describe the differences in intricacies between the anti-lock braking system they had on their old 2003 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD crew cab and their brand new 2013 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD crew cab. All they knows is that it stops in a nice straight line on a wavy surfaced wet road when they push the brake pedal all the way down really fast.
davidhoffman
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There will be no potential or existing customers of Netflix who will be confused by a linear progression of streams and the associated pricing. It is somewhat similar to adding more phones to a family mobile cellular telephone contract with basic telephones. You have a base price for the account and then a constant add-on fee for each additional basic telephone you wish to add.
ke4pym
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Charlotte, NC

Price changes

You know what I'd like to see? The "HD Premium" +$1 for BluRay to go away. HD could command a premium 6 years ago. It's main stream now. Get a clue, Netflix.

Anon E Muss

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Re: Price changes

what are you talking about? Netflix doesn't charge extra for HD streaming. As far as disc there is redbox. You can get blu-rays for $1.50, Disc are becoming a very minor part of Netflix's business and in 2 or 3 years they won't even be dealing with discs anymore.
biochemistry

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Re: Price changes

2 or 3 years? Their disc business is still huge and the instant movies are always way out of date.
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They still make a very large portion of their profit from discs. They will be around for several years yet.
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jmn1207
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I'd like to see this "premium" go away with my TV service as well. How long are they going to drag this out? I'd rent tons of movies via On Demand or through my Roku device apps if the prices for the HD content were at the same rate as the SD option.

It may seem silly, but to me an HD movie at $5.99 or more for a 24-hour rental pushes it above my accepted value level, as I often compare this price to what I was paying when using Blockbuster or Red Box.

Vudu or M-Go need to provide customers with package deals for significant discounts. I want to see multiple movie deals per month where the cost per each movie is significantly reduced with a higher number of movies included. I'd be willing to pay a monthly fee for the option to be able to watch 4 free movies. These would not even have to carry over to the next month if not used. Just a use-it-or-lose-it feature that would bring the price per movie a bit lower. I think this type of business model would have a lot more potential to succeed.

As it is now, I only rent a movie if it is a new, top tier quality show that I missed at the theater. With a subscription, it would be much more likely that I would use up these "vouchers" to watch older movies or something that I would otherwise have just skipped completely.

aaronwt
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Re: Price changes

said by jmn1207:

I'd like to see this "premium" go away with my TV service as well. How long are they going to drag this out? I'd rent tons of movies via On Demand or through my Roku device apps if the prices for the HD content were at the same rate as the SD option.

It may seem silly, but to me an HD movie at $5.99 or more for a 24-hour rental pushes it above my accepted value level, as I often compare this price to what I was paying when using Blockbuster or Red Box.

Vudu or M-Go need to provide customers with package deals for significant discounts. I want to see multiple movie deals per month where the cost per each movie is significantly reduced with a higher number of movies included. I'd be willing to pay a monthly fee for the option to be able to watch 4 free movies. These would not even have to carry over to the next month if not used. Just a use-it-or-lose-it feature that would bring the price per movie a bit lower. I think this type of business model would have a lot more potential to succeed.

As it is now, I only rent a movie if it is a new, top tier quality show that I missed at the theater. With a subscription, it would be much more likely that I would use up these "vouchers" to watch older movies or something that I would otherwise have just skipped completely.

The content providers are the only ones that can allow this. Vudu, Netflix, etc can only do this with the blessing of the content providers. And the content provides currently don't allow it. And probably won't anytime soon.

jmn1207
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Re: Price changes

Yes, but it sure would be nice to have an option to pay something like $20 for 4 HD movie rentals over 30 days, or 10 rentals for $40, etc. I know that I would be watching a lot more movies with better pricing options. As a promotion, M-Go offered 2 free HD movie rentals just for signing up, and that is all I have used with this service, so they must have some flexibility with the pricing schemes.

At the current prices, it is just a bit too high for me. With some rare exceptions, I can usually wait until it comes out on a premium movie channel that I already pay for with my bundled TV service package. I have stopped going to the theater for several years now, and I rely on these services, along with cable TV, to watch any movies now.
gene32

join:2004-05-03
Reynoldsburg, OH

Get more content!

The reason I never bothered with Netflix or Amazon Prime is because their content selection sorta blows. Wake me up when somebody offers streaming of every movie/TV show ever created. For new TV shows, I can live with waiting a week before they're available. I'd pay $20/mo for this type of service. Until that happens, I'll find other means of watching whatever I want on whatever device I want and keep my money.

aaronwt
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Re: Get more content!

said by gene32:

The reason I never bothered with Netflix or Amazon Prime is because their content selection sorta blows. Wake me up when somebody offers streaming of every movie/TV show ever created. For new TV shows, I can live with waiting a week before they're available. I'd pay $20/mo for this type of service. Until that happens, I'll find other means of watching whatever I want on whatever device I want and keep my money.

That will never happen. The content providers won't allow it because they would be leaving a ton of money on the table it they ever offered something like that for so cheap.

Not to mention that you could never get them to all agree to offer their entire library up for streaming to every service. Even if the monthly cost were several times that, all the content providers not agree to it.

