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@telocity.com | How about goldeneye Dont forget goldeneye that game was very successful | |
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join:2001-08-25
Claremont, CA | dial-up I wonder how the games would run like on a dial-up connection? | |
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Brendan
Warr Guitar is here
join:2000-07-14
Littleton, CO | Re: dial-up Poorly, like PC gaming does. | |
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join:2002-01-20
Minneapolis, MN
| Re: dial-up It might not be that bad. Sega Dreamcast was really the first console to support online gaming, and most of the games only worked with a 56K modem. They did release a broadband adaptor, but only a few games work with it.
In any event, the 56K modem works fine for all the online sports games I've played like NFL2k1, NCAA2k2, NBA2k1, Tennis 2k2, etc. | |
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martissimo
join:2001-12-01
Las Vegas, NV
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| i bought my xbox precisely because it came with a built in NIC and will only support broadband users. i don't want to play games that have to keep 56k users in mind when they design the games online play, i've got some bandwidth and i want my games designed to make the most of it...
we'll see how my decision works out here pretty soon, but i have a feeling i will find out i made the right choice | |
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@uu.net | Re: dial-up How soon we forget what it's like to be on a modem  | |
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who cares | Perhaps you should log off your Cable or DSL connection and try it! LOL!........heh heh!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Nothingman
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join:2001-04-20
Sumner, WA
| Don't cut Nintendo out yet... Nintendo's supposed to have a HUGE E3 this year.. I really wouldn't cut them out of the market... this broadband thing probably won't do much, I just don't see it as a huge console market...
By this time next year I think that it'll be PS2, barely trailed by the Gamecube, with the XBox either gone or far behind..
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Lincoln, NE | Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... A friend of mine is in Japan right now, and he told me the Game Cube is doing well over there, better than the XBox no less. | |
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airhockey
Got Airhockey?
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join:2001-03-01
San Jose, CA
| Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... Of course the Xbox is losing in Japan to Japan game makers. Japanese support their on products unlike Americans. When I worked for a Japanese company in the US almost all the employees were Japanese and every one of them drove a Japanese car. My big US truck stuck out like a sore thumb hehe | |
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join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
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| Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... You know, I've noticed that support as well. Whenever I've gone to a site that was mainly Asian, all their cars were Japanese. (my big US vehicle stood out too) Come to think of it, when I go to a company that is mostly domestic workers, all their cars are Japanese too. Guess I am an eyesore no matter where I go.
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| Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... Its never hard to make a loud gas-guzzling antique of a car stand out. Now when GM finally wises up like the rest of the domestic manufacturers and starts making efficient small displacement motors maybe they wont stand out AS MUCH. But you'll still be staring at the taillights of my "bumblebee" Acura as fly right by.
But back to the point .... I love Nintendo, and have since the NES days. But they haven't had any truly respectable market penetration strategies since then. They realize that they have a core market who will always buy Nintendo(like myself)and will guarantee them profit. But this could be construed as a step in the right direction. Meaning attracting non-Nintendo supporters. PS2 will still run the market, but X-box and GC will be fighting it out for 2nd. And thats just my take on the situation.
