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| Won't be a market for it Just like 3D never took off. No one is going to dump a working HDTV for 4K. It will be several years before 4K makes any kind of dent in the marketplace, especially given the lack of apparent visual improvement over 1080P in sets smaller than 50 or 60 inches. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Won't be a market for it There will be a market for it, its just about reducing the barriers and costs of entry. I have a 55'' 3D TV and I would be more than happy to get an even bigger 4k 3D TV at the right price point. | |
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| Re: Won't be a market for it You would need the majority to do it to get a decent price point and it isn't going to happen. Consumers just got their HDTVs and the hardware lasts too long. Like other appliances, TVs aren't replaced until they break.
For many years 4K will be a niche that no one cares about just like 3D is. In 2023, perhaps, 2017, no way. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: Won't be a market for it said by skeechan:You would need the majority to do it to get a decent price point and it isn't going to happen. Consumers just got their HDTVs and the hardware lasts too long. Like other appliances, TVs aren't replaced until they break.
For many years 4K will be a niche that no one cares about just like 3D is. In 2023, perhaps, 2017, no way.
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And the niche initially will be Sports Bars when live sports can be put in 4K. They can write off the hardware and monthly costs as business expenses.
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| Re: Won't be a market for it As the previous poster stated, the niche will be big sets, but not everyone has room for a 90" set unless they have a room dedicated to it. In most family rooms 65" is about as big as ya will want and there isn't a big difference between 1080P and 4K at 65" and 14ft...not big enough to justify dropping $3K to replace an otherwise working HDTV. | |
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| Re: Won't be a market for it I think you are right in that having just purchased a big HDTV will be the main factor limiting 4k uptake but I personally know more than one person that would get it simply because it it the latest 'thing' and they will HAVE TO have it. True they don't make a market by themselves but it is a common marketing phenomenon. If (and it's a big if) the stores offer credit for 'trade ins' if your old HDTV I could see it making a big difference... Craigslist is also a more and more popular outlet as people look to get rid of useful stuff. I think this will be a good test of the 'American Consumer Machine'. | |
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But by all means... give up.
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Oklahoma City, OK | Re: Won't be a market for it The major reason why 3D didn't catch on very well is the limited viewing angles, quality while in the home and lack of content.
The 4K tv's are slated to have the ability to do 3D without glasses and even before then much of the content already available is able to be refreshed for the higher resolutions. If Netflix is jumping on the wagon and getting the content ready it won't be long before people start using it.
It's more of a build it and they will come rather than a wait and see game. | |
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kudos:4 | said by skeechan:For many years 4K will be a niche that no one cares about just like 3D is. In 2023, perhaps, 2017, no way.
rofl. what is there out there in 1080P? a handful of titles and only PPV and overcompressed. *yawn*
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El Paso, TX | said by skeechan:Just like 3D never took off. No one is going to dump a working HDTV for 4K. It will be several years before 4K makes any kind of dent in the marketplace, especially given the lack of apparent visual improvement over 1080P in sets smaller than 50 or 60 inches.
Even if there isn't a market for it, it will be used.
The reason is simple:
Manufacturers will be able to do 4k TV's at the same price 1080p sets go for today in a very short time.
So it will get used simply because they can. | |
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| Re: Won't be a market for it They won't be able to do it until there is demand for it. There won't be demand for it because you need churn in the hardware. 4K will not be cheaper than 1080P just like 1080P still isn't cheaper than the 720P sets.
Eventually 4K will be popular but not for a very long time. | |
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| Re: Won't be a market for it said by skeechan:They won't be able to do it until there is demand for it. There won't be demand for it because you need churn in the hardware. 4K will not be cheaper than 1080P just like 1080P still isn't cheaper than the 720P sets.
Eventually 4K will be popular but not for a very long time.
You say 3D never took off yet many entries level TV's now come with it. If there is no demand, why are they so cheap? My father bought a 55'' 3D LG TV a week ago at 799, and that the normal price.
As far as no one replacing it if it isn’t broken, that maybe true for you, but I replaced my 46'' TV with a 55'' TV and the 46'' TV wasn’t broken.
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| Re: Won't be a market for it 3D isn't the driver of HDTV demand. People buy that LG set because it is 55 inches for 800 bucks. If 3D was the demand driver you would see WAY more 3D content. 3D was all hype and ooh and ahh, but it is a failure in the marketplace. The market simply doesn't care about 3D.
