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Giggidy Giggidy Giggidy Goo
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join:2004-02-16
Grand Rapids, MI | That a lot of bandwidth How is someone going to use 50 Mbps of bandwidth. | |
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Ronnie1055
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Carrollton, TX | Re: That a lot of bandwidth Ditto.. I mean... really.
Don't get me wrong... I would take it... just not sure what I would do with it.  | |
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join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA
|  Re: That a lot of bandwidth
said by Ronnie1055  :Ditto.. I mean... really. Don't get me wrong... I would take it... just not sure what I would do with it. Are you guys this naive??? 50mb is bad! I wouldn't mind or even 100mbps. Brags right, and behold! Awesome connection!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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join:2003-08-20
South Lyon, MI
clubs: | I would love to have 50mbps down. i really want 100mbps Symmetric but that might be asking a little to much =) | |
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| loeakaodas
join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL | I can find million of ways to use that much bandwidth. Like running an FTP for your friends so you can share your Anime. Or an IRC server... | |
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GlenQuagmire
Giggidy Giggidy Giggidy Goo
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join:2004-02-16
Grand Rapids, MI | Re: That a lot of bandwidth I guess you could run a hell of a pr0n server. | |
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Erwin_D
join:2003-06-30
Netherlands | Nah... They probably offer only 384 Kb upload. | |
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GlenQuagmire
Giggidy Giggidy Giggidy Goo
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join:2004-02-16
Grand Rapids, MI | Re: That a lot of bandwidth At 384 kb up you could net get 50 Mbps down. Remember you still have need to confirmation on the packets you receive. | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Hmm share Anime..
Last time I checked that stuff you still have to buy.
Sharing Anime you bought = illegal.
In the future please be more responsible in saying what you're going to use your fast connection for. It's people like you that the MPAA and RIAA are pointing at when they ask for these new restricted laws and pushing this DRM at us.
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join:2003-07-07
Bronx, NY
| Re: That a lot of bandwidth Like the new anolog broadcast flag, thats aimed at people that use their tv's legally. Not to mention its not illegal to download unlicensed anime. Infact the fansub groups have long had a relationship with the anime studios to stop subbing anime that has been licensed. Its only illegal when you download anime licensed in your own country. So please dont start lumping anime ( yes im a huge fan)with illegal content from the RIAA and MPAA. | |
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join:2004-04-10
Joliet, IL
 ·AT&T Yahoo
| Re: That a lot of bandwidth If I get 4 HD tv's to replace the 4 that are being watched at this moment, what type of serivce will keep up with me ? Does anyone think with the countdown to full digital that people will replace or upgrade ALL of the tv's in the home ? What about my tv in the garage, come to think of it ! Forgot about that one ! Well, I guess I would have to have SD delivered to about 2 or 3 to keep a signal flowing....;) | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Re: That a lot of bandwidth And your tv over FIOS and telephone service also do not compete with the other seperate services. Tv sits on a seperate wavelength than the internet and phone services.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Re: That a lot of bandwidth What is all the crying about bandwidth then? Who cares what speed the internet pipe is(sure, more is better), as long as 2? 3? 5? ??? HDTV feeds are capable?
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Maarvin
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join:2005-04-11
Denver, CO | Re: That a lot of bandwidth When things start turning THAT ugly, it's time to turn your back on it and hope it will go away. | |
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| john1290
join:2003-12-06
Reynoldsburg, OH
| Every single CV customer reading this, no matter where you live, should be FLOODING their support lines and bitching up a storm that it's not fair to offer these speeds only in areas where Verizon is a threat.
Corporate america sure is greedy. | |
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99664227
Heavily MODerated
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join:2002-11-21
USA
| said by GlenQuagmire :How is someone going to use 50 Mbps of bandwidth. I could share my 130GB collection of assorted Porn Movies to all of you.:D
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join:2001-07-20
Columbus, OH | who need fiber to their home? | |
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toadlife
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join:2004-05-03
Lemoore, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| said by GlenQuagmire :How is someone going to use 50 Mbps of bandwidth. I use it at work every day....well, okay it's only 45Mbit.
