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New York City Converts Payphones to Free Wi-Fi Hotspots
Trial Begins This Week to Improve City Wi-Fi
by Karl Bode Friday 13-Jul-2012 tags: coverage · wireless · alternatives · bandwidth · municipal · consumers · wireless
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With pay phone use in steep decline due to mobile phones, New York City launched a new trial this week that will aim to turn some of the city's 12,000 remaining payphones into Wi-Fi hotspots. The idea isn't new; long time readers will remember that Verizon tinkered with turning payphones into hotspots, but then backed away from the idea in 2005 when they realized that Wi-Fi wasn't a hot money maker. This new New York City effort doesn't eliminate the payphones, it simply adds an embedded Wi-Fi router into the kiosk.

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The city says the hotspots will be free with each hotspot having a range of about 200 feet. There's no word on who would run the new hotspots, though companies like Time Warner Cable and Cablevision are offering paid Wi-Fi service in numerous city parks. The city's Tumblr blog lists the following locations for the new hotspots:

Brooklyn
•Brooklyn Heights-Cobble Hill: 545 Albee Square and 2 Smith Street
Queens
•Astoria: 30-94 Steinway Street
Manhattan
•SoHo: 402 West Broadway
•Fur-Flower District: 458 Seventh Avenue
•Theater District-Clinton: 28 West 48th Street
•Grand Central-United Nations: 410 Madison Avenue
•Midtown-Clinton: 1609 Broadway and 1790 Broadway
•Upper West Side: 230 West 95th Street

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nycdave
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Verizon WiFi Network

I was involved in the original Verizon WiFi rollout in 2003. Part of the problem back then was the poor AC power at each pay phone caused the ADSL modems and radios to lock up. Unless this new trial can overcome some big logistical obstacles - and the equipment doesn't get stolen - this trial won't get expanded too far.

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Re: Verizon WiFi Network

I wonder how many working pay phones are still left in the 5 boroughs? A few hundred , tops? I can't believe the number quoted - 12,000. That can't take in to account most are inoperable.
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Re: Verizon WiFi Network

You would be surprised, they are still everywhere. We have been fixing a lot of them lately here in NYC because they were recently sold off to a company that purportedly wants them just for their advertising revenue (mini billboards). However, part of the deal is the payphone has to be working to be accepted by the new company.

I don't know how the city enters into this equation, maybe it is totally different payphones the city is experimenting with but I could certainly see ad-based free WiFi as something this new company could be interested in.
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said by Linklist:

I wonder how many working pay phones are still left in the 5 boroughs? A few hundred , tops? I can't believe the number quoted - 12,000. That can't take in to account most are inoperable.

Even if they are not hanging there, the wires most likely will still be in place.

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Interesting. Was the AC power coming from street as I'd imagine so or was it being powered from the POTS network?

nycdave
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Re: Verizon WiFi Network

AC power was provided by NYC to power the advertising signs and lights in the phone booths...

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Re: Verizon WiFi Network

Ah, ok. Must've been noisy as heck then so I can see why the power would have caused issues. The power's quite noisy where I am and I have to place all of my computer equipment on conditioners or else they do weird things.
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well

Well, thats different.. Least you can see where some of the money is going for a change.. (read: ATT and the gang with slush funds)

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All of the payphones in Ireland are Wifi Hotspots. This is a great idea.
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infrastructure

the payphones are a maintenance expense the telcos don't want anymore since so few people actually use them. still, this leaves open the possibility cablecos can get in on the free wifi hostpot action.

I'm still disappointed every new (beneficial)feature of the city is focused primarily on Manhattan for starters. Communities in the outer boroughs don't seem to matter, except for the drain on the city's resources..

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Here's an even better idea...

Last week I was listening to the Worst of Opie & Anthony and they were playing a clip from a few months ago where the boys were talking about a plan in NYC to turn bums in mobile wifi hot spots. Bums would carry around mifi devices and people could pay something like $2 for 15 minutes of connectivity. Now that right there is genius! I'm sure there's more bums in NYC then there are pay phones.
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Re: Here's an even better idea...

said by Steve Mehs:

I'm sure there's more bums in NYC then there are pay phones.

..Yeah, Just like in Vegas. "Costumed Street Performers" (read anonymous bums) .. Make it someone's profit center, You'll have them everywhere. Next would be fights for turf. Gangs would find a way in, and then they'd be walking networks of criminals.

I'm just sayin'
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ernstk

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Pay phone Wi-Fi tested

Yesterday I tried Steinway St (Queens) and 1790 B'way.
Both are Van Wagner phones and the Wi-Fi comes from nnu.
name: Free WiFi NYC
Today I tried 1609 B'way which is a Titan phone with Wi-Fi from Boingo.
name: NYC-PUBLIC-WIFI
What I didn't like was that the name is not the same. I mean AT&T Wi-Fi
is always at&t at Starbucks, McDonalds, NYC parks, their stores.
Anybody else tried one?
Klaus Ernst
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Re: Pay phone Wi-Fi tested

The "230 West 95th St" location is a block away from where I live. I should give it a try soon.

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Manhattan is where the tax revenue comes from

Manhattan has the largest concentration of high earners in the US.

»ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-inco···xes.html
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Re: Manhattan is where the tax revenue comes from

said by Maggs:

Manhattan has the largest concentration of high earners in the US.

»ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-inco···xes.html

and by comparison the widest gap in rich to poor in the country as well (for the same geography) in the USA...

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I'm at a payphone

I'm at a pay phone trying to go online, none of my change is spent on that

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