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Long Beach, NY | Verizon EVDO Card I recently purchased several Dell laptops for a client, and they all included free Verizon EVDO cards. It was part of the RED series of laptops. So I wouldn't be too sure to say AT&T will be the carrier of choice. | |
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LiamJunket
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join:2002-03-03
Ocean City, NJ
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| Re: Verizon EVDO Card said by ExecPro  :I recently purchased several Dell laptops for a client, and they all included free Verizon EVDO cards. It was part of the RED series of laptops. So I wouldn't be too sure to say AT&T will be the carrier of choice. And a built-in chip has the problem of obsolescence and inability to work with other standards than the one built-in. Just put a PC Card slot and/or a USB port in there and plug-in whatever cell providers card you want. Why lock yourself in to one std with new 3G/4G stds coming online all the time. And with Wimax, LTE, etc soon to rollout it would be better to maintain flexibility.
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: Verizon EVDO Card I think the biggest reason to have an integrated card is if this gets sold subsidized by cell operators with 3G service, as Dell is talking about doing- in that case cellular operators wouldn't want you to have flexibility. | |
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en102
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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| Re: Verizon EVDO Card I suspect that the chips were relatively cheap, and since UMTS is a bit more of a 'global' standard than EVDO, it is being promoted. At one time, the same statements went for WiFi. I do suspect that it is being subsidized by the wireless industry in general though.
Laptops typically have a life of ~ 3 years... not that much different than that of a cell phone.
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Matt
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| said by LiamJunket :said by ExecPro :I recently purchased several Dell laptops for a client, and they all included free Verizon EVDO cards. It was part of the RED series of laptops. So I wouldn't be too sure to say AT&T will be the carrier of choice. And a built-in chip has the problem of obsolescence and inability to work with other standards than the one built-in. Just put a PC Card slot and/or a USB port in there and plug-in whatever cell providers card you want. Why lock yourself in to one std with new 3G/4G stds coming online all the time. And with Wimax, LTE, etc soon to rollout it would be better to maintain flexibility. They are just Mini-PCI cards. All you do is pop a cover off on the bottom of the laptop and install a new one. Same as adding memory to a laptop.
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | watch this market fall 3G has horrible latency problems and slow speeds. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: watch this market fall This is a "netbook", so you're probably not using it for online gaming or any latency-dependent activity to begin with, and slow speeds will be blamed on the fact that it's a $300 computer to begin with... | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Fredericksburg, TX | Huh? 150ms latency isn't that bad, ad 1.2 Mbit down and 300-500k up pretty much anywhere is really nice to have. SImply put, 3G > no 3G. | |
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MrMaster
What If
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| Re: watch this market fall said by iansltx :Huh? 150ms latency isn't that bad, ad 1.2 Mbit down and 300-500k up pretty much anywhere is really nice to have. SImply put, 3G > no 3G. Hell yes!
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sapo
The Internet is Down
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Sacramento, CA
| said by brianiscool :3G has horrible latency problems and slow speeds. Please provide basis for this claim. | |
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tekmunki
Tekmunki
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join:2001-12-06
Lake City, FL
clubs:  | Re: watch this market fall buying a new laptop, you have a selection of at&t, sprint, or verizon cards- if they integrate it, I would expect they would run with multiple providers and allow different chipsets at assembly so not to alienate customers. | |
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join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | I've used AT&T 3G and it is horrible. I highly suggest just looking for Wi-fi hot spots then wasting $40 - $60 a month. | |
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brianisstupid
@optonline.net
| said by brianiscool :3G has horrible latency problems and slow speeds. 3.5g is deployed in the big cities nowadays
Speed has never been a problem with 3g
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tekmunki
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1 edit | Re: watch this market fall said by brianisstupid :said by brianiscool :3G has horrible latency problems and slow speeds. 3.5g is deployed in the big cities nowadays Speed has never been a problem with 3g You do not have a clue on what you are talking about. no kidding, It's practically the exact same technology as evdo. | |
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | My AT&T USB aircard gives me about 100-150ms latency and up to 1.8Mb down. | |
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JRKy
Woops
join:2002-04-13
Colorado Springs, CO | You're jealous. BTW, I can play most RTS/RPG games on the road without issue. FPS - not so much.
