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1 edit | I'm more interested in 3.0 features Like cut and paste and built in MMS which should have been included from day one. The 50% more expensive 3G plans which don't even include any texting is why I've stuck with my edge iPhone.
I may upgrade in June if the new phone has a ton of coolness otherwise I'll move to a competitor like BB, especially if their app store gets anywhere as cool as that for the iPhone. | |
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| Re: I'm more interested in 3.0 features I stuck with my EDGE iPhone too, largely because I only got it last Feb when the 16GB units came out. No way I was gonna upgrade that fast, for very little benefit (we didn't have 3G in our area then, either).
This summer I probably will be looking to upgrade. There are a billion rumors flying around about all kinds of crazy stuff, so I'm taking it all with a grain of salt as yet.
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|  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
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kudos:1 | yeah, a 3.2mp camera isn't very exciting. Maybe 4 years ago...
And 802.11n? For what? Unless the new iphone has a 1920x1080 screen, and a MUCH faster processor, what's the point, other than increasing the price for a marginal gain? | |
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What I wonder is if the rumored iPhone N implementation will be dual band or just at 2.4 GHz. | |
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1 edit | Re: I'm more interested in 3.0 features If they're going to advertise the "big speed" of 802.11n they'll have to be dual band 'cause Apple only runs 20MHz at 2.4GHz limiting theoretical speed to 130Mb. They offer 40MHz channels but only at 5GHz as to not interfere with bluetooth. | |
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Gurnee, IL | The iPhone's CPU is allready pretty fast. They have to downclock it by nearly 300mhz to save on battery life, however. | |
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College Station, TX | RE If this is the only change they are making, it's not worth all the lines and craziness, if they can even sell it as people will probably be upset because they just bought the first 3G. If I do decide to get the new one, I will just order it from the AT&T website. | |
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kudos:1 | No matter the cost... I will in the following order:
Wet myself, then buy whatever it is that Apple is willing to sell me. 
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|  jester121Premium
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|  richdelbGo Hawks GoPremium
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Algonquin, IL | said by spewak:I will in the following order: Wet myself, then buy whatever it is that Apple is willing to sell me. I am pounding my hand on my desk, gasping for air....
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kudos:1 | With LTE a year of so away With LTE in the future i am just going to wait till the 4G version. Although, this is the first one i would consider getting. | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: With LTE a year of so away said by DaveDude:With LTE in the future i am just going to wait till the 4G version. Although, this is the first one i would consider getting. Hilarious.  | |
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Elmhurst, NY | Re: With LTE a year of so away said by kamm:said by DaveDude:With LTE in the future i am just going to wait till the 4G version. Although, this is the first one i would consider getting. Hilarious. And then he can end up waiting for whatever else is announced after 4G goes live.
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Brooklyn, NY | AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! This is the joke of the week, ROTFLMAO!
Let me see: their suppoed 3.2Mb current HSDPA works around 600-800Kb/s average at best...
... soooif they keep the same fuckin' crooked greedy, PoS nickel'n'diming setup then you can expect around 1.5Mb average - half of what they supposed to do NOW.
What an utter greedy piece of sh!t company (I hope you also won't forget when they handed over all your traffic to the NSA without ever telling you then bought a legislation to get immunity?)
For comparison in any decent European city you average at least between 3Mb-4Mbit when using HSDPA.
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| | | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! said by kamm:This is the joke of the week, ROTFLMAO! Let me see: their suppoed 3.2Mb current HSDPA works around 600-800Kb/s average at best... ... sooo if they keep the same fuckin' crooked greedy, PoS nickel'n'diming setup then you can expect around 1.5Mb average - half of what they supposed to do NOW.What an utter greedy piece of sh!t company (I hope you also won't forget when they handed over all your traffic to the NSA without ever telling you then bought a legislation to get immunity?) For comparison in any decent European city you average at least between 3Mb-4Mbit when using HSDPA. Actually a decent European city averages between 600 Kbps - 1400 Kbps. A decent US city 3G averages 800 Kbps - 1600 Kbps. | |
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3 edits | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! said by dlewis23:said by kamm:This is the joke of the week, ROTFLMAO! Let me see: their suppoed 3.2Mb current HSDPA works around 600-800Kb/s average at best... ... sooo if they keep the same fuckin' crooked greedy, PoS nickel'n'diming setup then you can expect around 1.5Mb average - half of what they supposed to do NOW.What an utter greedy piece of sh!t company (I hope you also won't forget when they handed over all your traffic to the NSA without ever telling you then bought a legislation to get immunity?) For comparison in any decent European city you average at least between 3Mb-4Mbit when using HSDPA. Actually a decent European city averages between 600 Kbps - 1400 Kbps. A decent US city 3G averages 800 Kbps - 1600 Kbps. Let me call this on its name: bull... 
I don't know what 'decent' means for you but any city from population 500k-1M and up offers a lot faster than your number - usually around MY number.