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join:2002-04-14
Lakewood, WA
| Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... I agree with some and disagree with some of You. The only reason at this point in time that the PS2 is beating the xbox is because it has a ENTIRE year head start of game developers on its side. Once the xbox expands its game library, it will beat the PS2 in the long run no matter what. The PS2 can only accomplish so much performance without u haveing to FORK over 100 bucks every 2 months for upgrades. Dont get me wrong. Sony was very smart, because they made alot of ports for extras to be added, liek a hard drive, and Ethernet Port, extra memeory and much more stuff that is still in devolpment, liek Graphics expansion, sound, maybe even CPU boost, But they did this to make more money off You. The Xbox includes all these for the same price as the PS2. so i know it is not to expensive to add these and sell for 299. Plus the xbox parts are much more expensive becuase they are twice as fast. the fact of the matter, u will have to Pay out your Pockets big time for these upgrades. When u can buy a Xbox for the same price as a basic PS2. Xbox comes with all that stuff. 10 gigs, dvd player liek the PS2 (xbox needs remote to work $30), ethernet for broadband Gaming. But the harddrive that will be coming out for the PS2 is liek 100 bucks. What a rip off. ANd as far as modem or ethernet for PS2, i am sure will be like 40-60 for those. The Xbox outclasses the ps2 performance by almost double. I mean damn. Look at the games. U can totally tell. xb0x = 733 mhz, ps2 is 294 mhz. xb0x = Geforce3 graphics with clock speed of 250 mhz. PS2 = integrated graphics synthizer with a clock speed of 147 MHz. That is a big performance difference. Here is a link to a site that shows u all 3 compared Hardware Wise. »users.wiredcity.com.au/~plok/gam···ecs.html As far as Nintendo,There system is even stronger then the PS2, but They havent made any games for teens and OLDER since SNES. ALl the Nin64 games were KID games. Seems like they are sticking with that so far. The only thing i have seen so far that nintendo has releases for its new console that isnt Kid games is some sports game. Thats it. ALL in ALL, once the xbox teams up with more game makers, they will make both the PS2 and gamecube Look foolish for even tryin to compete. And once the xbox goes online this ssummer, It will leave them all in the dust. | |
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| Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... said by krashnburnz:
As far as Nintendo,There system is even stronger then the PS2, but They havent made any games for teens and OLDER since SNES. ALl the Nin64 games were KID games. Seems like they are sticking with that so far. The only thing i have seen so far that nintendo has releases for its new console that isnt Kid games is some sports game. Thats it. ALL in ALL, once the xbox teams up with more game makers, they will make both the PS2 and gamecube Look foolish for even tryin to compete. And once the xbox goes online this ssummer, It will leave them all in the dust.
I'm sorry, I couldn't read this post without posting a rebuttal. Please don't take this as a personal attack, as it is not. The common belief that Nintendo only makes games for youngsters is one of the oldest, most propagated mistruths among gamers and non gamers alike. You stated that the N64 had only "kid" games made for it when any true gamer remembers the system for games like the Turok series, Goldeneye, Conker, and, well I won't sit here and name off any of the hundred other "M" rated games released on the system. What perplexes me is that even though titles like Sesame Street, Rugrats, Mary Kate and Ashley and many sequels of all of the aforementioned were common staples on the PSOne and not the N64, the PSOne was never called a "kiddy" system-why is that! As for Gamecube only having games for youngsters, what games are you referring to? The few that they do have are all ports of PS2 games! Even the cartonny looking Smash Brothers game is "Teen" rated. As for the Xbox being the "end-all-be-all" of online gaming, Electronic Arts just announced that this year's John Madden online football game is going to be a PS2 exclusive, due to Microsoft's master-slave attitude when it comes to third party companies having online games on their console. Sony's(as well as Nintendo's) stance is that the individual publishers can/should run their own servers for their online games. All online games for Xbox must be served thru Microsoft, which has brought up some privacy issues, among others. This is definitely not good news at all for the Xbox. The Gamecube has Phantasy Star Online pts 1 & 2-enough said, as I(as well as many others)have wasted a many an hour playing this title. I also personally like how Nintendo has decided not to punish those who can't get any form of broadband by making both 56k and ethernet adaptors for their system. Online gaming for consoles isn't the holy grail some people make it out to be. Did it save the Dreamcast? Does anyone even remember Sega Saturn Netlink? X-band? Do you see a pattern here?
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join:2002-04-14
Lakewood, WA
| Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... I do hear where you are coming from. But the ratio of Kidz games compared to 18+ games are about 3to1. Ys, they had turok, James bond, hmmmm, what else,?? Sports games can be for anyone wich i mentioned, so we will leave those out of the Ration. but over all, Nintendo bases there consoel and most of the games on a younger audiance. That is my opinion and i am not stateing a facts because i am not gonna waste time finding numbers. But that is what i have seen from nintendo since The orginal one. | |
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@verizon.ne | Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... While Ms. goes for older gamers | |
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| said by ArchAngel21x:
A friend of mine is in Japan right now, and he told me the Game Cube is doing well over there, better than the XBox no less.
