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Ummm....Doesn't the concurrent use of data and voice on ATT require 3G coverage? And if so, it makes the Verizon ads even more powerful imo, showing ATT's lack of 3G.
Comment: Although, I do have to admit that I'd love to be able to use both data and voice at the same time, ATT just doesn't have the coverage required to do that in a lot of areas that I frequent. In my area, CDMA rules the roost so to speak. Too many dead areas with GSM locally to be worth my while of looking into it. | |
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Re: Ummm....Yeah... like the outage this morning in NC that left the Triangle without 3G service for most of the morning. » www.wral.com/business/st ··· 6478280/- - - AT&T Wireless restores data access in Triangle area AT&T Posted: Today at 10:31 a.m. Updated: Today at 12:43 p.m. Raleigh, N.C. â AT&T Wireless customers in the Triangle area experienced trouble with the networks high-speed data services on Monday morning. An AT&T spokesperson in Charlotte said intermittent outages had taken place. Service was restored around 11 a.m. "Due to an equipment issue, some AT&T customers in the Raleigh area may have experienced issues with their 3G data service earlier this morning," AT&T's Amy Bristle said. "AT&T technicians have resolved the issue, and all service should be running normally. We apologize for any inconvenience to our customers." A WRAL viewer had contacted WRAL.com to report No 3G service for me today. 3G is a reference to third-generation service, which offers higher upload and download services that older networks. 3G also better supports multi-media services such as access to the Web, photos and images as well as video. | |
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And of courseif you are in an AT&T store looking at the demo iPhones, they're all set to use WiFi and not 3G. Most customers are unaware and think 3G is so fast! LOL | |
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This feature on the iPhone in a 3g coverage area hardly never works. I say 1 out of 10 times I try to surf the web when talking it will actually work. Most of the time I get an error meassage along the lines of "data currently unavalible" | |
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And you can talk and browse concurrently on a CDMA(Verizon & Sprint) smartphone .... if you are using WiFi to do the browsing.
Now I never actually do browsing and talking on my smartphone ever anyway. But I read this topic and thought I'd try it out. And you can't browse and talk if out of range of a WiFi hotspot. But I was able to talk and browse when my Palm Pre was connected to my home WiFi router.
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2009-Nov-23 5:14 pm
Re: Talk & browse on Verizon/Sprint CDMA if using WiFiI'll agree that this feature is not a 'big deal' for the average user, or even most users.
I have dropped my SSH tunnel when calls/sms come in, which is a real pain, as I use the SSH tunnel for work, and the sms/call for incoming pages. In general, even for me, it isn't a huge issue, more of a minor annoyance. | |
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If you want to be limited by a provider then definitely go with verizon, cdma technology has been around so long that their map shouldn't have any white on it. But if you want to keep up with technology and get the full experience then go with At&t. Both companies need to focus on the people that build and maintain the network instead of pissing away money on tit for tat. | |
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2009-Nov-23 12:31 pm
Re: Ummm....said by JoeShmoe :
If you want to be limited by a provider then definitely go with verizon, cdma technology has been around so long that their map shouldn't have any white on it. But if you want to keep up with technology and get the full experience then go with At&t. Both companies need to focus on the people that build and maintain the network instead of pissing away money on tit for tat. WOW spoken like a true at&t fanboi/employee/cult member. Just amazing. That at&t kool-aid must be mighty good. | |
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2009-Nov-23 1:31 pm
Re: Ummm....said by 88615298:said by JoeShmoe :
If you want to be limited by a provider then definitely go with verizon, cdma technology has been around so long that their map shouldn't have any white on it. But if you want to keep up with technology and get the full experience then go with At&t. Both companies need to focus on the people that build and maintain the network instead of pissing away money on tit for tat. WOW spoken like a true at&t fanboi/employee/cult member. Just amazing. That at&t kool-aid must be mighty good. Fanboy posting from a VZ domain? For me AT&T has been good, depends on the area of the country though. Some providers are better in some geographical areas. | |
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2009-Nov-23 1:59 pm
Re: Ummm....He could be posting from a friend's phone, or a company issued phone.
One of my employees was recently issued a Storm 2 and was all pissed off he didn't get an iPhone.
I just about snatched the damn thing back from him, and told him to pay for his own damn calls. The company contract is with Verizon, this is what they give me to give you.