US doesn't even have video calling due to its shitty@ss networks - in Europe you have it for years.
Heck, my little native Central-EU country has 7.2Mb HSDPA for at least 2 years now, in every place with population 10k and up (~40-50 cities and towns.) And this is NOT Western Europe but Central Europe where you've got a lot smaller, lot less 'affluent' market...
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Astoria, NY | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! Your absolutely correct!!
When I was in Greece 2 years ago I was able to make a video call on my mobile over their 3g network. This is something that when spoken here in the U.S. sounds Star Trekish and everyone looks confused. | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! said by DjVaGGo:Your absolutely correct!! When I was in Greece 2 years ago I was able to make a video call on my mobile over their 3g network. This is something that when spoken here in the U.S. sounds Star Trekish and everyone looks confused.
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| | | | | | | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! Australia also has video calling and it's included in their unlimited calling plans. | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! said by bakorican:Actually. I live in a decent european city; to wit Munich, and I average between 3-4 mb on my HSPA wíth 02. Danke sehr, lieber Municher. | |
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2 edits | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! said by DaveDude:Plus the fact in European countries 3G is only on the 2100 band. In the US its on 1900 and 800 bands. Which leads to better penetration. When you bash America, be sure to check more countries. Telstra is really the fastest carrier in the world. Having 3G on 800 and 2100. And just WTF does it have to do with the fact that AT&T is SLOW AS @SS?
It has NOTHING to do with frequencies - it's bad network setup, period. And I know you know it..
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1 edit | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! said by kamm:said by DaveDude:Plus the fact in European countries 3G is only on the 2100 band. In the US its on 1900 and 800 bands. Which leads to better penetration. When you bash America, be sure to check more countries. Telstra is really the fastest carrier in the world. Having 3G on 800 and 2100. And just WTF does it have to do with the fact that AT&T is SLOW AS @SS?It has NOTHING to do with frequencies - it's bad network setup, period. And I know you know it.. It costs 4x as much to set up a 2100 mhz, network compared to an 800 mhz network. Maybe i just will put it in bold..
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1 edit | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! said by DaveDude:said by kamm:said by DaveDude:Plus the fact in European countries 3G is only on the 2100 band. In the US its on 1900 and 800 bands. Which leads to better penetration. When you bash America, be sure to check more countries. Telstra is really the fastest carrier in the world. Having 3G on 800 and 2100. And just WTF does it have to do with the fact that AT&T is SLOW AS @SS?It has NOTHING to do with frequencies - it's bad network setup, period. And I know you know it.. It costs 4x as much to set up a 2100 mhz, network compared to an 800 mhz network. Maybe i just will put it in bold.. So your point is... my point (ie that PoS rotten, corrupt, greedy AT&T refuses to put enough money into its network)? 
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| | |  en102Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | said by kamm:said by DaveDude:Plus the fact in European countries 3G is only on the 2100 band. In the US its on 1900 and 800 bands. Which leads to better penetration. When you bash America, be sure to check more countries. Telstra is really the fastest carrier in the world. Having 3G on 800 and 2100. And just WTF does it have to do with the fact that AT&T is SLOW AS @SS?It has NOTHING to do with frequencies - it's bad network setup, period. And I know you know it.. It has everything to do with the frequencies. Having a whole chunk of unused spectrum to deploy 3g. The have the capacity to have users hit higher data rates. At&t has reused existing spectrum, which doesn't always allow for more that 1 to 2 carrier channels, or gsm would have issues. | |
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1 edit | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! said by en102:said by kamm:said by DaveDude:Plus the fact in European countries 3G is only on the 2100 band. In the US its on 1900 and 800 bands. Which leads to better penetration. When you bash America, be sure to check more countries. Telstra is really the fastest carrier in the world. Having 3G on 800 and 2100. And just WTF does it have to do with the fact that AT&T is SLOW AS @SS?It has NOTHING to do with frequencies - it's bad network setup, period. And I know you know it.. It has everything to do with the frequencies. Having a whole chunk of unused spectrum to deploy 3g. The have the capacity to have users hit higher data rates. At&t has reused existing spectrum, which doesn't always allow for more that 1 to 2 carrier channels, or gsm would have issues. So again: what does it have to do with my point, namely that THEIR NETWORK SETUP SUCKS, only due to their GREED? 
You guys are saying the same...
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kudos:1 | Re: AT&T announce their planned 7Mbps HSPA speed boost-BWHAHAHA! ARRR ARR!!!! MORE THAN 50% OF MY TEXT IS BOLDED ARRR IMA PIRATE.... | |
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| atuarreHere come the drumsPremium
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College Station, TX | Let us be frank. We all know the issue is not with AT&T's network but with the design of the iPhone. AT&T is leaps and bounds ahead of the competition. | |
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|  WiseOldNerdDe gustibus non est disputandumPremium
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Phoenix, AZ | Re: Would I upgrade? What he said-DITTO | |
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|  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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kudos:12 | Hey Nightfall  , I agree with your first statement. I really like my iPhone although I'm embarassed to admit it. I don't wet my pants over it, but it is without a doubt the best phone/PDA I've ever owned.