HDTVs are cheap because they are produced in very high volume and it took nearly 20 years of HDTV sales to get to this place.
There are always exceptions. There will be 3 people who buy 4K now just as you are an exception that replaces a working TV. But the market in general doesn't replace near new working appliances and to get 4K anywhere near as cheap as current HDTV's you would need that to happen.
4K will always be more expensive than 1080P just as 1080P is more expensive than 720P sets.
That isn't to say 4K won't eventually be popular...it just won't happen any time in the near future. It will be years and years and years away. | |
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2 edits | Re: Won't be a market for it That is fine if a 4K TV were as cheap as an iPad. Point one out to me that is and I'll buy one. I was eyeballing a 4K TV and it was 5X the price of the previous poster's new LG.
The market will ignore 4K just as it ignored 3D and D-VHS. | |
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kudos:4 | said by skeechan: The market simply doesn't care about 3D..
1. Glasses
2. Dizziness
3. Nausea
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3d will never be anything other than a fad.
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Tempe, AZ | Re: Won't be a market for it said by dvd536:said by skeechan: The market simply doesn't care about 3D..
1. Glasses 2. Dizziness 3. Nausea - 3d will never be anything other than a fad. It's sad that the 3D effect in the 3DS doesn't bug me much at all but the glasses one does.
That and even on the glasses-based 3D, there's two different ways... one which requires expensive, powered glasses but gives you a full resolution's worth per eye, or the kind that can use cheaper glasses, but causes some bad interlacing on text or any smaller details. 
So yea, the handheld console seems to 'get' a proper 3D effect better than the big-arsed tv's that these companies want to sell so badly.
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Greenwich, CT | Re: Won't be a market for it said by C0deZer0:said by dvd536:said by skeechan: The market simply doesn't care about 3D..
1. Glasses 2. Dizziness 3. Nausea - 3d will never be anything other than a fad. It's sad that the 3D effect in the 3DS doesn't bug me much at all but the glasses one does. That and even on the glasses-based 3D, there's two different ways... one which requires expensive, powered glasses but gives you a full resolution's worth per eye, or the kind that can use cheaper glasses, but causes some bad interlacing on text or any smaller details. So yea, the handheld console seems to 'get' a proper 3D effect better than the big-arsed tv's that these companies want to sell so badly. Active glasses you are talking about
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kudos:2 | said by hitachi369:You say 3D never took off yet many entries level TV's now come with it. If there is no demand, why are they so cheap? Manufacturers are dumping inventory. If 3D was all that, the monitors would be priced more that $799. | |
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kudos:20 | The assumption that Netflix can't do 4K until everybody has a 4K TV is flawed. This is true perhaps for optical, where putting out a 4k bluray would be pointless if not enough people had he hardware to play it (and so buy it), but as a streaming platform that doesn't apply to Netflix. It will already automatically scale to the best bitrate and resolution supported by the target platform, and the same will happen here. Super HD didn't mean that users with 5 meg DSL couldn't keep watching stuff in HD, it just meant they didn't get any benefit out of it.
The absence of that hardware barrier is key. If the cost of 4K content isn't too high for Netflix, they avoid the whole chicken and egg problem.
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| Re: Won't be a market for it Oh sure they can...it's just no one will use it. They'll pay licensing for content no one is interested in.
4K is simply not compelling enough for people to give up their current sets. Netflix may very well do it, just as TV makers advertise 3D all over the place, but 4K won't be a demand driver for Netflix just as 3D isn't a demand driver for HDTVs (price and size are).
From a marketing perspective, no one is going to sign up for Netflix to get 4K, not enough to make the effort worth it anyway. Why? Those people will already be a subscribers whether 4K is there or not. | |
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| Re: Won't be a market for it No dummy, I'm comparing 3D to 4K. HDTV was a revolution like color was a revolution. 4K is a gimmick like 3D is a gimmick.
Even then, look how long it took HDTV to become the standard in household viewing...more than a decade; the first HDTV's debuted in the states in the mid 1990's. It will be the same or longer for 4K because TV is a major appliance that is only replaced when it breaks.
To get people to dump a working HDTV you have to have something way more bitchen than 4K. | |
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| Re: Won't be a market for it 4K vs. 1080p is nearly as much of a jump in quality as DVD vs. Blu-Ray was a few years ago.
