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kudos:4 |  Looks like Sprint still lowest cost of major carriers
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kudos:1 | Re: Looks like Sprint still lowest cost of major carriers  How many milliseconds will it take for Sprint and the other wireless carriers to adopt the same pricing models? | |
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| |  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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| Re: Looks like Sprint still lowest cost of major carriers said by Mr Matt: How many milliseconds will it take for Sprint and the other wireless carriers to adopt the same pricing models? What time did TK post? 
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|  GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium
join:2001-09-30
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kudos:8 | Actually it looks like T-Mobile is the cheapest.
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1 edit | Re: Looks like Sprint still lowest cost of major carriers said by Gbcue:Actually it looks like T-Mobile is the cheapest. Not for me. The 450 min smartphone plan is $10/mo cheaper and the any-to-any wireless calling uses almost none of the 450 mins/mo.
And most users can use Sprint's cheaper 450 min plans instead of higher plans because of the more expansive any-to-any feature. | |
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join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:8 | Re: Looks like Sprint still lowest cost of major carriers It says $59.99 for T-Mobile. | |
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join:2000-03-21
Naperville, IL
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| Re: Looks like Sprint still lowest cost of major carriers Tmobile no contract = pay unsubsidize price on your new phone, so unless you go 2nd hand or can buy the phone new and the unsubsidize price is less than the regular contract subsidize price + $240 ($10/month * 24 months). then tmobile is cheaper, but otherwise sprint is cheaper. Of course sprints 3G coverage is WAY WAY better than Tmobile.
not to mention the sprint $69.99 plan have Anymobile anytime, which is more or less unlimited calling since you only use the 450min bucket for landlines. | |
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|  andunn
join:2001-09-06
Linn Creek, MO | Re: Sux! Parasites are bleeding consumers dry. I would love to see a chart on how for some people these new plans are a rip off.
Okay I pay $119.99 a month for 2 lines on the Connect 700 Familly plan which includes unlimited data, unlimited text, picture, video, mobile email,.....
This new plan would be:
$99.99 for the 700 talk & Text family plan - 2 lines
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$29.99 unlimited data per line
Am I missing something here? It seems to be more expensive.
This does not apply to me now, but when I go to get a new phone and want the discount pricing for a 2 year contract I'm assuming I would need to sign up for a new plan? | |
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|  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
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| said by Mr Matt:  My original Verizon family plan costs $79.95 plus crap charges and taxes if I do not use WAP, unless I am charged the $1.99 fraudulent data charge mysteriously appearing on many subscribers bills. If I change to one of the new plans, I would have to pay an additional $9.99 each for my VX-8300 or each new VX-8360 if I replace the VX-8300's, even if I do not use the WAP function on the handset. That would increase the price of my plan to $99.93 including the original crap charges and the additional crap charges for the $19.98 fee. As usual the wireless carriers are sticking it to consumers. I wonder why the Justice Department does not investigate why these changes in pricing were made by the two predominant wireless carriers within a few days of one another. Collusion anyone. Don't expect any help from lawmakers, they probably just got a free green palm grease job from the wireless industry so that they will turn their backs. SUX! You keep referring to "The Wireless Carriers", yet TMO and Sprint's pricing is quite different (and cheaper) than VZW and ATT.
Don't want the forced fees? Put your money where your mouth is and switch to Sprint or TMO.
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | said by Mr Matt: My original Verizon family plan costs $79.95 plus crap charges and taxes if I do not use WAP, unless I am charged the $1.99 fraudulent data charge mysteriously appearing on many subscribers bills. If I change to one of the new plans, I would have to pay an additional $9.99 each for my VX-8300 or each new VX-8360 if I replace the VX-8300's, even if I do not use the WAP function on the handset. That would increase the price of my plan to $99.93 including the original crap charges and the additional crap charges for the $19.98 fee. Keep your current plan. Your hand isn't being forced said by Mr Matt:I wonder why the Justice Department does not investigate why these changes in pricing were made by the two predominant wireless carriers within a few days of one another. Collusion anyone. Competition anyone? VZ started a price war confrontation and T matched the price. This is good for consumers and bad for shareholders. I'm surprised all of the pro-consumer believers on this site aren't dancing in the streets. | |
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join:2006-09-29
Hamden, CT | Re: Sux! Parasites are bleeding consumers dry. VZ and T only lowered the cost of the most expensive plan, which few consumers were on. They effectively raised the price of all other plans with the added data fee. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Sux! Parasites are bleeding consumers dry. said by ct_mike:VZ and T only lowered the cost of the most expensive plan, which few consumers were on. This is the beginning. I think we'll see more. I think VZ is after T and this was just the latest volley.said by ct_mike:They effectively raised the price of all other plans with the added data fee. Only if change plans or you want a pseudo-smartphone. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Sux! Parasites are bleeding consumers dry. I thought about that. I think it's more, "hey, look at us, we're ready for you Apple if you want to dump AT&T". | |
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| | Pricing Plans And they haven't lowered their data card pricing plans or raised those putrid low data caps. $40/250 Meg vs $60/5 Gig is horrible value for dollar ratio. But total windfall for investor dividends and CEO retirement portfolios. Makes me sick. Just read this morning that Taiwan is putting out WiMax 4G unlimited for $21.68 a month equivalent. Even Sprint's 3G/5 Gig/4G unl @ $60/mo pales in comparison. | |
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|  bubi73
join:2004-02-03
Mundelein, IL | Re: Pricing Plans ...and how much area/people/density does the country of Taiwan have to cover with WiMax 4G? It's not really the technology that drives the price up is the overall coverage they are trying to provide.