However, I don't see a 3.2mp camera or 802.11n as reasons for me personally to upgrade. What would get me to upgrade is if the new iPhone has a faster processor and therefore is more responsive. The current 3G iPhone stutters and lags quite a bit. | |
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| |  NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
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| Re: Would I upgrade? said by Matt:Hey Nightfall , I agree with your first statement. I really like my iPhone although I'm embarassed to admit it. I don't wet my pants over it, but it is without a doubt the best phone/PDA I've ever owned. However, I don't see a 3.2mp camera or 802.11n as reasons for me personally to upgrade. What would get me to upgrade is if the new iPhone has a faster processor and therefore is more responsive. The current 3G iPhone stutters and lags quite a bit. Faster processor would be another good benefit. 16gb of storage is plenty for me so a major increase wouldn't help me out at all. I just don't know. I don't have a laundry list of things I would upgrade for off the top of my head. I just figured when the actual stats are released for this new phone is when I would consider an upgrade or not.
I am not at the "pants wetting" stage either, but after owning a variety of PDAs and phones over the course of my life, this iphone is simply the best. I will be staying with them for the foreseeable future. | |
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| | | Re: 802.11n... meaning 'Pre-N' said by sharksfan3:There isn't even a ratified 802.11n standard yet. Will this be backwards compatible to 802.11g? I think that's how it works. | |
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Ashburn, VA | There's an App for That? If you need an app that finds the best app rating app, is there an app for that?
I may give-in and finally get one depending on how the next hardware/software iteration fares. A 3.2MP camera would be welcomed, provided it did not take 10 minutes or more to send the picture somewhere. | |
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| | Verizon Now I am very happy that Verizon passed up the iPhone. When it is finally released in however many years from now, it might actually be worth a damn. | |
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| | Rollout confirmation I happened to know someone who is working on the AT&T backbone and they told me they are being told to have the infrastructure in place to roll out the iPhone 3.0 in 2 months. He says realistically it will be 3-4 months at best. Nonetheless, that would work perfect, timing wise, to replace my iPhone 1.0. I wasn't that exciting by the 3G and I was seriously considering the Pre, hoping that Sprint has improved their billing and customer service. | |
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| | | Re: Rollout confirmation Sorry, but you don't have the slightest clue what you are rambling on about 'backbone' ROTFL. Even with the 850 overlay in many areas the back end will still be suffering from lack of capacity. Not that I will have a problem with the rollout of 850 MHz 3G where I live, quite the opposite. But their lack of backhaul will continue to be a choke point unless they add more before a whole slew of bandwidth hogging devices are added to their current network.
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join:2001-10-20
Palm Coast, FL | EDGE is garbage I live in an area where we are limited to EDGE speeds only. It's so useless that I called AT&T today and canceled my data plan. I will stick with wifi if I need to get on the internet as waiting for Edge was a waste of time.
These new features sound interesting, I do like the built in FM transmitter. I doubt I'll upgrade though until my area's network is upgraded. | |
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Without these changes, no matter what additions or add ons they do, the iphone will not perform at the level it should.
And, this is coming from an iphone user who loves the phone. | |
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join:2001-10-05
Barrington, IL | Ihpone Expect 1/2 and get 1/3 whats promised. I have an Iphone 3G and the speeds as I travel across the US are ridiculously slow. Edge is nearly as fast as their alleged 3G BS. | |
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Atlanta, GA | added power? I wonder if they'll also include the semi-trailer with diesel generator to supply enough power to operate the thing more than 24 hours at a time?
Everybody I know with an iphone (at least 5 friends) are constantly complaining "my battery is about to die, if the call drops that is why". Out at the clubs, everyone with iphones "hey, can I use your phone, my battery died".. | |
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Tulsa, OK | Re: New iPhone: 3.2MP Camera, 802.11n I'm very interested. I still have the original iPhone and was planning on upgrading to 3G this summer when 3.0 comes out but if this next revision of the iPhone is as great as it sounds, I may hold off until more details emerge. 32GB possible, milti-core atom processor, faster wireless, maybe a front facing camera? All speculation at this point but I hope Apple makes an annoucement soon since my 2 year contract is up and I'm itching for a new toy. | |
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kudos:5 | My phone is over two years old and has a 3.2 megapixel camera. | |
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| | | Re: My phone Exactly. You've proved the theory that the iPhone is really only a toy masquerading as something else | |
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| | | My phone has a 5.0 Mp cam with Carl Zeis lens, big deal
T-mobile already has a 8mp samsung camera phone in their lineup as well. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: My phone I wasn't bragging, merely proving a point. | |
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