Seriously though, I rarely am able to actually use 45mbits of bandwidth. Occasionally I do when downloading the latest FreeBSD ISOs, or a patch from Microsoft. Being able to grab a 700MB file in 3 minutes sure is nice, but it's not a necessity. My "measly" little 3mbit connection at home is plenty for me right now.
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packetscan
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join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | What Stinks Closed Door sessions eh?
Something is afoul
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Why Complain? The situation of ISPs fighting over how much more bandwidth they can offer to customers is a beautiful thing.
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Ronnie1055
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join:2004-06-25
Carrollton, TX
| Re: Why Complain? said by pnh102 :The situation of ISPs fighting over how much more bandwidth they can offer to customers is a beautiful thing. Actually you make a very good point... as the speeds go higher... next they will have to compete on price. Which should also be a win-win for us.  | |
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phugit
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join:2002-07-26
Olney, MD | Re: Why Complain? Gotta agree, right now its just the marketing part, 15mbps vs 30mbps, vs 50mbps, but soon they're going to be marketing over price! | |
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guitarzan
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join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
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| said by pnh102 :The situation of ISPs fighting over how much more bandwidth they can offer to customers is a beautiful thing. Yet oly to cap your upload speed first chance they get.The ISP's want to offer it,demand you pay for it.Then DON'T allow one to use it.
Customer: You can't have your Kate and Edith too
ISP:We cant? Sure we can, we'll just change the terms of service anytime we like so boo-hoo on you
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join:2005-01-03
Murrieta, CA | Re: Why Complain? Who are Kate and Edith, and what do they have to do with capping? | |
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loeakaodas
join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL | Good.. Competition is always good for the consumer as it lead to better service at lower prices. I just can't wait till FiOS comes here:D | |
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
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join:2004-06-27
Airstrip One
| Touch gloves and fight! Cablevision turns to Verizon and whispers in a thick accent: "I must break you."
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Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| Maybe something IS Afoul But maybe this will start making other companies take a hard look at what they are currently offering and think, maybe, the consumer does in fact want this type of speed and offer this at a reasonable price, I for one would like more than 3-5mbps, in fact, everyone's complaint is the upload. Sure, great download speeds, but like everyone else has said, with caps, 50mbps will be capped in no time. Also, we want more upload, YOU HERE US NOW? Uploading game files to a gaming server can sometimes be a daunting process. | |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | Re: Maybe something IS Afoul they dont care what an individual wants...they want to make the whole pie happy (best revenue at the lowest price) | |
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| Re: Maybe something IS Afoul said by JamesPC :they dont care what an individual wants...they want to make the whole pie happy (best revenue at the lowest price) True, but who doesn't want to make money. It's the bottom line they are concerned about. | |
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Rocky6
@bellsouth.net | I must break you. Great job on the pic for the article. Give that man a raise | |
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frankenfeet
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join:2001-10-14
Smiths Grove, KY | Re: I must break you. Yeah great pic, but who represents who? Is Rocky going to be Cablevision, or Verizon?
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sandman9r
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join:2003-11-09
Bronx, NY | Re: "I Must Break You." Great photo indeed.
Most customers stick with their current company because they're resistant to change. Personally, I'd take Cablevision over Verizon any day.
In 2003, Verizon had me wait four months to get a phone line. | |
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LurkerLito
join:2004-06-08
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Shamayim
I already have a Messiah.
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join:2002-09-23
| Re: 50mbps or 20mbps ... yeah right said by LurkerLito :Yeah CV sucks, no one should ever believe their speed claims anymore. If you upload or download "too much" they will slow you down to DSL speeds.... Download now is capped too??
