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The Lan Man
Premium
join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs: | Finally good news. Finally their is something to look forward to in broadband. If this works, then alot of people will be able to get internet access from cell towers. And it will be more competition for ISP's | |
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hhooooooooo
@attbi.com | Ain't holding my breath! Maybe a nice European or Japanese company can these yahoos how deployment's done! These spot deployments are a farce! I'm still waiting for Verizon's cheesy deployment! | |
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superdog
I Need A Drink
Premium,MVM
join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA
1 edit | OFDM is not that great While OFDM technologies work fairly well in areas with a lot of solid surfaces(Downtown Manhattan comes to mind), Don't get to excited if they put these radios on a tower in a nice leafy area(read: Trees:D ). They will be competing with all of the local WISP's, as their radios will need line of site, Just like the WISP's!
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»www.wavecrazy.net | |
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Phil
Rojo Sol
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA | Too many users - LOL I got the following message trying to log into my account - "There are currently too many users using the system. Please try again in a few minutes."
Must be getting hammered.
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fRiTz+Nomad+ | |
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bistro777
Donuts-Is There Anything They Can't Do?
Premium
join:2002-02-07
Englewood, CO
1 edit | Before we get toooooo excited... ...remember that, after a series of successes, Craig McCaw founded XO Communications. By the end of 2001 the start-up found itself mired in $7 billion worth of debt. On June 17, 2002, XO filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
According to the Financial Times' list of "Barons of Bankruptcy," Mr. McCaw ranked #7 after cashing-out of XO for mega-bucks. (He's ranked in the Forbes 400 of wealtiest persons in America).
But the telecom implosion did affect his lifestyle a bit - sold a 780-acre island near Vancouver, his 300-foot yacht, a jet, etc.
So let's see what kind of substance and staying-power Mr. McCaw has this time around before we get tooooo excited... | |
| Angrychair
join:2000-09-20
Jacksonville, FL
 ·Comcast
 ·AT&T Southeast
| Clearwire hasn't left me impressed As someone in Jacksonville who has had the misfortune to use clearwire (at my place of employment) I can resoundingly declare it a total failure.
Speeds were ~40KB/s on a GREAT day, with the usual being much closer to isdn than DSL or cable. The disconnections of service are frequent and the tech support is really bad. Not to even mention the fact that the signal can be night and day bad to good without you changing anything on your end.
If this represents the future of competition for cable and dsl then I'm sure cable and phone companies aren't worried in the least. | |
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brianhn1
Sup Brotha
join:2003-01-26
Jacksonville, FL
clubs:
| Re: Clearwire hasn't left me impressed I was also one that used Clearwire service in Jacksonville, FL. It was painfully slow because of the such high latency that was encountered during the use of the service. Ping times were always above 300ms when I was about 7 miles from a main tower, but about 100ms when I was less than a mile away.
Weather also affected the speeds. On a cloudy day, signal was worse than on a clear day.
Service would have been better if more towers were deployed and an external antenna was given with the modem. The modem was a disaster, many times mine would over heat because it required a clear view of the antenna thus being exposed to tons of heat.
The only way for wireless providers to actually be able to compete is if they have multiple towers, have a reliable modem or receiver (similar to Clearwire's because it has a builtin battery for mobility) that could actually obtain signal through multiple towers instead of only one, and gurantee that speeds are above a certain level.
Wireless will never be reliable, it is just affected by too many factors to be cost effective. Cellular phones have already proven that is just will never be reliable as cable or DSL.
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^^^ What he said ^^^ | |
| | ced06
join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA | Price? $80? The latency depends upon distance from the tower?
Doesn't sound too good to me. | |
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TJ19971
Blues fan with a camera
Premium
join:2003-10-11
Sioux Falls, SD | Re: Price? I agree. With dsl & cable access FAR below that why bother | |
| | | ced06
join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA
| Re: Price? Well it seems like a good idea (except for price + latency) for people like me...local broadband ISPs can't serve me because:
1) too far out for dsl (25k foot from co)
2) load coil on my phone lines
3) can't get cable!
4) wireless isp is insanely expensive (~$100/month for 256k/256k)
I'm pretty much screwed over.  | |
| | | | chex383
join:2003-03-13
Montreal, QC
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
1 edit | Re: Price? Ced!
