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Netflix Viewing on Game Consoles Actually Declining
A new study by research firm GfK indicates that while game consoles are used by 43% of Netflix viewers to watch Netflix content, that number is actually declining despite the launch of broadband video centric consoles like the Xbox One and Sony Playstation 4. Increasing is viewing on Roku-like stand alone devices (28%, up from 6% three years ago) and Internet-connected televisions (28%, up from 13% three years ago). A recent study by Parks and Associates stated that both Nintendo Wii and Microsoft Xbox (360, One) consoles are in 35% of U.S. broadband households, while the Sony PlayStation (PS3, PS4) brand is in 27% of households.
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bigballer
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Little surprising

Now that microsoft actually lets you use netflix.... you know for free...

But then it's much easier to use chromecast to stream netflix than go through the hurdles of turning on the xbox, using the joystick and the A key to search a movie, etc. etc.
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Re: Little surprising

Or to press the Netflix button on a smart TV remote control.
existenz
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Used to use Xbox and PS3 for Netflix but now use Chromecast.

Camelot One
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I don't use my XBox much, but every time I turn it on, I have to wait 15 minutes while it downloads and installs an update before it will let me do anything. If all I wanted to do was watch a movie, that would piss me off.
bigballer
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Re: Little surprising

It's just easier to use chromecast.

Oh and netflix is 1080P on chromecast.... not on xbox.

v6movement
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Re: Little surprising

said by bigballer:

It's just easier to use chromecast.

That might make sense if Chromecast was a media streamer in itself but it isn't. It has that very pesky issue of needing to buy something to stream to it, making it fairly expensive to use.
Chuck_IV
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Too clunky...

I've never been a fan of using apps on my XBox or PS3. They are both a bit clunky and slow at doing Netflix(or any app for that matter. XBox... start up, watch XBox logo, wait..., wait..., wait..., logging in, wait..., wait..., wait..., navigate to my apps, then start Netflix. Same goes for PS3 but with the PS3, add in a potential system update, which always seem to be needed when I log in.

I'd rather jump right on with my Roku, as it takes seconds to get to Netflix, since it is always on. We also use Netflix on our Samsung TV more, since it has a hot button for Netflix.
Albert71292
join:2004-10-31
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Re: Too clunky...

I use the Roku also. Sometimes the desktop if I'm not at the TV.

bionicRod
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The XBox One is a little better, especially if you're otherwise occupied.

"XBox on"
"XBox to to Netflix"

It's the only Kinect feature I consistently use on the One. Not worth the price of admission alone by any means but it's neat nonetheless.

buzz_4_20
join:2003-09-20
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Well...

Why use a game console that chews up the watts when you most likely have a TV that does a better job.

tito79
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Re: Well...

Chromecast is kicking but thats why
existenz
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existenz

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Re: Well...

Switched to Chromecast as well. Is on all TVs/monitors and get them as gifts.

newview
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If I JUST want to watch Netflix ...

Xbox One - $399.00
PS4 - $399.00
Chromecast - $35.00

Looks like a no-brainer to me.

davidc502
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FireTV

FireTV is now on sale for less than 90 dollars... It's a great box, quad core etc, with HDMI out. It integrates into many different sites, and you can install XBMC (CODI).

A real competitor to roku.
elefante72
join:2010-12-03
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Re: FireTV

I wouldn't say Fire is a competitor to Roku because Amazon specifically hobbles it to their ecosystem (there are workarounds), but it is a competitor for DIY for media centers and the like as the lower spec Roku and especially Chrome have barely functional processors for doing anything interesting. Even the Roku 3 is not all that interesting outside of it's application.

If Amazon were smart, they would make a homebrew version and let the developer market go wild. But alas they are more interested in you consuming their media.

With that said it is a capable device and can do many different things which thrive on low power (NAS, media serving, decoding, P2P, etc)--that is if you strip the Amazon part out or sideload. I'm not sure if it has enough juice to transcode, so YMMV. This latest iteration doesn't really make much sense like their phone...Sure some will buy but it will be small in comparison to CC, ATV, or Roku.

Camelot One
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Re: FireTV

I agree. FireTV is an excellent box for DIYers, and makes for a fantastic XMBC box. But getting it setup for that takes a bit more work than the general public is willing to put forth. Roku won't give you the better user experience, but it is straight up plug and go.

I used to have an HTPC in the living room, connected to an Onkyo receiver and 5.1 surround. But I've since moved to just a FireTV mounted to the back of the TV, with a sound bar below. (and wireless sub hidden under a table) Makes for the perfect living room setup, and the lack of exposed gear makes the wife happy.
Hanko
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I have a couple of AppleTV's and a Roku box. They each work for streaming but if I want to watch a file that I have shared on my network without starting up the PC or the MAC I use a WD TV Live+ box. It does all that the Roku does and it allows me to browse the network for the shares and play almost any type of file I have shared. Like the FireTV it is about $99 and does more.

I like it a lot better than the Apple TV or the Roku. The Roku almost never gets turned on now days.

Camelot One
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Re: FireTV

said by Hanko:

Like the FireTV it is about $99 and does more.

The WD box is a decent player, but the UI flat out sucks. And the last time I messed with one, there wasn't anything you could do about it. Since it runs on Andoird, the FireTV is really simple to sideload other options like XBMC, and you end up with a better UI and faster hardware. I think the WD box would be priced correctly at about $50, not the $100 they are asking.

simlesa
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Computer

Am I the only one that watches Netflix on a PC?

Corehhi
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Re: Computer

said by simlesa:

Am I the only one that watches Netflix on a PC?

I do but the kids use their Nook's.