Your friend is wrong. GameCube has been selling just as poorly as Xbox in Japan. For months, GameCube has been selling ~10,000 consoles per week. The Xbox had an "ok" Japanese launch, but it dropped off faster than shit and is now selling about <10,000 per week. The only next generation console that's done well in Japan has been the PlayStation 2. This is nothing new though, Japanese gamers have been shunning all non-Sony consoles (with the exception of the Gameboy) since the first PlayStation was released. | |
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join:2001-09-06
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| Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... His friend is correct. It is doing a lot better then the XBox. Your 10,000 statement is correct for the Gamecube, but not the XBox. His friend said, "the Gamecube is doing well over there, better then the XBox no less." His friend is correct. Selling 4+ million units worldwide in only about 8-9 months is pretty impressive especially with the limited amount of games it has released. However, that number is sure to sky rocket with the release of Zelda and Mario. Sales maybe poor in your eyes, but they'll pick up with the release of these titles. Plus, the European launch is coming soon and pre-orders of around 75,000 doesn't hurt either.
Here's the article with the sales figures:
»cube.ign.com/articles/357/357591p1.html
What's funny is the Dreamcast, which is hardly being supported in Japan and is pretty much extinct in terms of developers in America is barely behind the XBox in sales. 
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| Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... said by andunn:
His friend is correct. It is doing a lot better then the XBox.
Actually, it's not. It's doing slightly better than Xbox Japan, but it's still pretty much a failure.
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Selling 4+ million units worldwide in only about 8-9 months is pretty impressive
PS2 sells over a million per month.
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that number is sure to sky rocket with the release of Zelda and Mario
Right. Just like how Resident Evil, a hugely popular title was supposed to boost sells and nothing moved. And just like how Shenmue and dozens of other games on the Dreamcast were supposed to boost sells and they just sunk even lower. It will take much more than Mario or Zelda to bring the GameCube up to the level it needs to be to compete with the PS2.
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Here's the article with the sales figures:
»cube.ign.com/articles/357/357591p1.html
IGNCube said: PS2: 55,000 units (total this year: 1,323,000)
Real numbers: PS2: 66,407 units (total this year: 1,419,468)
IGNCube said: GBA: 31,000 units (total this year: 969,000)
Real numbers: GBA: 38,082 units (total this year: 895,671)
IGNCube said: GameCube: 10,000 units (total this year: 510,000)
Real numbers: GameCube: 12,362 units (total this year: 387,849)
IGNCube said: PS1: 3,000 units (total this year: 74,000)
Real numbers: PS1: 4,217 units (total this year: 104,709)
IGNCube said: Xbox: 1,800 units (total this year: 169,000)
Real numbers: Xbox: 2,532 units (total this year: 195,812)
IGNCube said: WonderSwan: 2,000 units (total this year: 11,330)
Real numbers: WonderSwan: 1,980 units (total this year: 53,391)
It's really funny how IGNCube falsified every single number in favor of Nintendo's consoles. As for the Dreamcast, they completely made their numbers up. Dreamcast has been delisted from all major charts for almost a year, including the one they said was their source.
Case and point, both GameCube and Xbox are turning out to be failures, but least the Xbox has the financial backing to keep it alive through its current rough waters. GameCube will probably stick around for some time too, but it's doubtful that Nintendo will be in the hardware business after the GameCube's life span is over. | |
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join:2000-09-15
Indianapolis, IN
clubs: | Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... You do know that Microsoft is losing money on each X-Box sell while Nintendo actually makes money per GameCube sale, right? | |
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martissimo
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| Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... said by urbanninja:
You do know that Microsoft is losing money on each X-Box sell while Nintendo actually makes money per GameCube sale, right?
the difference is that Bill Gates has more money than anyone can possiby imagine, and he has decided that it's worth sacrificing some of it to get his foot in the door of the console market.
if you think he will give up because of a slow start (ala dreamcast) you are sadly mistaken, he knew that he would lose money initially with this project, he just doesn't care about it in the short term... his plans are long range, and i would be surprised if he doesn't succeed.
Heck im not even close to a fan of MS (i only boot to windows at my GRUB dual-boot screen when i plan on gaming)... and even i recognize that the x-box is the most advanced console on the market. Given a little time i would not be surprised to see nintendo in trouble trying to compete with MS and Sony, they are are overmatched in this one | |
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join:2001-12-01
Poway, CA
clubs: | Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... Bill Gates != Microsoft. His wealth is primarily based on stock. So when Microsoft loses money, so does he.
