  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs: | That is ridiculous. We stream NEtflix to the Xbox 360 almost nightly, and only get one DVD a month. Someone has their head up their ass.... | |
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| Re: That is ridiculous. said by ptrowski :We stream NEtflix to the Xbox 360 almost nightly, and only get one DVD a month. Someone has their head up their ass.... we dont even bother with the dvd... XBOX is great though huh... -- This is not the greatest post in the world, no, this is just a tribute!
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| said by ptrowski :We stream NEtflix to the Xbox 360 almost nightly, and only get one DVD a month. Someone has their head up their ass.... So what about people with only 768 kbitps DSL because their copper is crap? What about cable companies who still have 3 mbitps as the highest speed, or worse »Re: What's the worst broadband package out there? ? What about overloaded nodes that goto 3G speeds during peak usage? | |
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join:2005-05-12 Aubrey, TX | Re: That is ridiculous. Then those people won't use the streaming service. Simple. For everyone else who has a decent connection.... | |
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| Re: That is ridiculous. LOL!
Yeah, love the streams on the 360...when there are titles available "to" stream, that I haven't seen yet.
And for those folks just getting onboard, you can find a decent LG Bluray player with Netflix feature...just need a home LAN...(yes, you SHOULD have broadband and not dialiup/DSL for any streaming). -- Splat | |
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  Phil Rojo Sol Premium join:2001-06-11 Camarillo, CA | No interest in streaming my ass...
If Netflix offered their entire movie collection via stream I'd have zero need to get the physical disk. The fact is they can't and that's why the US in not an option for such a service. | |
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| Re: No interest in streaming my ass... My guess is that Netflix isn't licensed to only distribute content without physical media. And as Karl Bode mentioned, the content owners are resisting that slippery slope every chance they get.
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| That would have hit the nail on the head, over the last few months, even PC instant view has improved to the point of not one glitch. There must be some hidden reason for off shoring streaming, of course there might be some screaming from ISP's who like to curb bandwidth usage, aside the slippery Hollywood crews.
Netflix appears to have become rather as formidable 'picture' these days. | |
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 |   Kompressor Premium join:2002-02-12 Huntington Beach, CA | Most movies I see is a one time thing so streaming is fine, but movies I really like, I get the DVD or Blu-Ray disc and copy it so I can watch it any time. I also sometimes like the DVD extras you don't get in a stream. | |
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| I have to agree, who in their right mind would think that Americans wouldn't rather sit and just click to watch a movie, and not have to wait for it to come in the mail and go back and forth to the mailbox. Americans revel in laziness, this seems like an idea perfect for Americans. I think there would be a large market for it, if all of the movies were available as many still can't tell the difference between DVD and Blu-ray or stereo and surround sound, they would love the convenience.
