  jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1 | Buzzards vs Hyenas It reminds me of watching carrion-eaters squabbling about a carcass, with the customer being the decaying food source. Similarly, it doesn't really matter who wins this battle to the hapless customer. | |
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 |  CptGeminiInside your computerPremium
join:2004-11-29
Corpus Christi, TX
kudos:6
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| Re: Buzzards vs Hyenas said by jmn1207:It reminds me of watching carrion-eaters squabbling about a carcass, with the customer being the decaying food source. Similarly, it doesn't really matter who wins this battle to the hapless customer. lol that made me laugh. but anyway i dont really watch a whole lot of tv anymore. mostly local news and a couple of other programs on 2 different HD channels but thats it. | |
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|  56403739Less than 5 months leftPremium
join:2006-03-08
Naples, FL
kudos:2 | said by jmn1207:Similarly, it doesn't really matter who wins this battle to the hapless customer. Solution? Quit being hapless and wean yourself off television. | |
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| | | | Re: Buzzards vs Hyenas Then where do all thoise people go that have jobs in those industries?? How many of your fellow citizens in Naples will be put out of work??
There is a human cost to this line of thought you know. | |
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| | | 56403739Less than 5 months leftPremium
join:2006-03-08
Naples, FL
kudos:2 | Re: Buzzards vs Hyenas said by FloridaBoy:Then where do all thoise people go that have jobs in those industries?? How many of your fellow citizens in Naples will be put out of work?? There is a human cost to this line of thought you know. I'll bet you don't worry about the unemployed US textile workers when you buy your socks at Wal*Mart, or shed a tear over unemployed American tobacco pickers with every restriction on smoking.
Most of my fellow citizens in Naples are retired, work in the service or construction industries, or are self-employed investors. Whether a channel is on a cable system or not is about as far from reality here as you are. | |
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| | | | said by 56403739:said by jmn1207:Similarly, it doesn't really matter who wins this battle to the hapless customer. Solution? Quit being hapless and wean yourself off television. Or get an antenna.
It's amazing to see people whine about these retrans fights when the solution is so easy! Put up an antenna. Free HD with no additional compression, direct from the source, and immunity to retrans disputes. | |
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| | | | | Re: Buzzards vs Hyenas many areas can't get OTA due to the change with Digital OTA. That is an issue that has been discussed over and over again, and the FCC won't realize it. But what is funny, many of these broadcast stations aren't even at full power under Digital OTA. If they wanted to they could up the power and cover more homes. But they choose not to. | |
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| | | | 56403739Less than 5 months leftPremium
join:2006-03-08
Naples, FL
kudos:2 | Re: Buzzards vs Hyenas How do you so consistently post incorrect information?
There are TV stations increasing power and changing channels to do it every month. This is in a state of flux and won't be completely settled until Julius "give Verizon and AT&T everything they ask for" Genachowski quits screwing around with the band. | |
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|  LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | said by jmn1207:It reminds me of watching carrion-eaters squabbling about a carcass, with the customer being the decaying food source. Similarly, it doesn't really matter who wins this battle to the hapless customer. Every time a cable company tries to hold the line on content prices the customers squeal like stuck pigs; whine to their congress critters to force a deal; and threaten to go elsewhere. As long as the cable company customers act this way and then pay the inevitable price increases, nothing will change. | |
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| | 56403739Less than 5 months leftPremium
join:2006-03-08
Naples, FL
kudos:2 | Re: Buzzards vs Hyenas said by Linklist:As long as the cable company customers act this way and then pay the inevitable price increases, nothing will change. Actually, cable company customers are starting to change their behavior; they are realizing that the cost is not worth it and are beginning to cut the cord, which is the real solution to this madness. | |
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| | | LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Re: Buzzards vs Hyenas said by 56403739:said by Linklist:As long as the cable company customers act this way and then pay the inevitable price increases, nothing will change. Actually, cable company customers are starting to change their behavior; they are realizing that the cost is not worth it and are beginning to cut the cord, which is the real solution to this madness. There seems to be a difference of opinion over whether cord cutting is going on or not:
»Cord Cutting Denial Alive And Well | |
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| | | | Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | Re: Buzzards vs Hyenas While there seems to be some question about how much actual cord cutting there is, there seems to be no doubt that an increasing number of cable video subscribers have started to question the value proposition. Cable companies have justified price increases by saying that subscribers are getting more. That argument now falls apart because there are so many crap cable channels that there is nothing to fill them but low budget crap, more commercials, and more annoying promos. | |
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| | | | | LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Re: Buzzards vs Hyenas said by Sammer:While there seems to be some question about how much actual cord cutting there is, there seems to be no doubt that an increasing number of cable video subscribers have started to question the value proposition. I agree with that. And I think many users are cutting back from highest priced tiers to lower priced ones. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: Buzzards vs Hyenas and that is what is happening. customers are going from 3 tiers of service of TV to 1 or 2. instead of having countless channels of nothing on. MSOs/IPTV providers are smart by moving the most watched channels to Digital Tiers to get the $$$ they want. | |
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | The problem is that its our wallets that they're picking at.