Sorry, but domain name gives an anon post ZERO CRED. | |
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2009-Nov-23 2:11 pm
Re: Ummm....said by N3OGH:He could be posting from a friend's phone, or a company issued phone. One of my employees was recently issued a Storm 2 and was all pissed off he didn't get an iPhone. I just about snatched the damn thing back from him, and told him to pay for his own damn calls. The company contract is with Verizon, this is what they give me to give you. Sorry, but domain name gives an anon post ZERO CRED. I am not saying that it gives him/her credibility, just fairly funny if you ask me. The person stated what they thought and was instantly branded a shill/fanboy etc. Just funny when it is posted from a VZ domain. | |
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Perhaps JoeShmoe had to use a Verizon device because they could not get service with their AT&T phone? | |
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Nice try BF69, you are so wrong. Im actually using Verizon but as soon as my contract is up I will be switching to at&t. Thats right I'm waiting because Verizons ETF are rediculous. As for the at&t Kool-aid remark...it is played out, be more creative, I've only read it about 1000X's. Oh yeah and I am not and never have worked for either company, nor am I interested to. Just stating the facts as I see them here in Miami. | |
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Re: Ummm....said by JoeShmoe :
As for the at&t Kool-aid remark...it is played out, be more creative, I've only read it about 1000X's. Stop explaining. We have all seen the maps. | |
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If you want to be limited by a provider ... Then go with AT&T for the suckiest 3G coverage... | |
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Suckiest? nah!As a T-Mo customer, I would love to have At&T's 3G coverage! | |
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Re: Suckiest? nah!I'd think that Nextel would have to be the worst 3G coverage... NONE. | |
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said by JoeShmoe :
If you want to be limited by a provider then definitely go with verizon, cdma technology has been around so long that their map shouldn't have any white on it. But if you want to keep up with technology and get the full experience then go with At&t. Both companies need to focus on the people that build and maintain the network instead of pissing away money on tit for tat. I prefer to have something out where I live. ATT is pretty close to nothing. | |
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I have used my Nokia E70 on wifi and speaker phone at the same time. I never tried it with data.
It would be stupid if you can't use speaker phone while sending an email or looking up something online.. | |
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2009-Nov-23 11:36 am
As an AT&T customer..I think this is a complete joke. You cannot surf/talk with EDGE and most of the country falls in that category. My city finally got 3G a few months ago and it's great, but the coverage isn't all that great. If it wasn't for the iPhone, I would switch from AT&T sooner rather than later. | |
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Re: As an AT&T customer..said by gigahurtz:I think this is a complete joke. You cannot surf/talk with EDGE and most of the country falls in that category. But not the most population... there is a difference of how much area you cover versus how much population you cover. Neither AT&T nor Verizon's map shows it... Let's also be fair: AT&T does need to get their network together; they need to expend their 3G coverage and 3G capacity; etc. etc. My city finally got 3G a few months ago and it's great, but the coverage isn't all that great. If it wasn't for the iPhone, I would switch from AT&T sooner rather than later. That I am with you: iPhone needs to be put on more networks. | |
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2009-Nov-23 4:46 pm
Re: As an AT&T customer..Try a Motorola Droid or HTC Eris on Verizon and you might change your mind about the iPhone. I did.