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join:2004-06-08
| Re: 50mbps or 20mbps ... yeah right Not sure. I haven't experienced it personally that I have noticed. But there have been a few complaints I read that slowdowns were happening in their area. Might just be they got capped or that their node is oversaturated, but either way if OOL can't handle 10/1 it is unreasonable to even think they can handle 20 or 50 mbps. | |
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| | The Unknown9
join:2004-09-13
New York, NY
| When i had Cablevision i was capped once, because i was running a FTP. I called them to ask why my speed was so slow, the tech guy told me it is because i was using t00 much bandwidth so i told him, I'd like to play an online game now, but i can't. He answers me, well you can play your game for 15 minutes then take a break for 1 hour then go back to play (my internet worked fine for like 10 minutes then it was t00 slow), so i was like what the hell? i asked, so i can't play my game for at least one hour straight? he said no, "play for 15 minutes then rest a brake for 1 hour" i was getting pissed off, then i told him i just play a game and i don't think that uses so much bandwidth like he was saying, so i don't know what's going on here, maybe somebody is hacking your system or something, then he said ok i am going to uncap your account. Told him thanks. my account back to normal
I shut down my ftp, no more upload, but i used to download something like 500Gb every 2 months with no problems. | |
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Facekhan
join:2002-05-01
Gaithersburg, MD | Aaah The Sweet Sounds of Competition. Companies disagreeing with each other? Companies competing for customers in the same market? Long Island has capitalism again.
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| Re: Aaah The Sweet Sounds of Competition. said by Facekhan :Companies disagreeing with each other? Companies competing for customers in the same market? Long Island has capitalism again. My thoughts as well when companies are fighting for customers the customer wins. Now if we could just have a similar battle here in Cheyenne.
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elias
Premium,VIP
join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL
clubs: | Ivan Drago I think that picture there is great!
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Pv8man999
@wideopenwest.com | Sued? How can you sue a town for having a closed door meeting? | |
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| adkinsjm
join:2004-10-13
Frazee, MN | Re: Sued? Easy, but I am not familier with New York law. Most states have an open meeting law that restricts how and when a city or town council can close meetings to the public. If a law was violated, the lawyers get rich. | |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Re: Sued? ...and the offending officials can be removed from office, or sometimes go to jail....
calvoiper
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hhhhhh1
@broadband.u | Agreeing These two companies might be bombarding each other about who provides more bandwidth but there will be a time when the two will agree on providing price hikes. Both Verizon and Cablevision are greedy bastards. Watch your wallets!!! | |
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vincom1
join:2005-02-01
Wayne, NJ
| Cablevision isn't so bad... I don't like Verizon, thats from my personal expereince. All of the dealing I've had with Cablevision hav been resonable, and in all the YEARS I've had OOL I've never been capped and I've done my share of downloading and uploading. As explained by OOL Tech Support, they know some people work from home and will ocassionaly get some REALLY heavy uploading or downloading, but as long it isnt happeneing EVERY DAY or to P2P servers, they're not going to mark you for capping.
Cablevision has a actually always been resonable w/pricing. I compare to Comcast in PA (Near Philly)[used to live here], COX in Las Vegas (Henderson, NV)[uncles lives here], and Cable America in AZ(Mesa, AZ)[BF lives here], and Patriot Media - former RCN in NJ (Somerset, NJ)[aunt lives here].
We pay about 160ish a month, get iO Gold (highest Digital Tier), HBO and SHO On Demand, 1 HD-DVR Box, 2HD Boxes, and 1 Cable Modem.
PLUS! HD Channels are included no extra cost for them! There are some more HD channels that need to be added and I'm sure they are working on it, but considering we get 18HD channels as part of our package - who can complain? Cable America, COX, and PatMedia make you pay extra for just even ABC HD!
Cablevison isn't so bad, and I am glad they are looking at the incresing the product offering to customer - even if it is due to VZ, but thats how competition works!
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| loeakaodas
join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL
1 edit | Re: Cablevision isn't so bad... Well what happens if I use BitTorrent for completely legitimate purposes. As an example I decide to download every single Linux distro that ever existed. Will they cap me, probably, but would I be doing anything illegal, no.