*posted from my tethered 3G device*
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join:2003-03-12
Rensselaer, IN | So you're telling me the 1.2 Mb/s down, 500 k up, with around 100 - 120 ms latency to google via EVDO is horrible and slow? | |
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LiamJunket
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join:2002-03-03
Ocean City, NJ
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1 edit |  Dell already did deal with Vodaphone for 3G integrated chip
Dell's new netbook, the Inspiron Mini 9, will be sold with built-in mobile broadband by Vodafone, the companies announced on Thursday.
The mobile broadband connection in the Vodafone version supports HSPA (High-Speed Packet Access).
Vodafone will start selling the Mini 9 later this month, but has not yet said in which countries it will offer the netbook. For now its "in key European markets", the operator said. So, it does look like Dell has done at least 1 deal already. Here is their press release: »www.vodafone.com/start/media_rel···one.html
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jtudor
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join:2002-12-07
Morganton, NC
| Choice is nice! FWIW,
On it's larger laptops, Dell offers a choice of integrated EVDO / 3G cards. You can choose from Verizon, Sprint, Vodafone, Telus and AT&T.
I hope they never go the route of forcing you onto only one carrier.
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL | For $399 you find laptops with a better cpu then the Atom a For $399 you find laptops with a better cpu then the Atom and maybe even 1gb of base ram with a bigger disk then 4gb. | |
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Quitting Caffeine - Argh
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| Re: For $399 you find laptops with a better cpu then the Atom a said by Joe12345678 :For $399 you find laptops with a better cpu then the Atom and maybe even 1gb of base ram with a bigger disk then 4gb. Where? And do they have solid state disks? What is their size/weight?
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wifi4milez
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join:2004-08-07
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| said by Joe12345678 :For $399 you find laptops with a better cpu then the Atom and maybe even 1gb of base ram with a bigger disk then 4gb. I doubt that, unless its a 2 or 3 year old refurb model that weights 8 pounds. For what its worth, I just went to Dells website and configured a mini (for kicks) with all the options (bluetooth, 1.3mp camera, 16GB SSD, XP) and the total came out to $474. Thats more than $100 ($125 to be exact) less than an Asus Eee PC 901, and it has a much larger HD. I think I am going to be picking one of these up in the next few weeks because they are a really good deal at the current price.
** I should note that my price included a Dell "$55 instant savings" whatever that means. However, I didnt have to put in any codes it just happened automatically.
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| Weak as water The best Dell can do is glom onto iFone 3G hype and that old guy standing in front of the beached plane with a thinkpad and a useless card hanging out of the slot
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Weak as water What makes you think this is connected to the iPhone? I mean, there's been a trend of PC manufacturers coming out with these "netbook" things essentially since Asus created the Eee PC. Things like the Acer Aspire, the HP Mini-Note, etc... This is just the first one to get mentioned on BBR, since it's vaguely broadband-related I guess. | |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
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| Re: Weak as water said by EPS :What makes you think this is connected to the iPhone? Just being snarky 
I meant the built-in access card and possible bundling to a service provider as is AT&T/iPhone. The HW company sells its product cheaper while being subsidized by the carrier costs.
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Weak as water Well that's just been the normal cellphone business model for years... initially Apple was trying to challenge that model by selling the iPhone 2G (or 1G? confusing terminology -_-) unsubsidized, after all...
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
| Dear Dell.... If its NOT EVDO, make it optional. Thanks, but no thanks on GSM and ATT.
Also where is the RED ONE?????????
Doesn't seem to be an option on any of the ordering pages!???
Black or White????? NO....
I want RED and I want Linux.....My $500 is waiting.....
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New Dell Netbook Has Integrated 3G