I use the service several times a month and I love it, that said the service IMHO is not ready to replace physical media completely for someone like me, I wouldn't want a streaming only service, even if the entire catalog was available because, they still don't have surround sound and their HD is HD lite and doesn't even begin to match the sound and picture of blu-ray. The lack of surround sound is the real killer for me. | |
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 |   sapo I eat meat Premium join:2002-09-16 Sacramento, CA | Yeah, if Netflix streamed the whole collection in HD that would be awesome. That would basically be all I use then. -- DO DO | |
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| Good service. I have this on my XBOX and killed cable after getting this. I dont use the mail service but between my bedroom TV hooked up to the PC and my living room hooked up to XBOX at the 10/month this is better then anything. Quality is top notch as well. 15mbit Road Runner is more then enough. | |
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 |   chlen Ethically Challenged Premium join:2001-01-16 Albany, NY | Re: Come on Netflix.. The selection is pretty impressive actually for the price and they continue to boost and rotate it almost weekly. | |
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| Re: Come on Netflix.. While I don't have a problem finding a good movie (most often a foreign film) via Netflix's streaming service, the stream library is not even close to what's offered in their full physical rental library. The problem is Netflix has no choice in the matter and offers only what they can via their streaming service. | |
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| Re: Come on Netflix.. I didn't know they did the rotation deal until my daughter wanted to watch one of her favorite movies again, Black Beauty. It was no longer available to stream. Just a guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix purchased the right to stream a movie for x number of views for y number of months which ever comes first. Why else stream for only a limited time? | |
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| said by swintec :said by chlen :The selection is pretty impressive actually for the price and they continue to boost and rotate it almost weekly. Oh don't get me wrong, it is a decent selection..however I like to envision that when a title is available, it doesnt get removed after so many weeks like many do. i can't tell you how many times I have wanted to go back and watch a movie I watched several weeks before and it is no longer there. I had high hopes that when a movie was added to streaming, it was there "for good". That will not happen. VOD is in flux all the time. If someone else has the rights to a tilte, like HBO or broadcast for example, it might disappear from VOD for a while. During the on e or two months they have rights to show the content. | |
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join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | ISP pressure? I would bet that they are getting pressure from not only Hollywood but the ISPs. The ISPs are doing everything possible to prevent them from becoming just a dumb pipe (which is what they need to be). | |
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 |   MSauk MSauk Premium join:2002-01-17 Sandy, UT | Re: ISP pressure? well that sucks, I would have signed up for something like that -- 801 Images | |
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| Both content providers and the owners of said content want to retain as much control as possible in order to make the most money possible. They certainly don't want me watching the latest movie via Netflix when they offer the same thing via Video On Demand or similar service at quadruple the cost. | |
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| Re: ISP pressure? there is a reason the content owners are nicknamed the MAFIAA. they want to control everything from production to purchase much like the mob did with lots of booze during a colorful point in history. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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  Tomek Premium join:2002-01-30 Brooklyn, NY | I think it it has to do with RIAA/MPAA There is a FREE service in Europe available for PS3 owners that allows unlimited streaming of music videos. It is not available in US unless u do UK proxy. The name was, I think, VidZone. -- Semper Fi | |
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| How much does it cost? Does Netflix currently ship DVDs internationally? If they don't, the streaming only model for international customers makes sense to allow them to increase subscriber count with new markets but not having to worry about international mailings, multi-region DVDs, etc.
I would be VERY surprised if a streaming-only subscrition was cheaper then the $9 1-DVD membership level they have now. Why bother for US subscribers charging the same price and getting less. | |
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| Simple. Someone needs to point out to the environmentalist whackos in Hollywood that streaming has a far lower impact on our fragile planet, and that DVD sales are poisoning nature (cardboard wrappers, toxic chemicals probably released during the manufacturing process, and don't forget evil carbon-emitting mail trucks all over the place). | |
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join:2002-01-22 00000 clubs: | Re: Simple. This could be debatable. After all, who thought that using a dishwasher uses let resources than washing by hand? not me, but that seems to be the case. | |
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  IPPlanMan Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC | Caps are in the way anyway Aside from the speed issue (save for Fios), even Comcast's 250GB cap isn't high enough for regular HD content streaming when added to other internet usage at the premises....
This is pathetic on so many levels.... | |
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join:2006-08-23 Tomball, TX
1 edit | Is this more commentary than direction? This is more a commentary on how much worse the US "last mile" internet is versus other countries that have invested more on their "last mile" networks than it is about Netflix providing a streaming only service in the US.
If this doesn't exemplify that we need net neutrality laws and more investment in the "last mile" of US networks, I don't know what else would.
Yes I think there also might be pressure from the RIAA/MPAA but then again they are too stupid to see that allowing services like this may invent new revenue streams for them. | |
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| Re: Is this more commentary than direction? Comcast has no intention of raising the cap because they don't want you to cut the Cable cord for Internet only service from them.
They want to make you watch HD content from a cable feed, not from an internet one.
