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Good luck with that, champ.
12:43PM Thursday Feb 28 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: competition · business · wireless · legislation
A new draft bill (pdf) by Representative Edward J. Markey would do two things we think broadband-connected readers will find interesting. One, it again tries to pass a federal law that allows local towns and cities to run their own broadband if they aren't served by a carrier -- something that's been essentially been made illegal by incumbent ISPs who've lobbied hard for state-level bans on municipal broadband in more than a dozen states.

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However, the Wireless Consumer Protection and Community Broadband Empowerment Act primarily takes aim at the wireless industry. It would require carriers to be very clear in their pricing, provide detailed maps of their coverage areas, allow customers to cancel without penalty in the first thirty days, and requires they allow customers to buy unsubsidized handsets and devices that don't lock them into long-term contracts.

Markey's website says that he's still looking for input on the bill. We've seen several attempts now to get bills passed that protect a community's right to run its own broadband, though they never seem to survive long. Some of the wireless improvements Markey is pushing (like allowing users to make plan changes without contract extensions) carriers are starting to implement voluntarily in order to prevent tough regulation and Attorney General lawsuits.

It's great is to see someone finally tackle wireless "unfees" (though the broadband sector also engages in the practice). Burying rate hikes in bogus-sounding fees is a form of false advertising that both State and Federal lawmakers have been perfectly willing to ignore.

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Noah Vail
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At first glance....

This sounds like something I'd get behind.

What am I missing here that would not serve the consumer well?

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Re: At first glance....

What am I missing here that would not serve the consumer well?

the fact that its coming out of Washington DC!
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Re: At first glance....

said by S_engineer See Profile :

What am I missing here that would not serve the consumer well?

the fact that its coming out of Washington DC!
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Que the Corporate Defenders....

Wait for it.... Wait for it....

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interesting ...

but probably won't pass

MrMoody
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Re: interesting ...

Yeh, good luck with that.

kyler13
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Don't look now...

but the lobbyists are scrambling to quickly torpedo this bill. How can it withstand the joint efforts of the giants that typically suck up resources battling each other? The consumer will lose to big business (again).

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Like it

Seems to be a pretty reasonable Bill at least IMHO. Given that, there is no doubt that it will be killed long before it even gets a chance to be voted on. The power players in the Wireless Industry will never let this Bill see the light of day sadly.

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February 28th, @01:22PM

Consumers Need a Voice Too

Isn't there a lobby group that will oppose the industry and act on the interest of consumers? That's what we really need. Hey, who knows. Maybe a consumer interest group can pay the homeless to stumble in on the hearings so the companies with deep pockets will have to stand outside. They can applaud every time a consumer gets up to speak. (wishful thinking)
Mr Matt

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Don't hold your breath

The telecommunications industry pay off or is it lobby our legislators for favorable treatment. I would not expect to see such a bill make it through both houses and not be vetoed by our president. I am sure that there are enough other legislators that have received kick backs or is it campaign contributions from the telecommunications industry to kill such a bill. It appears that big business interests always takes precedence over citizens rights. Remember that the telecommunications industry has the best government money can buy.

MisterMarcus

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I'm admittedly confused...

T-mobile already does everything this bill purports to enforce, especially the part about unsub handsets without a contract. They'll sell them to you - just know you'll get ripped off a pretty penny, but that's why it's called MSRP vs. Retail pricing.

My bill is clear enough, coverage maps are detailed enough, and I (being in California, mind) can cancel within 30 days if I'm not satisfied. Maybe all of that is just a California thing.

If your carrier doesn't do these things, why not go to one that does?

n2jtx

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Nice, But...

...it ain't gonna happen with the current regime in Washington. Even if it does pass, I would not expect the FCC to rush to create rules. Heck, even the EPA has been dragging its feet to produce rules it was compelled to under the Clean Air Act because it disagrees with the law.
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AZ_OGM

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Moving handsets between carriers

I'd like to see them also put in a clause to allow you the freedom to transfer handsets between carriers. Although I heard a rumor that Verizon is planning on doing this. But if something like this were to happen, how many iPhone owners would stay with Death Star mobile?