The end result is the same - carcass is picked clean. | |
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QLR
join:2009-06-23
Tallahassee, FL Reviews:
·Comcast
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| luckily there is no Time Warner here lol Sinclair is always in a retransmission battle with the cable companies... in south Georgia, they just managed to eke out an agreement for now with Mediacom. I think it comes back next year. I think they can care less for the local Sinclair station here, WTWC, a NBC affiliate. No news, only NBC programming and court shows. Station has been plagued with various technical problems. The south Georgia viewers are likely happy with WALB, the Media General NBC station in Albany, or WCTV/WSWG.
Why can't the stations revert to must carry when the agreements end, so viewers wouldn't be adversely impacted? | |
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|  SeleniaI love DebianPremium
join:2006-09-22
Lanesboro, MA
kudos:2 | Re: luckily there is no Time Warner here lol said by QLR:Why can't the stations revert to must carry when the agreements end, so viewers wouldn't be adversely impacted. Because then the network couldn't have its heaping helping of the dead carcass.
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The new Sony rootkit-Using the ability to remove features you paid for. What's next? Boycott Sony products »[Rant] ps3 update = no more Linux | |
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|  HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | said by QLR: Why can't the stations revert to must carry when the agreements end, so viewers wouldn't be adversely impacted? They can't have it both ways !! As I understand it, once a station asks for compensation, they lose the right to invoke 'must-carry'. As well it should be too ! | |
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| | | | Re: luckily there is no Time Warner here lol Not invoking the right of 'must-carry' doesn't give the provider the right to negotiate with another station in a foreign DMA -- I think it should. | |
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| | | | Not totally true. They can switch once every three years. No sooner. | |
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| | | HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | Re: luckily there is no Time Warner here lol said by fifty nine:Not totally true. They can switch once every three years. No sooner. Either way, safe to say that once a station goes the compensation route, they'll never go back to 'must-carry'. It's obvious that they can't squeeze the advertisers for more money so instead of adjusting their budget, they just make up the loss of income from other sources. | |
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|  IowaManPremium
join:2008-08-21
Grinnell, IA | Why does your station in Tallahassee sound alot like KDSM FOX 17 in Des Moines? (No News Cast of there own with only FOX programming and court shows)
Someone please buy this horrible company
They make Mediacom look good by comparison | |
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| | | said by QLR:Sinclair is always in a retransmission battle with the cable companies... in south Georgia, they just managed to eke out an agreement for now with Mediacom. I think it comes back next year. I think they can care less for the local Sinclair station here, WTWC, a NBC affiliate. No news, only NBC programming and court shows. Station has been plagued with various technical problems. The south Georgia viewers are likely happy with WALB, the Media General NBC station in Albany, or WCTV/WSWG. Why can't the stations revert to must carry when the agreements end, so viewers wouldn't be adversely impacted? Why would they want to? The whole point is that they can ask for compensation or threaten to pull the signal.
Besides they are only allowed to switch between must carry and restans consent only once every three years. | |
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HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | Congressional involvement ? So, what congressional reps will get involved this time ? Oh wait, it's November 11th...  | |
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| | | Re: Congressional involvement ? lol none. and not because of the date. Because they have no power. That's the issue and they know it. NO Gov't body has the power to get in the middle really. The FCC only makes "rules" and they're very broad at that and are easily struck down in court- which we all know too well and their battles with the MSOs and at times the Telcos - or both. But the Feds can't force the content providers to actually give up their networks/content at a "responsible" rate. They own and at most created the content- they have the right to charge for it. if the provider doesn't want to carry it; then they have the right to say no and move on. | |
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| | HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | Re: Congressional involvement ? Just two weeks ago, a NY congress person tried to meddle in the FOX vs Cablevision dispute, remember ? | |
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| | | | | Re: Congressional involvement ? tried. has no legal power at all. and remember it was election time. | |
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| | | | HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | Re: Congressional involvement ? said by hottboiinnc: and remember it was election time. You catch on quick (not!). | |
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| | Cut da cord. Who needs the grief. Coon & Friends is on Com Channel right now on net (SP) so why bother. Glad to see cable$$ gone. | |
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| | | Re: Cut da cord. cut the cord and up goes your HSI bill. So you lose either way. Cable HSI goes up $10 and when they wanna issue a rate hike- CV, Charter and all the rest will take a lesson out of the TWC play book and raise rates not only for TV but also for HSI customers as well so they still get that extra $$$ they're losing. When TWC did that last year rates on HSI went up a good 4% for all but a few areas. Those areas are set to see the rate hike very soon as their moving everyone into 2 areas. TWC East and TWC West. | |
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| | | Re: bye bye sinclair TWC won't pull the plug. That's a myth that needs to be corrected. the broadcast station/owners pull the plug. Why keep blaming the actual MSO/TV Provider when actually it's the content owner that requires the channel to go black? | |
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