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No, I built my own media center out of PC. My main reason to do this was because none of the devices and smart TV's I know if allow you to add international apps, such as BBC America. Furthermore, Amazon Prime isn't supported on Apple TV.

I use a SmartDNS (5 bucks a month) which allows me to watch BBC iPlayer, CBC in Canada (hockey, olympics, other sports), a variety of other "On Demands" in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc... I also watch TV from The Netherlands.

I basically built my own website with links to all of this content (including all the well known American content), and have a mouse and wireless keyboard on the coffee table. XBMC is available for ease of use (grab remote, press green button) and the playing of all the DVD's I have ripped on my media server a few rooms over.

My total monthly "television" bill is about $25. I pay for Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the SmartDNS. No cable or other subcription television, and I am more entertained then I ever was.

Corehhi
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Re: Computer

said by maartena:

I basically built my own website with links to all of this content (including all the well known American content), and have a mouse and wireless keyboard on the coffee table. XBMC is available for ease of use (grab remote, press green button) and the playing of all the DVD's I have ripped on my media server a few rooms over.

You've checked out all the addons available for XBMC right??? I run a cheap laptop as a media center with XBMC on it. Very useful.

»superrepo.org/

maartena
Elmo
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Doesn't surprise me.

The Roku and Apple TV boxes are extremely user friendly, and VERY small, you can hide them in your living room a lot better then a clunky game console. Whats more, someone that wants to get into the live streaming market but isn't wanting to spend the money on a game console, the $99 that both the Roku and Apple TV costs is a welcome price tag, compared to the $199 price tag of the cheapest console.

Better yet, new TV's have Netflix built in, so it doesn't come at any surprise that game consoles are down, and stand-alone devices and smart TV's are up.

Its simply a move of technology. Game consoles are out, smart TV's are in.

cableties
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Re: Doesn't surprise me.

So true: AppleTV and Roku are quiet, unobtrusive. And quick to start up.
JoeSchmoe007
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Re: Doesn't surprise me.

If I am not mistaken, Roku is never really off unless you unplug it from the power.

cableties
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Don't forget...

..that MS didn't allow Netflix UNLESS you had a Gold account until this year.
And that MS collects its own info on what apps you installed and use. Plus you have to navigate several screens to launch that app, download update if needed and go through their own proxy.

I have several choices: xbox, LG TV, AppleTV, PS3, iPad/iphone, and computer.

I found Netflix to be easier to launch, with best viewing on the AppleTV. Menu navigation seems better on the PS3 than on the Xbox.

(I never bought the console for Netflix, but having it is nice to check if there is an issue...)

Question: this new study... I don't think one buys a console to watch streaming. Some families let their kids play games while the parents watch streaming on other appliance (Roku, AppleTV, HDTV app, Chromecast...)
I recall a big groan from many players when XBone announcement had sports TV and such.
Did you buy a console as the All in One entertainment center? Which one? Why?
(no need to answer, just wondering how they got their data. My Wii is in a box.. collecting lint...man, the batteries are leaking!)
bigballer
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Re: Don't forget...

and netflix on xbox is only 720p.....

MemphisPCGuy
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When the 360 came out Roku kinda sucked and my Sony TV was dumb. Netflix Hulu and Amazon + the ability to use it as an Extender was awesome. And you could party up on the 360 and watch a Netflix movie "together" which was a blast when you included drinking games.

Now, my Sony TV is smart, my Roku still kinda sucks and the Xbox One (with Original 360 Media remote) is still my goto choice, although I do occasionally use my TV interface instead.

basically, My Xbox is on all the time ... may as well use it

I don't do Chrome anything...

Gamertag: Sydeburnz

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Don't you still need to have your tablet in order to have it work to watch things like netflix and such?
marctronixx
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ooh that's nothing...

I watch Netflix on my Sony bdp-s7200. I have had this particular model since its launch earlier this year and I've yet to put a disc in it.

tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
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Oh cry me a river..



Who the heck watches ANY streaming service on these 400.00 boxes anyway? With a laptop or PC, plex or playon/playlater (purchase), and/or roku's, you can not only watch better tv but play angry birds..
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In the beginning

Five years ago I was using either my Wii or PS3 to watch Netflix. Now I use a Roku stick because it is always on and I can access it more easily with their remote and watch a host of other channels as well.

MemphisPCGuy
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43% on Consoles

Well now we know why Microsoft thought everyone wanted TV built into their consoles, 43% of Netflix users on previous gen consoles is a lot of people, and consoles.
Kearnstd
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Re: 43% on Consoles

the funny thing is if MS had its head in the right place across computers, consoles and mobile devices... They could have absolutely murdered Apple in the world of combined ecosystems when it comes to entertainment.
jjeffeory
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Really?

I have a bunch of devices connected to my TV that have the Netflix app, including the television and a PC. My device of choice is the PS4. Much better experience than the TV app; faster everything. Looks better than the 360 and WiiU too. So, whatever...

David
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Nintendo Wii guy here.

I have both of mine Homebrewed (or jailbroken if the term is correct). The Wii is a fantastic little box for looking at content. It's so easy to homebrew a Wii and run WiiMC on it, anyone can do it with just a small/minimal amount of techsavvy.

KrK
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Now that I have Chromecast.....

It's just too easy to use the phone and the Chromecast for Netflix. No longer need my Blu-Ray player or Xbox or PC etc etc

Phone + Chromcast + Netflix = done
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Other devices finally caught up

it is that simple, When Netflix was first pushing into the living room the games console was the best avenue of entry because of the large installed base and the fact they are acceptable for living room use these days.

It helped that PS3 was for a long time also one of the best Blu-Ray players until the other vendors got up to speed.

But now Smart TVs are more and more common and smaller devices with dedicated UIs with media playback in mind are common.

But 43% is still a lot of people.


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