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Re: Moving handsets between carriers

said by AZ_OGM See Profile :

I'd like to see them also put in a clause to allow you the freedom to transfer handsets between carriers. Although I heard a rumor that Verizon is planning on doing this. But if something like this were to happen, how many iPhone owners would stay with Death Star mobile?
Their only other choice in that case would be T-Mobile since they are the only other nationwide supporter of GSM in the United States. Verizon and Sprint are compatible with each other but they are more difficult to work with because they do not use SIM/R-UIM cards.
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Re: Moving handsets between carriers

As far as I know you can not take a CDMA phone from Verizon to Sprint or vice versa- something about serial numbers, which could be remedied if the CDMA carriers used RUIM more...

Though it'd be kind of pointless to introduce it now, when 99.999% of CDMA US phones can't use the cards, and Verizon is going to upgrade to LTE, which will probably use SIM-like card as it's from the GSM standards committee, though I guess RUIM usage would still good thing for consumers anyway, even so late in the game...

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Re: Moving handsets between carriers

said by EPS See Profile :

Verizon is going to upgrade to LTE, which will probably use SIM-like card as it's from the GSM standards committee
Of course knowing how Verizon likes to keep 110% control over their users I would not be surprised that should future LTE handsets incorporate a SIM card Verizon would probably figure out a way to permanently fuse it to their handsets.
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justDave

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You used to be able to activate Sprint phones on Verizon, assuming they were compatible and you knew how to program them. They stopped it about 2 years ago.

It's not a technical problem. It's just the way VZ likes to do business.
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said by n2jtx See Profile :

said by AZ_OGM See Profile :

I'd like to see them also put in a clause to allow you the freedom to transfer handsets between carriers. Although I heard a rumor that Verizon is planning on doing this. But if something like this were to happen, how many iPhone owners would stay with Death Star mobile?
Their only other choice in that case would be T-Mobile since they are the only other nationwide supporter of GSM in the United States. Verizon and Sprint are compatible with each other but they are more difficult to work with because they do not use SIM/R-UIM cards.
Yep, who are you going to run to Mr iPhone user? Urban areas only Tmobile? Alltel went roaming only GSM, and the rest of the GSM carriers have been bought by one of the nationals. Suncom=Tmobile, Dobson=ATT, Unicel=Verizon(Switch to CDMA),EDGE Wireless=ATT.
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said by ]and requires they allow customers to buy unsubsidized handsets and devices[/BQUOTE :

All sounds great. Good luck.

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Congrats to Rep. Markey...

It's nice to know that someone in our government is working "for the people" though I doubt this will survive Congress intact (if at all). How about extending this to ISP's, TV and phone services? I don't know about you but I've had all of the "Regulatory recovery fees" I can stand. It would be nice if you could call a company and they would give you the exact quote for service including fees.

It's a nice step, but there will always be idiots. Sitting at the sales counter at the Verizon store while the sales agent is reading you the fine print is not the best time to discover your phone's MP3 player (though I counted 2 seperate people doing just that last weekend while buying a new handset).

dvd536
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Oxymoron

Now thats an oxymoron if i ever heard one.
"Honest wireless company"
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA What a joke!
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February 29th, @10:55AM

Sad thing is...

If more carriers (cell companies) did what Cincinnati Bell does (which is exactly what the legislation aims to do - only exception is the handsets) then people would beat a path to the door. The ONLY reason I left Cincy Bell was poor coverage where my wife works. Verizon had better coverage (although far from perfect - my SIL had an issue in a nearby large town and her apartment).

Coverage could have gotten a lot better in the intervening years but with In Calling and now my IL's added to our service I am not willing to move. I am out of contract and refuse to buy a new phone to be put back into a contract.

Cincy Bell has ZERO contracts, they do not change the price of your plan UNLESS you drop the plan and then re-add it after the increase, and they do not force you change plans if the plan is dropped for new customers. I loved Cincy Bell when I had them - phone prices were better than Verizon and customer service was good - although we have zero complaints about Verizon customer service at our local Verizon store.

I have not looked at all the carriers but I know I have had zero issues finding maps of service area - all of the ones I have looked at were clear and online and in the store - large maps on a wall.
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Asmodeus1

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let's do this...

i say make it happen. Right now as a matter of fact. this is definitely a bill i would get behind. also, as long as the legislation is free of any pork, earmarks, riders, amendments and any other such nonsense, i'd help push it.
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