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join:2001-09-06
Linn Creek, MO | Wow, someone seriously needs to have their eyes checked. Just had mine done last week lol | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: Don't cut Nintendo out yet... said by PhyreFox:
Ever hear of "Planned Obsolescence"? It's the primary reason PlayStation 2's are selling like hotcakes. It's been out a year and people are buying their SECOND PS2 because the first one breaks down.
If that were the case there would be a lot more word out on the poor quality of the PS2. Companies won't build a machine so it would break in a year. That's very bad business planning, especially in the game console market. Sony's original Playstation was on the top of the heap for about six year without doing what you are implying.
Now planned obsolescence I don't think is the case, but eventual obsolescence is definitely out there. Console games are currently not upgradeable so eventually that PS2 will not be able to handle graphics in a way that keeps up with the times. My guess is it won't take another six years for a new Playstation to be created considering how fast technology is growing lately.
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Sumner, WA | Graphics don't make good games.... | |
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Milwaukee, WI | Xbox is doing poorly everywhere else... Including in the US. Cheif Xbox designer has resigned, or so they say. Xbox's controllers suck, except for the L and R buttons. Sony and Nintendo are where its at.
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| Re: Xbox is doing poorly everywhere else... I disagree with you on the xbox. The games on thier are so much beter then nintendo. It is doing so well you can even play it online already. Unlike ps2 and gamecube you don't have to shell out extra money to play online. Once you try halo online you will be hooked. www.gamespy.com | |
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join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: Xbox is doing poorly everywhere else... I dunno. So far the Gamecube has brought out some real winners in my book. I would hit Rogue Leader over Halo any day. As far as the Xbox is concerned I don't think it's doing as bad as HondaMan says it's doing, but it's not meeting Microsoft's expectations. I think the Xbox online gaming formula is going to end up open a big can of worms if they are not careful on how they usurp control over developers and gamers on their servers.
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join:2002-01-30
Hermitage, TN
| Consoles A year ago, people thought that MS would kill Nintendo, but the Gamecube is cheaper than any other system, so it's doing well. That's a real change from their old cartridge-based systems and games, which often cost more than the competition. The Xbox keeps dropping in price worldwide, I guess all the 30 year old geeks who could buy one already have, so they have to sell to kids now. BTW, MS released new smaller Xbox controllers in Japan to replace the huge ones it usually ships with. I think I saw them on sale here in the US the other day.
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join:2002-03-13
O Fallon, MO | Let's behave ourselves The last thing we want is this forum to turn into the infantile playground that is alt.games.video.xbox/playstation2/gamecube. | |
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tower29
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| Re: yes! Counter-strike sux my left ball. The Unreal engine is sssooo much better. And the Infiltration mod for UT is light years ahead of counterstrike. Now grant it, CS can't help that it sux because it's on such an outdated engine. Heritic II was the only good game ever built on that old clunker of an engine.
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join:2002-04-14
Lakewood, WA | Re: yes! You must be retarded. If Couter-striek suxs so bad, why is it the #1 played FPS online?? with over 21,000 servers active. Just your opinion. Lets start stateing facts. | |
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join:2002-04-14
Lakewood, WA
| Re: Counter-strike sux's? VEry well put Tower. The Unreal Enginne can only do so much. The half-life enginee does have it flaws. Liek the HAcks, but Unreal has HAcks also.Just not as Good hacks . But the only reason CS is hackable so much more, is becus valve made it MOD friendly. Where people can change the game, and make a whole new game out of Halflife. That is why there is hundreds of Halflife mods out. Just so happens that one of them is CS and the most played FPS shooter. How many Mods are there for Unreal enginne?? maybe 20?? 30?? If that. | |
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Le Roy
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| Nintendo,. out, are you CRAZY? Nintendo makes the BEST frachises, compared to it comptetion. I mean, take a look at Pokemon for example. As for online, ok? For one, Sega is pretty much on Nintendo's side, and Sega has experience in the field, correct? Look at what Nintendo did with Pokemon using just two Gameboys, imagine them bring that to an online version. Ok. What about Goldeneye, one of the best multiplayer games for its time, and it was SLIPT screen fur crying out loud. -lol And, if you think far enough back, the video game market was pretty much done for in the U.S. until Nintendo released the NES (Nintendo Entertainment System) and told retailers it was not a video game system, but rather a {NES}. Due to the poor effort of the Atari 2600, which killed the video game market during its time. But Nintendo, with ROB, realeasd it system, and promised retailers that they would buy back ALL systems not sold.