This is a hypothetical situation and I'm not trying to start a flame. I have had extremely good service with Verizon DSL, no caps and constant speed. Yes, there Tech Support suck, but they managed to solve my problem with setting up the router on the second call, I know it should have been done on the first, but you can't have the best of both worlds. | |
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join:2005-02-01
Wayne, NJ
| Re: Cablevision isn't so bad... I have done my share of downloading - but it doesn't go on every day... Would your downloading every distrobution of Linux go on for DAYS and WEEKS? I dont think so. MANY of the people getting capped are file sharing on P2P for music and video and whatever else. MANY people just leave the P2P application open not caring - would a legitmate person do that? I admit CV may not be the best judge, but most of the whining I have heard about caps are from people who are illegally file sharing.
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
Premium
join:2004-06-27
Airstrip One
1 edit | Re: Cablevision isn't so bad... I'm not capped, but what about running a HL2/Quake/Doom/CS/BF2 server?
What about streaming music and video? (I usually stream launchCast instead of watching TV or listening to broadcast radio)
Game patches? Demos? Patches for demos?
Passing files back and forth for work/play(music mixes, pictures, home movies)?
I don't like capping just on principle. Not unlinke having a governor on your car. | |
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join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL
| Well, to download every single Linux distro out there would take moths of continuing downloading. Also since I'm a nice person I always seed to a huge ratio usually above 6, this helps spread Linux and makes it easier for other people to get it faster.
I sometimes make my own music and videos. Since I have a fast PC the preferred audio format is FLAC and the preferred codec is h.264 with HD video content, they both take up huge amounts of space. If I wanted to send a few videos to friends I would do it over BT, since that is the easiest for many people to get the file. The amount of time it would take to send it to 19 people can extend to weeks. | |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | Am I the only one? Am I the only one who remembers the halcyon days of when the cable companies would advertise their service as up to "200 times faster than dial up or DSL"?
Real honest there.
Hell, they still advertise their phone service as "digital". | |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| Verizon starting the boo hooing Now like Cox and Comcrap, Verizon has taken the boo hooing to the next level. They should spend less time WHINING about their competitors and more time actually COMPETING with them on the merits of their services.
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Hereweg0again
| Contrary to popular belief Well, we actually do like competition here in
Massapequa, NY. If Massapequa is the first to get video in metro NY than SO BE IT. Speaking as one of those, whom knows of the false rumor that an across the board 20 megabit upgrade as NOT materialized in any substantial way, although we hear the rumor mill of firmware upgrades. This is a town with tons of satellite dishes on 400k+ homes and companies simply must to better to get our $$$, so its just tough. Problem is, cablevision makes in-roads gets customer installs in Massapequa, Massapequa Park, etc, but fails to keep the customer because of service quality issues, etc. Throttling cablemodems, and whatnot.. that's no way to keep customers loyal no matter how LOW the price is... they were not sold on the idea that 'its cheap, so you can take a few digs while we profiteer on overloading the node infrastructure'... sorry CV you must to ALOT better to keep your customers, taking them for granted cost you the price of having to go and send a guy to shut down the taps at the pole once subscribers leave you, boo hoo, we all skip a heart-beat for ya!
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yukycg
@sunysb.edu | 50Mbps is nothing to me We have 6 people in the house and 7 computers (4 wired and 3 wireless) sharing a 3.0Mbps cable line. So with 20Mbps, it is like ~3 Mbps for each computer | |
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| attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: 50Mbps is nothing to me said by yukycg :
We have 6 people in the house and 7 computers (4 wired and 3 wireless) sharing a 3.0Mbps cable line. So with 20Mbps, it is like ~3 Mbps for each computer
God you guys are so spoiled, 50mb don't mean squat, even dialup is good enough for me. /Sarcasm.  | |
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NoOneButMe
join:2001-08-24
TX | Wish Thay Would Get Fios Started Here In Washington State we are bein left in the dark here | |
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Fagulu
| Re: Wish Thay Would Get Fios Started Here But then again, even when you have the lights turned on in Washington State.... your still in the dark | |
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