Your in Towanda, Penna. Jct of US-220 and US-6. Very rural and empty area of North-East Pennsylvania. I've ridden my motorcycle out there on bike-trips, and its amazing beautiful farm country. Lots of cows, farms and woods. I especially love SR-414 that winds west of Towanda towards US-15. I'll ride for 10-15 minutes on that curvy road and not see another car pass me by. Not many people, businesses or infrastructure. If you want good internet connectivity out there, your gonna have to PAY for it.
Unless the Fedz come up with a 'Rural Broadification Act' like they did for electricity and telephone, your going to have to pay a LOT more for the same kind of access us city-folks do. 
It's kind of a sad thing, broadband access costs a lot more to people who live in rural areas, and generally don't make as much money as people in cities, who get the same services for less. But this is why everyone is in the city, and not the country.  This is why cities work. It's called 'economies of scale'.
Can I drop in and say hello, bring you a 6-pack to enjoy the country air next time I'm riding out there? Its the least this city boy can do for a country boy who is addicted to speeeeeeed.
see ya man
- stefan | |
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join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA
| Well, with any hope I'll be moving out in a few years (I'm 15).
Adelphia decided to do a $1.5 million upgrade to the cable infrastructure on Towanda, which includes cable interenet...I saw an Adelphia truck (and a fiber truck) a few miles away from my house. Argh, it makes me angry that they won't lay cable a few more miles.
Towanda is nice for the scenery, I guess. Not too useful for anything else, quite frankly. | |
| | | | | keason
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Ann Arbor, MI
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| SpeednetLLC , a wireless ISP based in Saginaw MI has installed Nextnet in Bay City and Mt. Pleasant MI. The nextnet eq is non-line of sight wireless - it works through trees, and minor obstacles. Latency is comparible to DSL and speed is 2-3Mb down. Nextnet can also be mounted in a vehicle.
They use licensed spectrum (unlike most WISPs) so there are no interference problems.
Speednet charges $45 (home) /mo and includes a static IP with every account. Mt. Pleasant is a college town (Central Michigan U) and most students don't have land lines - Speednet is $15-$30 cheaper than DSL (inc phone) or Cable.
They also offer a VoIP service phone service on the wireless for an additional charge.
$80 seems excessive.
www.speednetllc.com | |
| | | | | | chex383
join:2003-03-13
Montreal, QC
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
| Re: Nexnet already installed in Michigan Man, thats totally awesome. Wireless companies are completely organic, some good ones in some areas, others have nothing. Wireless economics works better in sparsely populated areas, than fixed-line access does, but its still weak.
Why aren't these guys listed under a BBR ISP category? Someone get these guys listed!
If I could switch to a reasonably fast (say 800/200 kbps), low-latency (> 100ms) wireless provider, I would pay up to $80 a month to switch away from Verizon ADSL. I am paying them a total of $60/mo for the stripped-down POTS and DSL line.
There is one wireless provider in Boston who is reasonable, but the headache of getting hardware installed on my rented building in the North End is too much of a headache.
-- Stefan
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Sung to the old New England Telephone Ad Jingle: " We're the only one New Eng-Lund, Hell-Ri-zon Tele-phonnnnne! " | |
| richardak
join:2001-07-08
Seguin, TX
| remember Teledesic ? Here is the archive of their website since it's now just a static page where none of the links work:
»web.archive.org/web/200302101756···bout.htm
Those that were following Teledesic, remember how the launch date kept getting further and further into the future?
Craig McCaw
Craig McCaw is the Chairman and co-Chief Executive Officer of Teledesic and provides its strategic direction. McCaw was the chairman and chief executive officer of McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc., the nation's leading provider of wireless communications services, until the company was sold to AT&T in August 1994. Prior to founding McCaw Cellular, he built a family-owned cable TV company with 4,000 subscribers into the nation's 20th largest cable operator serving 450,000 subscribers. McCaw also is chairman and chief executive officer of Eagle River, Inc., a company formed to make strategic investments in telecommunications ventures. He is a primary shareholder of Nextel Communications, Inc., a leading national wireless communications provider. | |
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Augustus III
If Only Rome Could See Us Now....
join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA | let's see Another company that begins with one or two cities and is inevitably destined for failure.
Did I pass the new wireless exam or what.  | |
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fromalaska2u
@clearwire-dns.ne |  clearwire external antenna?
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Look out ClearWire here comes JOYTEL.