All the above plans are ridiculous compared to my old SERO plan!
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join:2001-03-09
Hillsborough, NJ Reviews:
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| AT&T and Verizon are driving customers away It seems clear that AT&T and Verizon are not interested in retaining the low usage customer or the customer that just wants a cool phone for voice. This is good news for other carriers, such as Sprint and T-mobile as well as the MVNOs. The only advantage of AT&T and Verizon is coverage and that is also debatable when once considers the alternate carriers improved coverage. As a long time Verizon subscriber under contract with a lower priced plan, I will stay with them until my phone needs replacement. After that, my business goes to the best value provider. | |
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| Re: AT&T and Verizon are driving customers away This is why you shouldnt get contracts. They lock you in and allow the carrier to rape you on the way out.
That isnt even to mention the fact that having the hardware subsidized is almost certainly a bad idea also. Sure you have to mortgage your house and they make some good profit off you... but you shouldnt essentially put yourself on credit for 500$ or less; then have your situation be shitty for years to come; because of contract lockin. | |
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| Um... Doesn't look too significant (damn, NoScript is looping when I visit direct to billshrink.com...WTF!).
So, If I buy a phone, then no contractual plan, I can save? Unless I keep the phone for more than 2 years, then yes. But since most folks replace phones after two (whether battery dies-loses charge-new tech/features) then buying a phone and no plan doesn't make $ense. But if you can own the phone longer, get a new battery before it dies (ever try to find a battery/accessory for a phone after three years? pricey...).
Anyway, I just wish the phone makers would make a phone that would justify not getting a contract. But then the phone-co wouldn't profit from it now would they
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join:2001-09-30
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kudos:8 Reviews:
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| Re: Um... said by cableties:So, If I buy a phone, then no contractual plan, I can save? Unless I keep the phone for more than 2 years, then yes. Or purchase a phone off eBay.
With T-Mobile's plans, you do save without contract.
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5
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| 10m is a distortion of the truth Technically there may be 10m combination. But that's distorting the complexity a little.
I had a similarly complex decision today at lunch. I could have gone to McDonalds, Burger King, or Wendys, Rally's/Checkers, or Hardees. At each I could have gotten a single, double or triple burger, or a grilled or crispy chicken sandwich. On that sandwich I could get ketchup, mustard, mayo, pickles, onions, lettuce, tomato, and cheese. For a side I could get 3 different sizes of fries (each with or without salt) or some type of a "healthy" option. For drink I could get 3 different sizes of no less then 8 different types of fountain drinks. I also thought about getting a milkshake (3 different varieties of 3 different flavors) and maybe an additional side or desert (each had at least 3 other menu items).
OMG I had nearly 1 million options for lunch!!! And that's not even considering any of their other sandwiches those places serve. If I didn't want a burger I could have gone to subway and over 25 million possible combinations for a meal. How is a person ever suppose to be able to order their lunch with so many different combinations? | |
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| Re: 10m is a distortion of the truth Um. Ya you did have that many possible combinations.
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How is a person ever suppose to be able to order their lunch with so many different combinations?
Well you first decide where you want to eat. That cuts it down alot. Then you choose what you want to eat. Yes both of those steps are difficult for some people.
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| | cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
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kudos:5 Reviews:
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| Re: 10m is a distortion of the truth said by munky99999:Well you first decide where you want to eat. That cuts it down alot. Then you choose what you want to eat. Yes both of those steps are difficult for some people. I fail to see where there was distortion. So in other words, choosing where you want to eat is kind of like choosing a cell phone carrier. And choosing what menu item is like choosing a plan. And choosing what you want on your food or if you want a combo meal is like choosing the what options you want for your plan, or if there is a bundle.
My point was that 10m sounds like a huge number of combinations, but with just a few simple drill downs like what carrier do I want to go with, how many minutes will I use, do I text, do I need data, and do I need a family plan, it greatly reduces the number of combinations down to just a few. | |
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | I Wonder. . . . . how much of that verizon $15.8B came $1.99 at a time! | |
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