Will 4K take a little while to catch on? Yes. So did 1080p HD sets. That isn't a problem.
Also, there are a fair number of devices out now that support better-than-1080p playback. Both Retina MacBooks, 27" and 30" desktop displays (including the iMac screen I'm sitting in front of right now) and a smattering of tablets (most notably the Nexus 10) come to mind. None support full 4K, but none represent as large a price premium as a 4K set would command if you tried to buy one right now.
As for me, as someone who doesn't have an immediate need to get an HDTV, and doesn't own a screen larger than 27" right now, 4K just might be a feature of the next set I buy. I'm certainly not interested in 1080p at this point, nor am I in 3D really. | |
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2 edits | Re: Won't be a market for it 4K is a huge benefit for the 80-90" sets, but for typical family room sets it will be difficult for people to tell 1080P from 4K unless the sets are next to each other. There was a chart floating around showing the benefit of 4K but it assumes people can discern 200px per degree which is B.S. Visual acuity simply isn't that good. Hell, they can't tell the difference between 720P and 1080i when changing from channel to channel.
4K will go like 3D, people will buy it when the TV happens to come with it. | |
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kudos:2 | I have had a CRT HDTV set since 2003. Supports 1080i and setup with hardware to pipe and scale to that resolution, stripping drm. Why? Because that set is sharper with better color than most LCDs and LEDs and I am not ready to retire it. So I used hardware I mostly had to adapt it. I do have some LEDs in other rooms but this CRT will keep its place in the house till ig dies. I bet many have the same feeling about post-HD advancements. I bought an hd set simply because ntsc resolutions give me a migraine. They are just awful. I think hd is good enough for most people and signal compression used by cable and satellite is typically the bottleneck during regular tv viewing. Ripped off the air broadcasts still look much better on 1080i, let alone 1080p. As a gamer, I can appreciate 4K, but not enough to replace a perfectly fine HDTV in this economy.
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kudos:2 | Re: Won't be a market for it Even if they did, resolution is meaningless. Compression is everything. Compression artifacts can kill apparent picture quality. | |
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Another point, I doubt TV's made these days will last for 10+ years like older TV's. I'd love to be proved wrong on this, but judging by consumer goods in general I'd have to say that the odds are in my favor.
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| Re: Won't be a market for it 4K is an absolute gimmick as consumers can't discern the quality difference when viewing on common sized TVs at typical viewing distances. They can't tell the difference between 720P and 1080P content as it is.
DLP light engines and lamps take dumps but LED backlit panels are pretty reliable. | |
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| said by KrK:4K is not a gimmick. 3D TV is.
Another point, I doubt TV's made these days will last for 10+ years like older TV's. I'd love to be proved wrong on this, but judging by consumer goods in general I'd have to say that the odds are in my favor.
And the 4K TVs also have 3D. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Won't be a market for it Some do some don't. The Toshiba I was looking at didn't. | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Content will be another barrier, somebody is going to have to actually make 4k shows and films available to consumers.
And what are the odds of Netflix even securing such premium content? the content owners are anti-technology and like to avoid Netflix all too much.
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Tempe, AZ | said by skeechan:Just like 3D never took off. No one is going to dump a working HDTV for 4K. It will be several years before 4K makes any kind of dent in the marketplace, especially given the lack of apparent visual improvement over 1080P in sets smaller than 50 or 60 inches. There is an improvement, depending on how far you are from the actual display.
Then again, I'm of the market that fails to understand why these same companies that can easily provide a 1080p or higher resolution display on as little as a 15" monitor and now a 5" phone but then refuse to provide something with as good or better pixel density just because it's badged as a TV.
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A 4K set is capable of doing 1080P 3D without glasses. Or so they demo'd. »streamtvnetworks.com/ultra-d.shtml
Just search google for 4K 3D without glasses.
I await the wallpaper evolution of OLED...much like the 1st Total Recall...
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| Re: Won't be a market for it said by cableties:Well...not quite. What about 4DX!
A 4K set is capable of doing 1080P 3D without glasses. Or so they demo'd. »streamtvnetworks.com/ultra-d.shtml
Just search google for 4K 3D without glasses.
I await the wallpaper evolution of OLED...much like the 1st Total Recall...
