New MSN VideoHoping to battle AOL, Real Networks ( old news - 10:46AM Tuesday Oct 14 2003) tags: Video · businessHoping to out-maneuver competitors AOL and RealNetworks, MSN offers up a free broadband video service. The difference is that for the time being, the MSN broadband video offering won't have MSN exclusive content, though they will offer news, sports and weather to customers. The system will offer some content from NBC News and MSNBC.com at launch, according to PC World. The service will be supported, says Revolution Magazine, by selling 15 second broadband ad spots, appearing once for every five or six minutes of content. MSN has traditionally been somewhat of a money-pit for Microsoft, and posted a $346 million loss in the first nine months of fiscal 2003.
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tmccann11
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| Doesn't Look Good If all they initially plan to offer is NBC and MSNBC Content, they're going to have a real hard time gaining any share of this market. Besides, who wants to watch news feeds online (even pay for it) when I can just watch TV or read the news on wealth of sites. Plus, you have ISPs like Comcast with their "invisible" limits, which will have people nervous about streaming anything for more than 5 minutes a day.
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| Re: Doesn't Look Good said by Omega  :
I cannot stand registration.
Also, I am pretty sure quality will be sub-par.
I hate registering also - I don't know how many times I have clicked to see something streaming and you either have to register or download some damn player or both.
I can almost guarantee you the quality is poor; but I'll put up with it for free (sorta like those 128K mp3s;) ) | |
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DaveNJ
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Atlanta, GA | Might work if they keep it free There are a lot of people that work in offices, etc. that don't have access to TVs. | |
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dilettante
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| Gosh... Does this just work over some MSN Broadband network, or the Internet in general?
In any case I'm sure its use violates our "acceptable use" policy at work: bandwidth issues.
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User0101
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clubs: | This is really what you will be seeing... Buffering 1%.............................................. | |
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|  Re: This is really what you will be seeing...
said by User0101 :
Buffering 1%..............................................
I don't believe you'll be seeing that, if they use Microsofts Media 9 Player as the streaming software, like they already do at their NBC/MSNBC websites, you'll see buffering for a few seconds, but then after that, great quality streaming. Media Player 9 has better streaming quality then any other player. Your "Buffering 1%.............................................." is characteristic of Real Player and sometimes Quicktime. | |
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| More commercials I hate commercials, save that crap for billboards & newspapers & magazines, which I can opt not to look at or subscribe to. I'm tired of all the control that commercials have on our daily lives.
Did you know that our TV shows could have more content time if it wasn't for commercials. You thought that 32 minutes of your "hour long" show was good, Imagine if they could actually give you 45 or 55 minutes of content instead?
To HELL with commercials. I don't watch TV anymore because of that. I play videogames instead. If a videogame has a commercial at it's opening screen other than for that game or it's sequel, it's history, I don't even consider playing it anymore. If a website has one of those damn annoying ads that blocks your read 10 seconds into it, I stop using that page for good and find a new news source.
I don't have to put up with that shtick, and neither do you.
My 2 cents, is actually worth 10!
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kapil
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| Re: More commercials
I know we all want everything for free, but believe it or not, we are a market economy and these companies gotta make money. I for one would rather have them make that money from advertisers than off ME.
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rideboarder
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| Re: More commercials said by kapil :
You hate commercials? ...you wouldn't feel this way if you had to pay $74 for "regular" TV channels just like you pay for the premium networks.
I know we all want everything for free, but believe it or not, we are a market economy and these companies gotta make money. I for one would rather have them make that money from advertisers than off ME.
Exactly right. Is is that hard to just watch a few commercials? or would you rather pay 50 dollars more a month for your cable/dish?`I for sure rather watch the commercials...They aren't that bad for the most part.
So i guess we have to put up with that "shtick", and you should too. | |
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tmccann11
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clubs: | What about networks like ESPN, Fox News, MTV, Spike TV, the list goes on and on...I pay for those channels, but I'm still subjected to commercials out that a$$. If they did offer versions without commercials.
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kapil
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Chicago, IL | Re: More commercials You are paying for distribution...your cable company's lines, offices, repair people, call centers, bills and postage etc. | |
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rideboarder
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| Re: More commercials said by kapil :
You are paying for distribution...your cable company's lines, offices, repair people, call centers, bills and postage etc.
Exactly...You are not paying for the tv station, you're paying for recieving them. So you only pay the Cable company. The channels themselves have to make money somehow, which is why there are commercials.
edit: and if they had versions of it without commercials, you would be paying a lot to watch them.
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| Sound Business Model? quote:
MSN has traditionally been somewhat of a money-pit for Microsoft, and posted a $346 million loss in the first nine months of fiscal 2003.
How many other companies would continue to offer a service if it lost this much money?
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Smokey
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clubs: | What I would like to see. If they will be streaming NBC shows, I would like to see them offer the primetime lineup. Case in point I got called in to work last night and forgot to set my DVR to record my shows. If there were a way to watch that on the net I'm all for it! | |
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Chinabound
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clubs: | Make the best of commecials That's when I go to the bathroom. | |
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DavidD6
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| MSN Video Feeds vs Comcast Cable Limits So what happens when this service launches, and a whole bunch of Comcast customers get letters from their cable company about using too much bandwidth?
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PwnZone | I got an idea how about streaming made for tv movies, and streaming documentaries? I might watch that. | |
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| Re: I got an idea I want to see streaming football games, since I can't get the team I want to watch. If aol can offer streaming concerts live, streaming football games is something everyone would want, at least if you lived in different areas where they aren't on tv. | |
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kstuart
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| Never watch TV commercials again quote:
To HELL with commercials. I don't watch TV anymore because of that.
Anyone who can figure out how to:
- run a PC
- install/manage/use broadband
- start and view an online video stream
should be able to never watch TV commercials again by:
a) either using a TiVo or DishDVR and fast-forwarding through the commercials
b) watching Premium channels like HBO or Showtime, which have better programs, like Carnivale and Jeremiah, which I can watch in digital 5.1 sound with no commercials. Well worth the $10 per month.
Some people complain about the bad values promoted by TV programs, but I find that commercials are much worse - a majority of the little "dramas" in TV commercials are based on promoting or celebrating unethical behavior.
A prime example is the one with the father teaching his son to swim and then pushes the son out of the way (and into the water), so that he can retrieve $0.25 - with the punchline "Our Kind of Customer". | |
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