Gilitar

join:2012-02-01
Mobile, AL

Two streams is not enough for the average family...

and I'm not paying any more than what I pay for Netflix already. $8 a month for old programming is quiet enough. Keep tinkering with things Netflix and you will find yourself with subscriber losses.

BS_content

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Holywood is fu..ked, knows but hides it...

Strictly IMHO.

It looks like bullsh.t content finally catches up with bullsh.t content creators and distributors leaches... Has anyone even thought about the fact that people are getting tired from the same "superman" bs story repeated over and over again? Unless these people are complete brainless biorobots programmed to mindless consumption of any garbage that is thrown at them...
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Don't cross the streams!

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Madtown
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Sharing with my GF

I share my log in info with my Girlfriend and I pay the $7.99 per month, she's the only other person I share it with. If I were to share it with a 3rd person I would upgrade to the 4 screens option which is $11.99 per month. The reason Netflix limit the amount of screens you can watch it on, is because they know people like to share their log in info with others, so the more people you share it with, the more money you pay. Luckily Netflix gives you the option to share your log ins with other people, I don't know if Hulu Plus, Amazon Prime or any other let you do that.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

Re: Sharing with my GF

That's why they need to RESTRICT access to the account's network/IP. I have 1 smart TV and 4 Rokus, xbox 1, PS3, Xbox 360. 2 Galaxy tab's, a hand full of android phones, 1 Iphone 5, Sony Vita (sic) and god knows what else. Not ALL will be online at the same time but I allow my 2 college kids to access my Hulu plus, Netflix and amazon prime. They also have access to my Playon/play later account so they can stream movies off my home media server. Now, over the holidays when most of the kids were at my house, if 3 rokus were streaming Neflix, it shouldn't be an issue. Now, if one was away at school then at should eat up my nr 2 spot, but I should still be able to stream 2 or 3 from home. Netflix needs to get it's crap in one sock because I have no issues with dumping them for red box or someone else. This nickel/dime crap is why I've dropped all my pay services from cable.
Madtown
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If they restrict it to one IP address that will cause problems.
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Sounds like a deal as Netflix on Comcast is rarely in HD anyway

At least in my area on Comcast I have only seen Netflix stream fast enough for HD quality once or twice in the last year.
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Re: Sounds like a deal as Netflix on Comcast is rarely in HD anyway

said by b10010011:

At least in my area on Comcast I have only seen Netflix stream fast enough for HD quality once or twice in the last year.

Yeah, and even then, it's highly compressed "HD."

As others have mentioned already, HD should be the accepted norm and not something that one pays extra to have.
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Goliath2k
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Only for new customers?

A few days ago I tried to get the 1 Stream SD option and I didn't see the option -- so I called customer support and found out that it was only rolling out in limited regions, and even if you're in one of those regions it's only for new customers (or customers who had cancelled their Netflix accounts for over a year).

I briefly thought about doing the whole "threaten to cancel my account" dance to see if I could get them to lower their price, but with all the growth Netflix has been having lately, they'd probably welcome the cancellation, that way they can serve their existing customer base better. (sort of like when Amazon had to temporarily turn off new subscriptions to Amazon Prime late last year)

antdude
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How about non-subscription based?

For those who don't watch much. I like Amazon's VoD, iTunes, etc.

shortyd999

join:2008-10-21
Birmingham, AL

???

I'm not sure I understand. Right now I have two other people using my account (so 3 including myself). I've haven't had an issue where I would need more "streams". I check my plan and I'm on the 2 streams for $8. If I went to 4 streams for $12, what exactly would this allow me to do that I can't do now?
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Re: ???

said by shortyd999:

If I went to 4 streams for $12, what exactly would this allow me to do that I can't do now?

It would allow you to have 4 streams running simultaneously, where now you can only have 2.

I have 3 smart tvs and 3 iPods on my 2 stream account, but only 2 of them can be used at any one time.

shortyd999

join:2008-10-21
Birmingham, AL

Re: ???

Oh I see. Well 2 enough for me then.

whiteshp

join:2002-03-05
Xenia, OH

1st run movies on an entrenched platform!

Honestly I think the real goldmine is 1st run movies for a fee. TVs are much nicer than before and Netflix is in many homes now with their low cost streaming which gets them in the door. Offering 1st run movies (6-24hr rental per-movie fee) would be a cash cow for them though bad for some theaters.
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Re: 1st run movies on an entrenched platform!

It might be, but I hope they never do. It'll be the beginning of the nickel and diming that doesn't yet exist in Netflix. I steered away from Amazon precisely because they had pay per view content.

What makes Netflix great is it's affordable. It works great. Smart TV's have the hardware and software to run it. And you can watch what you want, when you want, with no commercials.
mahicks

join:2001-06-20
Tallahassee, FL

I would pay $20 a month for 2 HD streams on Comcast that actually stream HD!

Really now. Thats a tier I wish they would offer. Since NF and Comcast will not go to bed together, just let me pay for my CDN access so I can actually use the product i pay for.