 | | again i notice way to much now. with last minute meetings for serious stuff happening and then all sudden some thing like this is in the bill | |
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This friendly tip brought to you by Common Sense. -- -Jason Levine | |
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 |  BlueC join:2009-11-26 Minneapolis, MN | Re: Tip for lawmakers I think we all anticipate lawmakers to make decisions w/o any common sense. | |
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 |  |  DarkLogixPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | law makers and common sense in the same sentance sounds blasphemous
I wonder how much the music groups are shelling out for this | |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | Latest version makes disconnect almost impossible
Speaking in Parliament after the vote this evening, Labour communications and IT spokeswoman Clare Curran said her party opposed internet account termination for copyright infringers.
But it supported the bill because its compromise version only allowed for a person's internet account to be cut off by an order in council. Such an order can only be issued by a cabinet minister and has to be signed by the Governor General - a much more high-level process than the three-strikes-and-you're-out warning-then-disconnection regime originally outline in the notorious (and now scrapped) Section 92a. The latest version of the 3 strikes laws has such a high hurdle to disconnect a user it is almost meaningless. Nothing to get wound up about. | |
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 |  | | Re: Latest version makes disconnect almost impossible Because politicians have never been known to rubber stamp things mindlessly at an industry's behest... | |
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 |  |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | Re: Latest version makes disconnect almost impossible said by Karl Bode:Because politicians have never been known to rubber stamp things mindlessly at an industry's behest... But at cabinet minister and governor general level, disconnects would be so far down on their priority tasks as to be very rare. | |
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| What a lack of good morale... I don't believe Copyright bills constitute as an emergency, regardless of the situation. For something like this to be pushed into a meeting regarding a natural disaster (something serious), it is shameful. It just goes to show how bad this train of though of "I want it NOW!" is, especially with Copyright these days.
The way I see it, that bill should simply be thrown out over presentation, regardless of it's content. | |
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 |  DarkLogixPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | Re: What a lack of good morale... if some one there had common sense (which many lawmakers lack) then the person that brought up that 3strike idea during the metting would have been thrown out | |
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 |  | | and what morales do the MAFIAA have................ obviously none at all and this is just one of the proofs | |
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 | | seperate bills What "the people" really need to do, is push for separation in Bills. One Bill, one project. Even though that does add time to the politicians day, to "discuss" "each" Bill.
Meaning that if it's a bill for the earthquake, Only "that particular earthquake" related things can be in it, and not just add in for other things like "3 strikes and you are out, you innocent bastards". How many Bills have had some sort of kick back money for a certain area, buried deep and in some vague terms to what it is for. Like a bridge up north that is already fully earthquake resistant, but needs to be a different color for some politicians floozies birthday(called the "current paint color is distracting to drivers" Bill, and including in the Bill "inspection of joints/rivets while painting", which is actually covered under current financing).
-- Consumer Rights is more than just a suggestion. | |
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 |  | | Re: seperate bills I agree 100% with the one bill (of related matter) and one vote. I disagree it would take more time to deal with each bill though.
For every "attached" item there will be some kind of discussion unless it is just blanketly approved by all. And if that is the case it would pass in seconds anyway.
I would also further this by saying ALL votes must be done electronically by ALL members of congress with option comments. No missing a vote as they can be done remotely or over a couple days time. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason votes cant be administered electronically and the public to have access to exactly who voted what and why if they so choose to explain. | |
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 |  |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: seperate bills I agree about all members having to vote on bills especially. for the money that lawmakers get(at least here in the USA) they should have to work just as many days of the year as a cubical slave does. Congressman get paid lots of money and do almost no work. the cashier at a supermarket does more work a year than a few congress critters combined. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs kudos:1 | Whew! It's not just an American thing WOW! And here I thought we were the only country with jerks this "crafty" in the legislative branch.
Nice to know it's humanity that's doomed, and not just us.
Doomed, MOTHER#$%KING doomed...... -- Petty people are disproportionally corrupted by petty power | |
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 | | Silly I just cant wait until one of these lawmakers is hit by their own draconian rule when one of these lawmakers children violates the "three strikes" law trying to get the latest Lady Gaga CD rip off a P2P client and gets Daddy lawmakers internet connection shut off.
You know its going to happen. | |
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 |  DarkLogixPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | Re: Silly naw that kind of lawmaker is immune to copyright | |
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 |  |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Silly said by DarkLogix:naw that kind of lawmaker is immune to copyright Hell many times they are nearly immune to laws in general. Congressmen have gotten away with things that would land most of us in the slammer. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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| Re: Silly said by Kearnstd:said by DarkLogix:naw that kind of lawmaker is immune to copyright Hell many times they are nearly immune to laws in general. Congressmen have gotten away with things that would land most of us in the slammer. Senator David Vitter gets caught in a prostitution ring, nothing happens.
Normal John gets caught, goes to jail for solicitation of prostitution.
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 exocet_cmYou delete it, I'll find itPremium join:2003-03-23 New Orleans, LA kudos:2 | Accuse them too Just accuse the lawmaker of violating copyright policy and have their home/work connection killed.
Two can play at that game. | |
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 |  Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX | Re: Accuse them too said by exocet_cm:Just accuse the lawmaker of violating copyright policy and have their home/work connection killed.
Two can play at that game. Sounds like something that Anonymous would do. I seem to recall reading something saying that some of them were aiming their LOIC's at the NZ government because of this. -- I, for one, welcome our new Computer Overlords. | |
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I don't know how New Zealand addresses lobbying and corporate corruption of the democratic process, but I'd like to think these series of anti-consumer legislations being desperately pushed through by almost all politicians will be a major wake-up call to the New Zealand populace of how businesses are slowly taking control of their government. | |
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| Same story Same as America, repeated and is the result of an industry with time and money on it's hands and both NZ & American governments who aside from their teenage kids; don't have a clue how services are used; or much at all about technology.
»www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digit···w-passed
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