  Noah Vail Serial Thread Killer Premium join:2004-12-10 Lorton, VA | At first glance.... This sounds like something I'd get behind.
What am I missing here that would not serve the consumer well?
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join:2007-05-16 Chicago, IL | Re: At first glance.... What am I missing here that would not serve the consumer well?
the fact that its coming out of Washington DC! -- "There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion."....Winston Churchill
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| Re: At first glance.... said by S_engineer :What am I missing here that would not serve the consumer well? the fact that its coming out of Washington DC! Ding Ding Ding -- Team Discovery-Join the fight | |
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 |   KrK Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Que the Corporate Defenders....
Wait for it.... Wait for it.... | |
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  ftthz If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | interesting ... but probably won't pass | |
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join:2002-09-03 Smithfield, NC | Re: interesting ... Yeh, good luck with that.  | |
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 deadzoned Premium join:2005-04-13 Baton Rouge, LA
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| Like it Seems to be a pretty reasonable Bill at least IMHO. Given that, there is no doubt that it will be killed long before it even gets a chance to be voted on. The power players in the Wireless Industry will never let this Bill see the light of day sadly. | |
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join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL
·Comcast
| Don't hold your breath The telecommunications industry pay off or is it lobby our legislators for favorable treatment. I would not expect to see such a bill make it through both houses and not be vetoed by our president. I am sure that there are enough other legislators that have received kick backs or is it campaign contributions from the telecommunications industry to kill such a bill. It appears that big business interests always takes precedence over citizens rights. Remember that the telecommunications industry has the best government money can buy. | |
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join:2001-11-10 San Diego, CA
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| I'm admittedly confused... T-mobile already does everything this bill purports to enforce, especially the part about unsub handsets without a contract. They'll sell them to you - just know you'll get ripped off a pretty penny, but that's why it's called MSRP vs. Retail pricing.
My bill is clear enough, coverage maps are detailed enough, and I (being in California, mind) can cancel within 30 days if I'm not satisfied. Maybe all of that is just a California thing.
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  n2jtx
join:2001-01-13 Glen Head, NY
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| Nice, But... ...it ain't gonna happen with the current regime in Washington. Even if it does pass, I would not expect the FCC to rush to create rules. Heck, even the EPA has been dragging its feet to produce rules it was compelled to under the Clean Air Act because it disagrees with the law. -- I support the right to keep and arm bears. | |
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join:2007-01-12 Phoenix, AZ
| Moving handsets between carriers I'd like to see them also put in a clause to allow you the freedom to transfer handsets between carriers. Although I heard a rumor that Verizon is planning on doing this. But if something like this were to happen, how many iPhone owners would stay with Death Star mobile? | |
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| Re: Moving handsets between carriers said by AZ_OGM :I'd like to see them also put in a clause to allow you the freedom to transfer handsets between carriers. Although I heard a rumor that Verizon is planning on doing this. But if something like this were to happen, how many iPhone owners would stay with Death Star mobile? Their only other choice in that case would be T-Mobile since they are the only other nationwide supporter of GSM in the United States. Verizon and Sprint are compatible with each other but they are more difficult to work with because they do not use SIM/R-UIM cards. -- I support the right to keep and arm bears. | |
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join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA
| Re: Moving handsets between carriers As far as I know you can not take a CDMA phone from Verizon to Sprint or vice versa- something about serial numbers, which could be remedied if the CDMA carriers used RUIM more...
Though it'd be kind of pointless to introduce it now, when 99.999% of CDMA US phones can't use the cards, and Verizon is going to upgrade to LTE, which will probably use SIM-like card as it's from the GSM standards committee, though I guess RUIM usage would still good thing for consumers anyway, even so late in the game... | |
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join:2001-01-13 Glen Head, NY
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| Re: Moving handsets between carriers said by EPS :Verizon is going to upgrade to LTE, which will probably use SIM-like card as it's from the GSM standards committee Of course knowing how Verizon likes to keep 110% control over their users I would not be surprised that should future LTE handsets incorporate a SIM card Verizon would probably figure out a way to permanently fuse it to their handsets. -- I support the right to keep and arm bears. | |
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join:2000-02-29 Brooklyn, NY | You used to be able to activate Sprint phones on Verizon, assuming they were compatible and you knew how to program them. They stopped it about 2 years ago.
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY
| said by n2jtx :said by AZ_OGM :I'd like to see them also put in a clause to allow you the freedom to transfer handsets between carriers. Although I heard a rumor that Verizon is planning on doing this. But if something like this were to happen, how many iPhone owners would stay with Death Star mobile? Their only other choice in that case would be T-Mobile since they are the only other nationwide supporter of GSM in the United States. Verizon and Sprint are compatible with each other but they are more difficult to work with because they do not use SIM/R-UIM cards. Yep, who are you going to run to Mr iPhone user? Urban areas only Tmobile? Alltel went roaming only GSM, and the rest of the GSM carriers have been bought by one of the nationals. Suncom=Tmobile, Dobson=ATT, Unicel=Verizon(Switch to CDMA),EDGE Wireless=ATT. | |
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join:2004-10-12 Allentown, PA | said by ]and requires they allow customers to buy unsubsidized handsets and devices[/BQUOTE :
All sounds great. Good luck. | |
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| Congrats to Rep. Markey... It's nice to know that someone in our government is working "for the people" though I doubt this will survive Congress intact (if at all). How about extending this to ISP's, TV and phone services? I don't know about you but I've had all of the "Regulatory recovery fees" I can stand. It would be nice if you could call a company and they would give you the exact quote for service including fees.
It's a nice step, but there will always be idiots. Sitting at the sales counter at the Verizon store while the sales agent is reading you the fine print is not the best time to discover your phone's MP3 player (though I counted 2 seperate people doing just that last weekend while buying a new handset). | |
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  dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ | Oxymoron Now thats an oxymoron if i ever heard one. "Honest wireless company" HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA What a joke! -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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  CylonRed Premium,MVM join:2000-07-06 Bloom County
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| Sad thing is... If more carriers (cell companies) did what Cincinnati Bell does (which is exactly what the legislation aims to do - only exception is the handsets) then people would beat a path to the door. The ONLY reason I left Cincy Bell was poor coverage where my wife works. Verizon had better coverage (although far from perfect - my SIL had an issue in a nearby large town and her apartment).
Coverage could have gotten a lot better in the intervening years but with In Calling and now my IL's added to our service I am not willing to move. I am out of contract and refuse to buy a new phone to be put back into a contract.
Cincy Bell has ZERO contracts, they do not change the price of your plan UNLESS you drop the plan and then re-add it after the increase, and they do not force you change plans if the plan is dropped for new customers. I loved Cincy Bell when I had them - phone prices were better than Verizon and customer service was good - although we have zero complaints about Verizon customer service at our local Verizon store.
I have not looked at all the carriers but I know I have had zero issues finding maps of service area - all of the ones I have looked at were clear and online and in the store - large maps on a wall. -- Brian
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join:2004-05-26 Spring Valley, CA | let's do this... i say make it happen. Right now as a matter of fact. this is definitely a bill i would get behind. also, as long as the legislation is free of any pork, earmarks, riders, amendments and any other such nonsense, i'd help push it. | |
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