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New Jersey Lets Verizon Off the Hook on Broadband Obligations
by Karl Bode 09:21AM Thursday Apr 24 2014
As noted recently, some New Jersey locals have been annoyed that Verizon failed to adhere to a 1993 requirement that provided the company with subsidies and tax cuts in exchange for a promise to wire all of the state with 45 Mbps fixed-line broadband by 2010. Worse, Verizon was then caught sending bogus public support letters to the state Board of Public Utilities, supporting a provision that lets Verizon off the hook for the failed promise.

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Surely Verizon was held accountable for taking taxpayer money, failing to follow through on documented promises, then essentially engaging in fraud to get itself off the hook, right?

Not so much.

According to the Bergen Record, state regulators have voted unanimously to approve a settlement with Verizon that lets Verizon proclaim that capped, expensive LTE service is "good enough," meaning New Jersey residents will never see the fixed-line broadband investment they paid for years ago:
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Under the settlement, Verizon does not have to provide broadband to customers who already have such service from cable TV providers or who have access to 4G service. The settlement also sets up a process in which customers in census tracts with no broadband can request such service from Verizon, if there are 35 or more of them, and each signs a contract for at least one year of service with a $100 deposit.
Verizon did something similar in Pennsylvania, promising the state full 45 Mbps broadband coverage after taking billions in subsidies and tax cuts, then simply being pardoned when they failed to follow through. Again, this kind of cozy relationship between timid regulators and industry is precisely why the United States continues to be the poster child for mediocrity when it comes to most global broadband rankings.

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Zenit

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Purcellville, VA
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4 recommendations

Fuck

Really, that's all I can say. This is a disaster.

This government is truely in the hip-pocket of the corporations, while we the people continue to get ripped off for every penny.

Once again VZ wins the "Capped 4G LTE is grate" battle. It will never stop, will it!

Well, those of you who don't have FIOS now in NJ, you will NEVER see it. Thank your elected officials for throwing out the 1993 agreement. Cablevision and Comcast will love your wallet for a long time!

Meanwhile here in VA, the only thing that will bring FIOS to my town is the County demanding it by 2015, but even then I doubt it will actually happen and VZ will say "$g is greate.! OR Just use comcast "

(hand rubbing intensifies)

ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2

3 recommendations

Re: Fuck

Fucking bullshit. These regulators and politicians are BEYOND ridiculous.

battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Re: Fuck

Don't blame them. Blame the morons who keep electing these jackasses.

rocco s

@comcast.net

Re: Fuck

The BPU is appointed not elected

FastiBook

join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA
Who do you think ignorant, misinformed populace being fed by misinformation campaigns would elect? The honest candidate, or the one feeding them the lies?
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battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Re: Fuck

Now days it's who we've promises them the path to prosperity via the easy path. Why wouldn't you want to elect Obamaclaus.
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Derpy

@24.104.140.x

1 recommendation

When all the options are corrupted, there is no choice.

aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
said by Zenit:

Really, that's all I can say. This is a disaster.

This government is truely in the hip-pocket of the corporations, while we the people continue to get ripped off for every penny.

Once again VZ wins the "Capped 4G LTE is grate" battle. It will never stop, will it!

Well, those of you who don't have FIOS now in NJ, you will NEVER see it. Thank your elected officials for throwing out the 1993 agreement. Cablevision and Comcast will love your wallet for a long time!

Meanwhile here in VA, the only thing that will bring FIOS to my town is the County demanding it by 2015, but even then I doubt it will actually happen and VZ will say "$g is greate.! OR Just use comcast "

(hand rubbing intensifies)

I'm certainly glad Verizon started wiring up my Northern VA county in 2007(Prince William County) for FiOS. Later this Summer I will have been with FiOS for seven years.

Zenit

join:2012-05-07
Purcellville, VA
kudos:1
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·T-Mobile US
·Verizon Online DSL

Re: Fuck

They started in Loudoun County in 2005, but did a half assed job and ignored the western side of the county entirely, excluding 1-2 subdivisions that were wired recently due to new construction and not enough copper.

I would be surprised if a FIOS deployment actually covers 100% of any VZ wirecenter (area served by a central office). They are known to skip streets without any reason, or whole towns.

Northern VA is lucky, it got a relatively dense FIOS deployment overall, as the rest of VA got barely anything, not counting Richmond or VA Beach. And even then, the deployment is sporadic.


ncsupcc

@rr.com
Corporate thug life at its finest.

yongar

join:2000-12-08
Virginia Beach, VA
it is so true that it is much cheaper for a big company to lobby.

karpodiem
Hail to The Victors
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Detroit, MI

1 recommendation

This behavior won't change

Until someone goes to jail, which will never happen. This is why people (eventually) take to the streets.

Sing it, Eddy -

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUb ··· k5IUbdH0

TAZ

join:2014-01-03
Tucson, AZ
kudos:3

2 recommendations

So how's this work for everyone else?

So can I go rob a Verizon store, get arrested, then have a bunch of my friends send letters to the prosecutor in support of my release (no need to disclose their relation to me, of course!)? Hmm, something tells me that wouldn't turn out very well...

karpodiem
Hail to The Victors
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Detroit, MI

2 recommendations

Woosh

The point is that when you and I do it, we go to jail. When Verizon does it, nothing happens.

