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kudos:1 | why that is a ROKU BOX!
DUH APPLE!!!! | |
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00000 | Re: why that is a Agreed. It's Roku but less attractive. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: why that is a said by morbo:Agreed. It's Roku but less attractive. I watch the programs, not the box they come from... | |
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00000 | Re: why that is a My comment was not meant to be about the physical box, but the framework and capabilities of it. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: why that is a Apple TV is still a dog either way. | |
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Riverhead, NY | uninterested Netflix can do a monthly "eat your heart out", why can't Apple?
Hulu give it away....
Sorry, every time I look at Apple tv I just wonder WHY....
I'll wait for the boxee box... | |
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kudos:2 | Re: uninterested Because it'll have a unibody aluminum case with an apple etched in it. Apple has the growing ecosystem and the marketing prowess to make it work. | |
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Hilliard, OH | Re: uninterested Certainly it's the apple logo and nothing to do with what the content providers are willing to make available nor what they are demanding Apple charge nor the fact that netflix's content is second rate, at best.
It's amazing people jump all over apple based on a rumor with no real information. If it was free, 1080p, and cleaned up the oil spill people would still bash it because it's apple.
Amazing, really. | |
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Benton, AR | Re: uninterested nope not so. I wont bite because of the cost. I am not going pay for the TV shows to rent them. At the cost of individual show rentals I might as well buy the box set of what ever show it is. I wont throw DVR the shows and what not but I just can not justify paying for TV shows that are for the most part over the air for free or streamed from the network for free also. I just don't see the value of this item. Before you try to say oh my god he hates apple, I have two iphones and several ipods so I do buy apple products just wont buy this one nor will I buy and iPhone XL whoops im sorry I meant to say iPad. :P | |
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1 edit | Wrong. Apple can provide poop on a plate and people (e.g the appleites) would lap it up, as long as St. Steve calls it a breakthrough, miraculous, or whatever else nonsense he throws out there.
Product quality, capability, etc. has nothing to do with the matter. | |
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Hilliard, OH | Re: uninterested You're both misunderstanding me. I'm not saying it's going to be a good deal. I'm not saying it will be a good product. What I AM saying is we don't know what it will be AND if it truly sucks just because it says Apple on it won't make it successful.
Goober - Want proof? Look at the current AppleTV product. It sucks, and nobody bought it.
Maybe, just maybe....their other products that DO perform (ie iphone) are actually good and it's not a blind following as those who choose other products would have you believe. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: uninterested said by beaups:products that DO perform (ie iphone) are actually good Thanks for the laugh. I guess that's why when one friend with an iPhone calls me I get a symphony of touch tones and garbled, stuttering voice before it cuts out completely almost every time.
Admit Apple has turned to the dark side as an all-talk consumer electronics company (and not the proud Apple Computer they once were) and move on. | |
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Hilliard, OH | Re: uninterested I don't care if apple is on the dark or light side. I don't care about their philosophy or corporate culture. I care about products that work well and suit my needs.
All mfr's have their issues and apple certainly has their fair share.
Now that I know your "one friend" has an issue with his iphone or att service, then that must mean that all the products are terrible. Thanks for letting me know that. Up till now I had thought they were perfect. | |
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However, you can't extrapolate that single sample into somehow proclaiming the entire sphere of Apple products suck. Well you can, it's just not logically correct. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: uninterested I think you missed the sarcasm . . . | |
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1 edit | Re: uninterested Don't think so. | |
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kudos:2 | said by Goober:I think you missed the sarcasm . . . I think they both missed the point... | |
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Hilliard, OH | Re: uninterested I understood both your points, they are just wrong. | |
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1 edit | Re: uninterested So when you said, "Now that I know your "one friend" has an issue with his iphone or att service, then that must mean that all the products are terrible. Thanks for letting me know that. Up till now I had thought they were perfect," you really meant it?
Thanks for the clarification.
Did you maybe get the sarcasm there? | |
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Hilliard, OH | Re: uninterested Perhaps. Did you get my sarcasm? | |
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kudos:4 | Re: uninterested All I'm getting is the feeling that sarcasm tags would be a good idea . . .
No sarcasm here. | |
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join:2009-11-23 | Wrong. I don't see current AppleTVs flying off the shelves by the millions. If they make a good product it sells well. If they don't, it doesn't. | |
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| | | Am looking forward to Hulu $10/month all you can eat with 720p and all episodes - hope they add 5.1 soon. Have been using Hulu desktop on HTPC and am really impressed with it. Lots more educational content than I realized too. Just search a topic (like solar system) via PC browser and add it to your queue for HTPC viewing. The minimal ads is a pretty fair tradeoff.