It may be possible but all the UHD sets for sale still use glasses. | |
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Tempe, AZ | To be fair, a 4K display has more marketability than 3D. Unlike 3D, 4K res displays (monitors and TV's alike) are something that can universally benefit, and don't require wearing stupid, expensive, battery-sucking glasses to be able to appreciate their benefits and positives.
In the short term, it would mean being able to watch four 1080p feeds simultaneously, which means a one-screen lan party for those interested. And that is already something worth getting excited about.
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Once I move to college apartment, here's got Gigabit internet, but most students don't know that because most of them only use laptop, hence limited by the wifi. I plug in the Cat5 cable and see gigbait, i thought "it's probably only the intranet speed, no way the WAN side is that fast", later i did a speedtest, i constantly clocked 600M+ speed both up and down, now this totally changed my internet behavior, ever since i ditched DSL and sign up for charter's 30M cable. There's a HUGE difference from 3 to 30, not sure after 50 or 100 though, probably diminishing return.
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I'm watching the evening news while I'm writing this post. The DVR is nice as you can watch the shows on your schedule. I also fast forward commercials as well.
Sometimes I think of switching to DirecTV but it is cheaper to bundle TV, home phone, and Internet with Comcast.
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Etobicoke, ON | Re: Caps are not an issue for me said by IowaCowboy:I subscribe to cable TV so caps are not an issue for me.
I'm watching the evening news while I'm writing this post. The DVR is nice as you can watch the shows on your schedule. I also fast forward commercials as well.
Sometimes I think of switching to DirecTV but it is cheaper to bundle TV, home phone, and Internet with Comcast.
I don't subscribe to TV and caps are not an issue for me.
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Camden, TN | Re: How much usage? Well 4K has 4 times the pixels of 1080p and is Super HD uses 5-7 Mbps logic says 4K would use 20-28 Mbps. Of course if they use H.265 or something like that it might be 10-12 Mbps | |
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Etobicoke, ON | Re: How much usage? said by BF69:Well 4K has 4 times the pixels of 1080p and is Super HD uses 5-7 Mbps logic says 4K would use 20-28 Mbps. Of course if they use H.265 or something like that it might be 10-12 Mbps
4K would use 10-14 Mbps or 5-6Mbps with H.265. 4 times the pixels does not mean 4 times the bitrate. | |
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kudos:2 | I never heard of 4K What is is it?
I know of 3D, and Super HD but never heard of 4K until this was posted.
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kudos:2 | Re: I never heard of 4K Stack 1080p in a 2x2 grid. You now have 4K. It's not quite the quality difference between a (well-mastered) DVD and a (well-mastered) Blu-Ray, but it comes very close. | |
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Tom Rutledge, the CEO of Charter is a perfect example of "leading the customer by the nose", business practices. Basically this prig
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Etobicoke, ON | Re: More empty hype from the brass tacks! said by horseathalt7:either 30mb or 100mb service and NOTHING else....take it or leave it.
That's the way it should be. The tiers aren't the problem. It's the pricing and their greed. | |
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| brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | Re: If it happens.... said by battleop:If it happens count on 4-6 years at best but certainly not a year or two.
Hah. Within 2 years time 4K will be happening. | |
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| | | | Re: If it happens.... Maybe on a very small limited scale but not mainstream. | |
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| | snark! *starts throwing money at 4k tv makers.* | |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | US ISP's aren't up to the task Most US ISP's don't provide a decent enough connection for a good HD stream more or less a 4K stream, CDN servers or not.
They'll make sure they use caps and overages to keep it that way, too. I'm not seeing any signs of any willingness to bring good speed to the masses for a reasonable price.... other then Google Fiber, and that's a very limited area.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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hussle87Premium
join:2008-01-06
Sykesville, MD | 4K Hecht with 4ktv i would rather have 21:9 true cinema tv like the one vizio produced but got discontinued or atleast a steady 60fps on a 1080p display. | |
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join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | Much Ado About Nothing 4K streams of ... what?
Netflix can offer an $8 streaming package, because they have no significant modern content; their "competition" is even worse.
Until Netflix steps up and pays for real content, at which time they will have to charge substantially more, 4K won't matter.
The "cap" issue will be moot. If Netflix (or Apple) wants to see their product succeed, they will buy out the caps for their customers. | |
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 simlesaPremium
join:2006-04-14
Astoria, NY | Interlaced or Progressive? Are the first 4K sets interlaced like the early HDTVs? If so, are we also going to see a 4x720p or 1440p resolution being supported? | |
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