I'm surprised no one ever mentions how crappy voice quality is on GSM vs. CDMA. I think GSM is where the term "it sounds like you're on a cell phone" came from.... | |
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2009-Nov-23 5:21 pm
Re: As an AT&T customer..I think that's with GSM (2g) on AMR-half rate codec. I would agree with you on that (garbled). GSM on EFR or AMR-full rate is close to land line quality, and IMO, better than that of CDMA. 3G UMTS vs. CDMA ... not much of difference. I've found CDMA EVRC codec to have a more digitized/robotic sound , and to some extent, very aggressive DTX cutting out sound at the end of or start of speech. | |
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Hold on i need to hang up to look up the information, i'll call you right back because evdo 3G has serious limitations and a very low top speed that isn't planned on being upped. No thanks. When i talk to someone on my iPhone, if i'm holding it to my ear it sounds like a regular landline, if i put on the included headset, it sounds like i'm standing 6 inches from the person hearing every tone of every letter they pronounce while talking to me as if i'm in a one on one conversation with a person inside my head. Have that, will keep. - A | |
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2009-Nov-25 11:24 am
Re: As an AT&T customer..said by FastiBook:Hold on i need to hang up to look up the information, i'll call you right back because evdo 3G has serious limitations and a very low top speed that isn't planned on being upped. No thanks. When i talk to someone on my iPhone, if i'm holding it to my ear it sounds like a regular landline, if i put on the included headset, it sounds like i'm standing 6 inches from the person hearing every tone of every letter they pronounce while talking to me as if i'm in a one on one conversation with a person inside my head. Have that, will keep. - A I must say, I can't complain about AT&T's call quality. I have had no problems at all with that on my iPhone. | |
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said by tokevino:That I am with you: iPhone needs to be put on more networks. That is not ATT's fault. Your have to blame your idol stevie jobs for that. He is the one that hated on all the nonATT users. | |
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2009-Nov-24 7:42 am
Re: As an AT&T customer..said by r81984:said by tokevino:That I am with you: iPhone needs to be put on more networks. That is not ATT's fault. Your have to blame your idol stevie jobs for that. He is the one that hated on all the nonATT users. Wrong. He went to VZW and other providers and they laughed him out. Then he went to AT&T and AT&T decided to carry the iPhone, but wanted the exclusivity contract. It's neither AT&T or Steve Job's fault. It's the other U.S. carriers that rejected them. If Steve Jobs really hated "nonATT users", as you say, then there wouldn't by any iPhones in foreign countries. Get your facts straight. | |
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2009-Nov-24 7:56 am
Re: As an AT&T customer..Stevie Jobs wanted the exclusivity, they could have created the phone for CDMA and GSM. They did not even need a contract to do it, but Apple wanted to ensure money with very little liability so they made a deal with a carrier. Only person to blame is Stevie Jobs. | |
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2009-Nov-24 7:59 am
Re: As an AT&T customer..Again, you are wrong. AT&T wouldn't take the iPhone unless they had an exclusive contract. They were taking a gamble with the iPhone and wanted to make sure that they could at least make back something.
They would have created a CDMA phone if VZW accepted to take the iPhone. And now VZW wishes they took the iPhone.
You make no sense. iPhone is carried in 70+ countries, with hundreds of carriers. This has nothing to do with little liability. | |
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2009-Nov-23 11:41 am
LOLBesides a cheap ad, 90% of the ad is false. ATT hugging their money on improving network and now they won't even spend $$$ to make a good ad. | |
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Re: LOLsaid by glinc:Besides a cheap ad, 90% of the ad is false. ATT hugging their money on improving network and now they won't even spend $$$ to make a good ad. Most of the ATT ads are false. For example, more bars in more places? The best coverage? If you read the fine print they say "based on international coverage." What use is international coverage to me? I hardly travel overseas anyway, and when I do I use a local prepaid phone to avoid paying the outrageous roaming charges. | |
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2009-Nov-25 7:31 pm
Re: LOLThe same thing can be said about Verzion's "maps" - I don't care what people who live around 100 miles of cornfields can or cannot get. I leave my home city maybe 2x per year, if that, and my AT&T coverage to the airport, from the destination airport to the destination address and at the destination place is 100% w/o any issues. I don't think the majority of the US Population gives 2 rats' asses about any coverage outside of what they need themselves. Can't get coverage with provider A - got with provider B (if they can give you coverage). | |
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2009-Nov-23 11:51 am
Radio Ad InconsistencyJust heard a new AT&T radio this morning, two actually, they claim to cover over 23,000 cities & towns, fine, I'll buy that. Then they have a young girl act like she is going read postcards from all these places. She reads off the first five then told she has only 11,000 or so left, what the hell? Where did the other 12,000+ cities go? | |
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Re: Radio Ad Inconsistencysaid by Mr Fel:Just heard a new AT&T radio this morning, two actually, they claim to cover over 23,000 cities & towns, fine, I'll buy that. Then they have a young girl act like she is going read postcards from all these places. She reads off the first five then told she has only 11,000 or so left, what the hell? Where did the other 12,000+ cities go? Not only can AT&T not build a network, but I guess their math skills are also lacking! | |
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said by Mr Fel:Just heard a new AT&T radio this morning, two actually, they claim to cover over 23,000 cities & towns, fine, I'll buy that. Then they have a young girl act like she is going read postcards from all these places. She reads off the first five then told she has only 11,000 or so left, what the hell? Where did the other 12,000+ cities go? Well I know that girl didn't get a postcard from my town or any town within 70 miles of me. At least if they are talking about 3g and if they aren't who cares? Like I care if at&t can give me twice dial-up speeds. At least I wouldn't go over any 5 GB cap I guess. | |
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Have often do you even need to talk and surf at same time?I can't recall a time where I needed to talk and surf the web at the same time. | |
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2009-Nov-23 12:06 pm
Luke Wilson an Expert?If I remember some case law Mr. Wilson can be held partially legally responsible if he is mouthing incorrect information.