And Nintendo, going out? Nintendo, not doing well when it comes to online. -lol Whatever. | |
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join:2001-08-29
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| Re: Nintendo,. out, are you CRAZY? said by Le Roy:
Nintendo makes the BEST frachises, compared to it comptetion.
If you want to wait 2-3 years longer than the original release date (not to mention CELL SHADED zelda).
said by Le Roy:
Nintendo makes the BEST frachises, compared to it comptetion. I mean, take a look at Pokemon for example.
Your kidding right? You must be kidding.
said by Le Roy:
As for online, ok? For one, Sega is pretty much on Nintendo's side, and Sega has experience in the field, correct?
As I recall Microsoft did the Dreamcast console code (CE Based). The Sega team works much more closely with MS than with Nintendo. It should be noted that Nintendo has contemplated online for quite some time, but always trip over the tail backpedalling, just like there release dates.
said by Le Roy:
Ok. What about Goldeneye, one of the best multiplayer games for its time, and it was SLIPT screen fur crying out loud.
Rare developed Goldeneye, and Rare and Nintendo are in the midst of a huge rift, causing Rare to essentially stop working on all of the Nintendo titles, and informally announce multiplatform support. Yes, that is why a good number of the Rare developed Cube games have been delayed into TBA land.
I had a Nintendo 64, and looking back I can't help but feel I got hosed, continuously having to wait for new games that usually fell below expectations, or got canned. The Xbox has exceeded my expectations thus far, with Halo being the best experience since GoldenEye, and I can play it online, which is an absolute riot with 8+ player CTF, and it isn't possible to cheat, which completely screws CS games anymore.
And my last point, pricing is no longer an issue, both Xbox and PS2 dropped to $199 today and yesterday respectively. | |
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| Re: Nintendo,. out, are you CRAZY? said by jcnnghm:
As I recall Microsoft did the Dreamcast console code (CE Based).
Actually almost all of the dreamcast games (and the dashboard) were made using the katana libs. The WinCE stuff has horrible performance due to a huge overhead on the very memory limited system.
I have a feeling that the gamecube will have alot of unexpected things to show us at E3. If anything could beat Halo online it would be Metroid. 
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join:2001-01-25
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| LOL Xbox will not be gone. Not a chance. It has surpassed the GC so much in the first couple of months with # and quality of games realeased.
Anyway, just thought I would state my opinion. Have fun regardless which company you choose. lol
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Encino, CA | Re: MOHAA for GC MOHAA (Medal Of Honor Allied Assault) isnt coming out for gamecube its only on PC MOHF (Medal of honor Frontline) is the one coming out for Gamecube... sorry just had to correct you.... and anyway they are basically the same game... | |
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| Phire4
join:2001-04-25
Bayside, NY
| These are the facts. You guys want the truth? PS2 will outlive X-Box and Gamecube becuase of developer support and an already strong userbase. Nintendo 64 was stronger than PS1 and so was Sega Saturn, who lived then? Microsoft should stick to goofing up Windows. The current lineup of X-Box games are absolutely terrible, the game has maybe 3 games that are worth buying, much like Nintendo 64's problem. Don't fool yourselves. | |
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cliffmarc
join:2002-02-19
Bethlehem, PA | Re: These are the facts. Xbox will win in the End, Microsoft has deep pockets they could give the Xbox away and Microsoft would still makes billions. | |
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beeman65
join:2001-07-23
Mckeesport, PA
| Re: These are the facts. said by cliffmarc:
Xbox will win in the End, Microsoft has deep pockets they could give the Xbox away and Microsoft would still makes billions.
I doubt MS will win. I think they are trying after the same market as the PS2. With the PS2 launching a year earlier, it was a gap that the X-Box cannot overcome IMO.
Plus, even if MS did give it away for free I would not pick one up if had less than four or five AAA titles. Otherwise, why waste money buying mediocre games for a free system? Kind of defeats the purpose.
