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New Open Source Firmware Encourages Wi-Fi Sharing

The "Open Wireless Movement" was devised years ago by the EFF, Free Press, Mozilla and others to advocate for the sharing of broadband via publicly-accessible Wi-Fi hotspots. At the upcoming Hackers on Planet Earth conference, the group says they're going to unveil new "Open Wireless Router" firmware that simplifies the process of safely and securely offering free Wi-Fi without hindering your own network.

The concept obviously isn't new; though the group claims their firmware will be better, more secure and upgraded more often that standard router firmware:
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The Open Wireless Router creators argue their software will be more convenient and secure than the buggy default firmware in typical Netgear and Linksys devices. Unlike those rarely-updated devices, the OpenWireless.org router firmware will be security-audited and allow users to check for updates on the devices’ smartphone-friendly web interface and quickly download updates. “We want to get a much better router in peoples’ hands that will improve their overall experience and security,” says Krishnan.
Initially the firmware's only going to be available for one unspecified router sometime in mid-July, though they hope to expand device compatibility and even perhaps in time offer their own router.
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ArrayList
DevOps
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join:2005-03-19
Mullica Hill, NJ

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ArrayList

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caps

worry, but I won't share squat as long as I have a data cap.

IowaCowboy
Lost in the Supermarket
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join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA

IowaCowboy

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I use the factory firmware

I'm using the factory firmware on my Asus RT-N66U. And the guest network is off.

Keep in mind Wi-Fi sharing on your router counts against ISP caps.

Batman
@50.182.54.x

Batman

Anon

Re: I use the factory firmware

said by IowaCowboy:

Keep in mind Wi-Fi sharing on your router counts against ISP caps.

Not if you use Comcast's router.

bmccoy
join:2013-03-18
Port Orchard, WA

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to IowaCowboy
OpenWRT is the best firmware out there for most routers, it just takes some time to get used to. But once you have it configured, you won't have to touch it for a very long time.

SimbaSeven
I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

SimbaSeven

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Re: I use the factory firmware

I utilize dd-wrt on my AP's. They work perfectly.
decifal7
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN

decifal7

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will not

Will never work with caps.. All it takes is just one heavy user and someone who is actually paying the isp bill will lose their entire months data cap.. Screw that
AmericanMan
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united state

AmericanMan

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Guest networks are only for house guests I KNOW

I bought a router specifically because it had a Guest Network feature, that way when we have houseguests, I can give them our Guest Network Wi-Fi password and they can access the Internet but not our Intranet.

So this Open Wireless feature could be neat for that. Also, it'd be nice if there was some throttling feature so we could limit the max Internet bandwidth on the Guest Network.

No way I'd open this up to the general public at large. Our unlimited grandfathered 3G doesn't have caps but we don't want anybody trying to tie up our bandwidth.

timcuth
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timcuth

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Why not just share...

the configuration to help everyone do this, if they want? If it is to be truly open, that would seem to be best, instead of dribbling out firmware one router model at a time.

Tim
NLiveris
join:2001-11-25
Chicago, IL

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uhhh No thanks

Why should I supply internet to freeloaders and strangers? Why should my router's wifi resources be consumed by these leeches?

No one can guarantee a freeloader won't engage in illegal activity using my internet connection.

And I am paying for electricity that powers my network devices as well.

And why would I want a stranger using my bandwidth? Wtf???

"Safely and securely," yeah right what a joke. That's a huge pile of horseshit.

Get your own internet.

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ

dvd536

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Re: uhhh No thanks

Caps are what killed free wi-fi. i used to have 6 open/WEP routers available to me. the ones still broadcasting are tight as a tick.
BiggA
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Central CT

BiggA

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Re: uhhh No thanks

What provider do you have? Most connections still don't have caps. Comcast and AT&T (U-Verse) don't enforce theirs, except for a few Comcast "trial" markets.
BiggA

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I have no issue with people using some of my bandwidth, but I definitely don't want people doing illegal stuff on my connection, and that's the reason I wouldn't have an open AP at this point in the game...

Leafsley
@66.55.144.x

Leafsley

Anon

No thanks...

It's a Baadddd Ideaaa.

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ

dvd536

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Neutered routers

will it work on these?

ropeguru
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Mechanicsville, VA

ropeguru

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Not only caps...

But every ISP service I have ever used has in their TOS that this was not allowed, and if discovered, you could have your service cancelled with a lifetime ban.
big_e
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big_e

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So is the EFF going to represent us pro bono if something goes wrong?

The EFF is urging people to put themselves at legal risk by running an public wifi access point and is providing the firmware to do so. But are they also going to pony up and provide lawyers when someone gets raided by the cops because one of the anonymous users of these public wifi hotspots used it to download child porn, or perform some other illegal activity?

Sure. The EFF wants to use cases such as these to more firmly establish the legal precedent that an IP address is not a person, but who wants to be the canary in the coal mine for the EFF?
Rekrul
join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT

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Re: So is the EFF going to represent us pro bono if something goes wrong?

said by big_e:

Sure. The EFF wants to use cases such as these to more firmly establish the legal precedent that an IP address is not a person, but who wants to be the canary in the coal mine for the EFF?

Even if it gets to the point where a firm legal precedent is set that an IP address does not equal a person, it won't stop police raids on homes where the IP address registered there is logged doing something illegal, like distributing child porn.

Of course, if there were any common sense left in society and law enforcement, a couple of detectives would knock on the door and question the account holder. Unfortunately in today's world, common sense has gone out the window and they're more likely to send a SWAT team to smash down the door, throw in stun grenades, shoot the family dog and hold everyone at gunpoint for 5-6 hours while they ransack the house.
Cobra11M
join:2010-12-23
Mineral Wells, TX

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hmm

maybe they will tell us more about this.., I for one run ddwrt on both my router and my friends.. reason being is its more capable than anything and gets the job done very very well.. ive been running DD-WRT v24-sp2 (04/13/11) big (SVN revision 16785) for a while now and never have to restart me E3000's or E2000 for that matter.. i would love to upgrade to a newer version but im lost on that lol, but it does what i need

Zero99
@65.31.207.x

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Re: hmm

I actually do provide free wifi at my KC house, Since I got google fiber. I have a connected router set up that provides 5Mbps service up and down to anyone that wants it. the router is running DD-WRT and is very limited in services that can be used. It also requires you to create an account through a portal, which I do verify from time to time. If the person created a fake account, Not only do I kick them off the WiFi, I block the MAC address associated with the account. Yes I realize there are ways around it, However, I have yet to have any problems.