Between Hulu/Netflix/Playon via HTPC and PS3, have already said bye bye to cable. The Apple model to *buy* one offs from iTunes is a ripoff but will succeed with their Followers and Apple will continue to make billions from it. They have a large enough congregation to sustain that model for a pretty long time. | |
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| | | | Re: uninterested The hulu implementation is so blah, why pay $10 a month for something you can get over the air for free. Plus they still have ads in all the shows. If the shows were commercial free I would gladly pay the $10 month but with commercials I cant fast forward I think I will pass. I will stick with a nice hd antenna and lifetime tivo sub before getting any of this junk. | |
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The hulu implementation is so blah, why pay $10 a month for something you can get over the air for free. Plus they still have ads in all the shows. If the shows were commercial free I would gladly pay the $10 month but with commercials I cant fast forward I think I will pass. I will stick with a nice hd antenna and lifetime tivo sub before getting any of this junk.
You need to look into Hulu further as they have a LOT of content not available OTA. SyFy, History Channel, Discovery, G4, a bunch of other cable content. Probably 75% of Hulu stuff I watch is not on network TV. With the pay version, you get entire seasons and older seasons, in 720p. Hulu Desktop works with my remote control on HTPC. Will definitely be worth it to me. I don't mind the short ads. You get longer ads on pay cable. | |
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1 edit | Starting to get serious? Sure, if it were 2002. Yeah right. I guess Cupertino hasn't seen what their competitors are up to. $230 and no DVR, no Netflix, no nothing but iTS and Youtube unless you want to re-encode everything for the rest of your life (and to 720P at that). Even hacked it's too nutless to run Silverlight. To get 1080P video requires even more work and money.
$230? For $260 Buy.com had new PS3s, which run Netflix and obviously can play network media, BRD and duh, games, supports 1080P and is continuously updated. $230 and a good Fry's sale you can toss together a little shitbox HTPC. A few months go I picked up a C2D/MB deal with onboard vid for $80, tossed it in an ugly $30 case/PSU with a 500GB drive for far less than $230 and barely went over even after getting Win7 HP OEM.
Roku HD 720P is what, 1/2 the price or less has Netflix and Amazon built in? WDTV Live supports 1080P streaming of a crap load of codecs and DTS. O!Play does the same save for streaming.
$99-$120 is the real price point for these types of set top devices. When you get into the $200-$300 range you are in a whole other world competing with full featured DVRs, game consoles and even el-cheapo HTPCs.
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kudos:2 | Re: Starting to get serious? Sure, if it were 2002. The rumor is for a revised ATV @ around $99. I doubt we'll see Apple open the ATV much beyond the iTS and syncing/streaming from some sort of iTunes account in Apple's ecosystem (I refuse to use the word 'cloud'). | |
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join:2009-11-23 | Re: Starting to get serious? Sure, if it were 2002. I find $99 hard to believe. AppleCare for it might me $99 LOL. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Starting to get serious? Sure, if it were 2002. What's so hard to believe about $99 if Apple strips out the HDD, runs iOS4, and enhances the iTunes interface to the TV? It allows Apple to continue pushing its app store, along with iTunes content, and now iAds. Seems like a logical step, at decent entry point, to grow the Apple ecosystem. Apple used to be all about building software to sell its hardware. I believe that's changing to providing hardware to sell software and media content. | |
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| Re: Starting to get serious? Sure, if it were 2002. iOS without the touch interface is blah. Even if it does something "really" cool like run iOS4 games, without the touch based input device to support it, certainly not included for the $99 it still isn't very compelling, particularly with the high prices of iTS video content.
I don't see this going anywhere. ATV will stay a hobby it appears.
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kudos:2 | Re: Starting to get serious? Sure, if it were 2002. said by Z80A:iOS without the touch interface is blah. Possibly, but I wouldn't underestimate Apple and its designers in coming up with something usable.said by Z80A:without the touch based input device to support it, certainly not included Not included, but that's what iPhones and iPod Touches are for or the new 3x3 cm touchscreen.said by Z80A:for the $99 it still isn't very compelling, particularly with the high prices of iTS video content. Apple is selling the high priced iTS content now, so why would sales not grow with a price decrease?said by Z80A:ATV will stay a hobby it appears. Agreed, unless Apple surprises with a Hulu-like subscription tier. | |
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join:2009-11-23 | Re: Starting to get serious? Sure, if it were 2002. I don't share your faith in Apple to drop content prices to compelling levels. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Starting to get serious? Sure, if it were 2002. Compelling for you maybe. Apple is already selling content. | |
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Hilliard, OH | How do you know so much about the new, unreleased appletv already? Or are you just popping off about something that's 3 years old? | |
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| | 98 cents too expensive especially seeing how they wont allow you to keep the show for archiving and watching later
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kudos:2 | Re: 98 cents too expensive said by chronoss2009:especially seeing how they wont allow you to keep the show for archiving and watching later That's what a rental is | |
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| | Not worth 99Cents Is it just me, or is $0.99 Cents to much for most 30 minute TV shows... | |
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| Re: Not worth 99Cents Apple's offering will depend on what shows are available and WHEN.
If the LOST series finale would be available at most 1 hour after the OTA airing on ABC, then the service would be worth it. But if it takes weeks before it is available, then it is not worth it.
The ability to eliminate cable/satellite service is still in its infancy. But it will happen. And Apple probably wants to keep its toe in the door for when this starts to pick up.
If you don't watch much TV, then services such as AppleTV may end up being significantly cheaper than cable/satellite. | |
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