I think MS should focus all of their resources and money into Windows and .NET, but they won't... | |
| Jack0072
join:2002-05-11
Tampa, FL
| PC Games #1
If You wanna pay 50 bucks Forever For shitty Little Kid games , Just for the Convinience Of being able to pop in game disk and play away , Then by all Means Waste your money
on That X-cube you've been Eye balling because you dont want to take the Time and Effort For the Real Game Experience.
My Pc Only cost about 200 More than one of the 299 systems , and with Component Prices Dropping , It will Be even less soon. ( I did , However , Have to Build it From Scratch. But I think this is all Part of the Experience)
I Dont think any of the New systems Could Provide a Fraction Of the Fun I Experience Playing RTCW Over Road Runner on my Athlon 950 with a Gforce 2 Ti and Sound blaster Audigy gamer.
Console systems were made for Kiddies , so Go out and Build yourself a Man's Gameing system.
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| | krashnburnz
join:2002-04-14
Lakewood, WA | Re: Catchy Title You must have a peice of crap computer then, because my Computer looks much better then PS2, and gamecube. The xbox is very competitive in graphics with my PC becuase it used a modifed Geforce 3 GPU. And i got a geforce 3 in my pc. | |
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join:2002-04-14
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| Re: Catchy Title Of course the new consoles liek the gamecube and the xbox are going to look better. Its becuz u have a crappy video card. Get a geforce 2 gts or higher, and youll see what real games look like. Geforce 2 mx just SUCK!!!!! Also, there will be cheating on the console. There was alot of cheating when the dreamcast came out. Liek on Phantasy star online. Everyoen was hacking. SO dont think since u shift to a console playing onlien it will be all happy go lucky. Cheating will always be around as long as there is a game to play againt others. | |
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join:2001-06-10
Hurley, SD
| Who cares if it has broadband Well- I am a Nintendo person- my husband is a PS person- we are getting both PS2 and GC- but I could give a rats ass if I can hook up to the net to play games- I dont want a game console to play online games. That is what a computer is for. I bought DC the week it came out and had it for about a month before giving away that piece of crap | |
| | | | Link200
join:2002-05-07
Howard, OH
| about the graphics the reason why the peaple that make PC games dont push the PC to its limits is because they wont get any good sales. they would take a GeForce 4 Ti 4600 and take that to its fullest power. but what about the porr people with only GeForce 2s and 3s or even ATI Radians, even if it is the new All in Wonder. no one would be able to buy it unless they have a GeForce 4 ti 4600. that councle people know the power of their councle. they can max it out because nobody can upgrade thier councle. if people would offer a free GeForce 4 ti 4600 with thier game and a free motherboard that supports AGP for the poor people (like me:( )that dont have AGP slots they might gt away with it. in the meant ime. PC will be behind in the graphics department. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: about the graphics All the more reason to acknowledge that console games currently have superior graphics over PC games. It would be nice though if a few developers would take their chances and make a game that really pushes my GeForce3 Ti200 and 1.53Ghz Athlon to their full potential.
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Blizzard0
join:2000-06-27
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: about the graphics you gotta remember the os inside consoles are built strictly for gaming. and contain so little overhead they can push the hardware to the extreme limits.
where as your pc serves many uses. and the developer can't push it becuase of hardware constraints such as stressing an old part and it breaking. You want your video card dieing because you played too much rogue spear at 800 fps.
with a console they don't have to worry because the parts are dedicated and they know what they can do before damaging one part.
like overheating ps2's very problematic especially on older ps2's
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I too was a attbi hater but now with this new service my connection is to slow to complain ... | |
| | krashnburnz
join:2002-04-14
Lakewood, WA
| Thats why on a PC game, U can twaek your video settign in the game to Fastest/fast/normal/qualtiy/best quality
can u do that with a Consoel, of course not, no need to. cus they are all the same. So i think your are wrong.All the new games that i play right now liek jk2, sof2, Cs, quake, they all work my video card pretty hard when i have the settings Up high. i have a gefroce 3 card and it gets warm when the settings are high Resolution and high quality. So all the games give you options to look the best like they were made to if your machine can handle it, or if u have a lower end machine, u have to sacrifice the best looking game because u cant afford a good computer that can handle that load. | |
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You'd think that PC game makers would get their act together liket hey did for DC-Q3 
umm hmmm