Not fooling me Comcast... not fooling me...  -- "We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it." Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army | |
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  AnClar Premium join:2003-07-31 Belton, TX
| Absolutely Ridiculous! I've been streaming Netflix content to my Roku boxes for over a year now and if Netflix offered it's entire catalog for streaming instead of the crappy subset of content that they currently offer, I'd never order a DVD again. As it is, I probably use streaming 2 to one over ordering DVDs. As others have said, both the movie industry and Netflix need to pull their heads out of their collective asses, lest the movie industry go the way of the music industry...that is, rapidly heading towards extinction! -- When in danger or in doubt run in circles, scream and shout! | |
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  IPPlanMan Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC
| The problem You've got Netflix with the desire to stream stuff....
Versus...
- The movie industry doesn't want to let go of the physical disk... - Cable companies (Comcast) don't want to provide more than "Grandma style internet" while preserving OnDemand/Premium services. So they're doing what they can to keep you from "cutting the cord". -- "We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it." Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army | |
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| Why don't they? Well first I already thought they had this service.
Second why don't they just offer it. Don't spend a dime on advertising just add it as another option when you sign up for the service? Worst case they gain a few customers that wouldn't have otherwise signed up. -- PRescott7-2097 | |
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  Varlik Without Honor You Will Never Be Free Premium join:2002-01-06 Anderson, SC | Will Netflix Be The Next AOL? I myself can't help but See similarities or at least comparatives between their situation and stances. | |
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| Re: Will Netflix Be The Next AOL? Finally.. i feel some balance D:
Hulu doesn't let Any1 outside the states watch their vids >.>
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| Re: Will Netflix Be The Next AOL? said by Raficoo :Finally.. i feel some balance D: Hulu doesn't let Any1 outside the states watch their vids >.> let's see how you guys like it when your not allowed to watch vids because of the Country you're in Ownership rights are different around the world. Just because someone has rights to show specific content in one country, like the US, doesn't mean they have the rights to show them in another. Those rights have to be negotiated for each country/area. That is not going to change anytime soon. If ever. | |
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1 edit | Re: Will Netflix Be The Next AOL? said by aaronwt :said by Raficoo :Finally.. i feel some balance D: Hulu doesn't let Any1 outside the states watch their vids >.> let's see how you guys like it when your not allowed to watch vids because of the Country you're in Ownership rights are different around the world. Just because someone has rights to show specific content in one country, like the US, doesn't mean they have the rights to show them in another. Those rights have to be negotiated for each country/area. That is not going to change anytime soon. If ever. still doesn't make sense if you ask me.. o well .. only way i can think of bypassing the check is having an actual VPN account(since HotShield doesn't work anymore >.>).. and hey.. Torrents and HTTP still there lol
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| said by Raficoo :Finally.. i feel some balance D: Hulu doesn't let Any1 outside the states watch their vids >.> let's see how you guys like it when your not allowed to watch vids because of the Country you're in Can't tell where you're from. But I can tell you that Us folks in the states run into this as well when trying to watch stuff from the UK most notably the BBC's stuff. -- "Sir SIR! We don't use DHCP servers. We only use IBM & Microsoft servers." From there my call to tech support went steadily downhill.
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| Love my Netflix/Roku streaming Nice to see so many Roku users on here. 
I've been using my Roku box for a little over a month now and it has quickly become part of our daily entertainment lives. My older son quickly mastered the simple Roku remote. (Not surprising considering that he figured out on his own how to record a show using our cable DVR remote!) Our younger son regularly asks to watch Roku instead of cable TV. ("Want Bobby He Can Build It Roku" = Put one of the Bob The Builder videos on from Roku.) As for me, I've discovered quite a few shows that I never would have watched otherwise that I love (e.g. "The IT Crowd", "Tripping the Rift").
The only problem we've encountered has been connection issues and I'm sure that's my router. I'm exploring ways of improving my router's reception. -- -Jason Levine Support a children's charity. Buy a calendar and/or a photo book. Shooting For A Cause | |
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