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2009-Nov-23 1:02 pm
Re: Luke Wilson an Expert?said by NO to ESPN :
If I remember some case law Mr. Wilson can be held partially legally responsible if he is mouthing incorrect information.
But then, is Luke Wilson an expert? I am pretty sure it would be ATT who would get in trouble, he is PAID to say what they WANT | |
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2009-Nov-23 12:13 pm
Apple Commercials..I just noticed that the iPhone 3GS Apple commercials, at the end, now say "Can your phone and network do that?"
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Everybody is entitled...to their own opinion. Based mainly on where you are located the services will differ. I had Verizon and Sprint here in Miami and they IMO worked very well. So does the AT&T service I have now. All three have dropped calls and at times slow internet connections. Big deal a radio is a radio.
The good thing about this commercial war is that it will stimulate network growth for both networks. It is time that we got some competition going on here. Let them battle it out and throw mud around. If AT&T is smart they will beef up their network. Verizon will also have to move on certain features as well.
Now can we talk about something different already? Everyday the same thing is getting a bit boring. Any progress on Verizon's LTE? How about UVerse? Is it expanding or what? Have the speeds increased? | |
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2009-Nov-23 12:14 pm
lolon the bottom of the ad it says "3G not available in all areas". | |
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2009-Nov-23 12:16 pm
Simultaneous talk & surfIt's great when it works on AT&T. However for non-3G phones (there are a fair umber of them) and in non-3G areas (remember, Verizon has 5x the 3G coverage of AT&T) you don't get that feature.
For what it's worth, I don't recall ever needing to surf the web while on a call, though I can see why some people would need t do it. Guess it's just the way I use my phone, though I'd figure that 99.9% of folks would be in my boat (more 3G coverage > talk = surf simultaneously on a phone).
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2009-Nov-23 1:36 pm
Re: IPhone...Iphone multitasks just fine. you have to put down the apple kool-aid and jailbreak it though. I talk to the girlfriend with my handsfree and use the internet all the time with it, with multiple apps open if I need to. | |
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2009-Nov-23 6:44 pm
Re: IPhone...said by jailbreakit :
Iphone multitasks just fine. you have to put down the apple kool-aid and jailbreak it though. I talk to the girlfriend with my handsfree and use the internet all the time with it, with multiple apps open if I need to. It multitasks "just fine". I was an iPhone 3G for over a year. I loved it, hated AT&T with a passion though. Now I have a Palm Pre. While in some areas it's lacking, Palm will (if they want to remain a company..) improve on things and progress is being made. One area where the Pre kicks major ass though... multitasking. It's not "just fine", it's damn near perfect... Right out of the box. What's silly is Apple could implement it so cleanly right now using Cover Flow as a means of organizing and closing open apps. I'm sure they will someday but for now Palm has beat them to the punch. Now I'm just waiting for Palm to enable the GPU in my Pre so the wonderful UI runs a little smoother. When I did have the iPhone, I do recall using simultaneous voice and data a few times. It's by no means something I rely on nor is it something I wish I currently had as I'm in WiFi spots more than I'm not. In fact, I'd say whenever I can use my phone, there's WiFi to be had a good portion of the time. Not really something AT&T should be flaunting as much as they are but.. what do I care. I'm not even a customer of theirs anymore. | |
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Typical hypocrisyI can say first I guess I don't get the ads - From the DSLR paraphrase AT&T is claiming that people can't talk and surf. Well, this is really true on either companies "dumb" handsets, there is no multi-tasking with the proprietary OSes. However, Windows Mobile devices can certainly multi-task; (which some DSLR members seem to dislike on basis of the UI, which it may have its problems but the iPhone isn't flawless either people) surf and talk at the same time. Now someone did post that they were able to surf and talk on their Pre if they were connected via wifi - I can't see any reason why this is...unless a phone call takes ALL of the cellular channel to the tower. Where I live I think AT&T works great, I usually have full bars in my room...though I have noticed I get a lot more dropped calls lately but I can live with it. I perform TOS violating actions, I pay the monthly fee, and AT&T leaves me alone a perfect symbiotic relationship. We won't even go into the simple fact that most TOS contradict themselves but that is another story itself. I think every carrier really is digging their grave by branding phones. Here is a perfect example of what I mean: » androidcommunity.com/for ··· w-23072/Everyone claims that their android device runs better, faster, and smoother by rooting it. Why is not something that should be done at the factory if it means a better user experience? I think every iPhone user would agree that jailbroke their device that jailbreaking makes their iPhone infinitely better. My point is simply - forget the network, if you don't have the devices that have a good user experience then why bother bickering over who has the better network when your devices suck? I don't even think I should remind people of what verizon did (or still does) to ruin the user experience with their "dumb" handsets. | |
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2009-Nov-23 1:21 pm
How many of you have actually tried AT&T?Wow, look at all you Verizon fans!