"You come to us today on your bicycle, after buying Girl Scout cookies, and helping out mother Teresa, telling us 'we're sorry. We won't do it again,' " Rep. Michael Capuano, D.-Mass., ranted at the stone-faced octet. "Well, I have some people in my constituency that actually robbed some of your banks, and they say the same thing."
MaynardKrebs
Heave Steve, for the good of the country
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Re: Woosh

said by karpodiem:

The point is that when you and I do it, we go to jail. When Verizon does it, nothing happens.

Corporations are people too - according to the USSC and most Rethuglicans.

So, somebody should hire a shyster and figure out the law that lets 'We, the People' (what a quaint notion these days, isn't it?)(tm) take The Board of Public Utilities to court to overturn the decision. Then, once the decision is overturned, Verizon's fat corporate/person ass becomes the target.

Since the case IS in the public interest, 'We, the People' (what a quaint notion these days, isn't it?)(tm) should be able to argue that costs should not be awarded in the event 'We, the People' (yadda yaddayadda) lose.

*'We, the People' (what a quaint notion these days, isn't it?) is a registered trademark of Maynard G. Krebs Enterprises (Panama) Limited. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

IowaCowboy
Iowa native
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Their CEO should be fired

This is called corruption, and if any kickbacks or bribes were involved or if any money was exchanged for the deal then someone should be going to jail.

Maybe it will take a judge to get them to follow through on their obligations. Unfortunately it takes thousands of dollars in legal fees to take on a multimillion dollar corporation.
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CXM_Splicer
Looking at the bigger picture
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Re: Their CEO should be fired

But this is a win for the shareholders, He will probably get a nice bonus out of this.
itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

1 recommendation

Re: Their CEO should be fired

quote:
But this is a win for the shareholders, He will probably get a nice bonus out of this.
As a shareholder this is not a win at all. I'd rather them spend the $$ and have a customer for life (as in, we're the only option in rural areas) rather than nothing.

Rural users want broadband. They don't want limited, expensive junk with caps which is what their wireless offering is. Homefusion is crazy expensive vs FIOS or even cable.

IowaCowboy
Iowa native
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Springfield, MA
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Re: Their CEO should be fired

If the CEO was smart, he could just spin off the wireline division into a new company (FiOS and all).

If it still makes them money they'll keep it. People still keep home phones for various reasons. And then there is the lucrative business market that relies on the wireline division. Most businesses I go in (I would say 99 percent of them) have a landline phone sitting on the desk/counter/wall. And most businesses have fax machines as well.

Even the new Chick-Fil-A that opened in February has a landline phone sitting behind the counter.

Maybe their residential landlines are being cut but businesses have landline phones left and right.
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Kearnstd
Space Elf
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Re: Their CEO should be fired

Actually you have no way to tell if the phone in an overrated chicken joint is POTS or VOIP. I would not be surprised if that place just has a data line coming in and everything goes out over that.
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itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

Re: Their CEO should be fired

quote:
Actually you have no way to tell if the phone in an overrated chicken joint is POTS or VOIP. I would not be surprised if that place just has a data line coming in and everything goes out over that.
And it all has to terminate at the POTS somewhere somehow....

workablob

join:2004-06-09
Houston, TX
kudos:4

4 recommendations

Fascism at its finest

Consolidation of power between the government and corporate America.

Mussolini would be proud.

Blob
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Network Guy
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New York
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·T-Mobile US

New Jersey sucks anyway

What did people from the garden state expect?

In all seriousness...... Big money at work.... Not surprised at all.....

Next stop.... New York City.... Let's see if De Blasio has the balls to tell Verizon to suck a fucking nut and finish it.

battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

That promise is old enough to drink...

Why in the hell did they let this ride for 21 years? I thought my town was corrupt...

FastiBook

join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA

A joke.

And we're the punchline.
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CXM_Splicer
Looking at the bigger picture
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NYC
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Re: A joke.

Only one laughing is Verizon.

rollinraver

join:2002-04-27
Buffalo, NY

Your complaints and anger...

Are best served in your politician's face as opposed to here. If you leave government the same, you always will get the same response.

Probitas

@teksavvy.com

RICO

Mail fraud, if they include email. Collusion to conspire to defraud. Looks like they never had any intention of following through, just wanted a quick buck to pad stock value and have the taxpayer take the hit in the wallet. Rich get richer, poor get poorer.

At what point do people finally take to the streets and demand accountability from their elected officials, and those that appoint the rest?

NJVZCustomer

@verizon.net

NJ customer

wow. but hey guess what as#*oles!? my contract is up in 5 days and guess who is going to get the ax? yes, you verizon. Since you're stealing some of my tax dollars.. i have no choice but to recover them by cutting out some unnecessary services.. like you.

s0m3f00l

join:2014-04-25
USA

Not Shocking at all....

Come on guys..... take it to the State Senators of NJ. Be a force stop laying down and taking it...

»www.njleg.state.nj.us/districts/ ··· bers.asp

mb

join:2000-07-23
Washington, NJ

Bought and Paid For

Our government in NJ was bought and paid for by the private sector years ago...

vote

@122.212.234.x

Verizon Abuse

The best way to fix this is VOTE the politicians out call them out and let them know after the elections WHY THEY no longer have a job.

OTHER way is to write to VERIZON and send them your termination notice. If enough people get involved and let them know they will take notice.

Let the governor and the FTC know about your feelings.

Remember whenever you write to politicans DON'T use profanity or abusive language, be calm, cool and explain your feelings. Anger just means they throw away your letter or never even reaches them.

VOTING -- this is the most important power we have in America (if you are an adult over 18 and registered to vote ).