Have many of you actually *used* AT&T, or are you just jumping on a bandwagon? I ask because I use AT&T (in fact I have four lines through them) and my experience has been very good.
Yes, the data and voice is a good thing to have. When I'm talking on my iPhone I get a quiet audio notification that an email or text message has come in. Killer app? No. Handy? Absolutely.
As for the coverage? I live in a metro area, and 3G works everywhere I go. Period. Never had a problem with it.
In my travels, I have certainly spent lots of time on EDGE. Not the greatest, to be sure...but it works, and I can still use my phone.
It seems as though Verizon is trying to solve a problem that doesn't really exist, and has people buying it hook, line, and sinker.
It's good marketing, and nothing more.
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Talk and Data?I want to be able to Talk and surf and drive my car at the same time while shaving and reading the newspaper, drinking my coffee and listening to Howard Stern on my Satellite radio......
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Re: Talk and Data?With the headset on, i can easily talk to 2+ people on conference call mode, while looking up info on the web, text, check email and receive other information such as direction & location service based uses with my iPhone, on the train. Try doing that with a pre, a droid, or any of these half-assed gimmick hype machine phones. I can tell you now before you waste your time trying, it won't work. The iPhone stands totally alone, peerless in its overall capability, usability, and you have to admit, it is pretty sexy too.
Everyone has their own views, experiences, preferences, and opinions. These however do not change the fact that the iPhone+GSM, even when it drops back to EDGE is a pretty killer combo. As a long standing cingular/att subscriber i feel lucky not only that apple went with att as launch partner, but that i'm even able to afford such a marvelous indispensable useful device.
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2009-Nov-23 3:39 pm
simplereally simple at&t just thinks of the here and now thats why they inked the deal for the iphone they wanted the cash now and same goes for there uverse stuff they want the customers now and dont care about the future
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UverseWhat is so wrong for a company with a business plan to push fiber into every neighborhood in their service area first and then extend it to the homes. IMHO it is a smart one that makes sense from a business stand point. Use your existing infrastructure for the last mile while paying for the upgrades to the feed side of the loop. Then you can upgrade the distribution side later. There is a lot of costs involved in doing this. Just read on this site for all of the problems that have had with placements of the cabinets,ROW,easements,etc... placing the fiber cables.
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The latest counter Ad from AT&T We at AT&T Have Polished a Turd |
And here are the new spokesmen for AT&T introducing AT&T's new slogan. | |
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2009-Nov-23 5:02 pm
Re: The latest counter Ad from AT&TAMEN, REVEREND!!! | |
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2009-Nov-23 5:31 pm
outside getting directions from google maps while on phoneWho else is web browsing while on the phone?
When someone calls me while I am using google maps to find my way to my next job, I am slowed down, since I cannot get directions until the call is through.
For the average, and even power user.. does this matter? Can you really browse the web and keep up a phone conversation while paying attention to both? | |
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r81984
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2009-Nov-23 5:35 pm
The Godfather....Anyone that uses the Godfather in an ad wins. | |
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