  cchhat01Dr. Zoidberg
join:2001-05-01
Elmhurst, NY
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| why is it such a big deal Its like people just want to keep beating a dead horse...
who cares if its coming or not... people who want to get it for use on T-Mobile will get it and use it irrespective of this...
Merrill just wants to cause some investor hoopla... its like treating the economy like a virtual sandbox, provide some input (even if its garbage) and see what the outcome is...
Jeez, gimme something meaningful to read.
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 |  MikePremium,Mod
join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1 | Re: why is it such a big deal It's about a big of a deal as about a bank analyst making blind comments on technology. | |
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| | | said by cchhat01:Its like people just want to keep beating a dead horse...
who cares if its coming or not... people who want to get it for use on T-Mobile will get it and use it irrespective of this...
Merrill just wants to cause some investor hoopla... its like treating the economy like a virtual sandbox, provide some input (even if its garbage) and see what the outcome is...
Jeez, gimme something meaningful to read.
The reason T-Mobile customers care if the Iphone comes to T-mobile is because then we wouldn't have to pay $600 and way up for a new phone. I don't see why 200 vs 600 for the LOWEST model doesn't sound like a big deal. Also, being able to just go to a T-mobile store and say hey I'm having a problem blah blah blah and there like ok we can SUPPORT you heres the solution...
That is the main reason T-mobile customers (like myself) care for this... | |
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ssavoyPremium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA Reviews:
·Comcast
| They can't afford it If they don't even have the money to actually expand 4G outside of areas with a population density greater than 5 million per square inch, they can't afford the iPhone.
Sadly, this company is still primarily and EDGE carrier. I just became a customer a few weeks ago and am already porting out due to unprofessional customer service. One of the "4G" towers near me has had speed issues for two weeks. I made a Google Map and plotted all of the problematic areas.
Their response: "We can't be grantee coverage in all areas." Very professional. | |
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|  CheesePremium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Re: They can't afford it said by ssavoy:Their response: "We can't be grantee coverage in all areas." Very professional.
It's the truth though. Sorry that upsets you. | |
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| | ssavoyPremium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA | Re: They can't afford it Well, I should mention coverage exists. It's just something on their end that's not working correctly. There's a difference between simply not having service and having *broken* service. In this case it's broken service. | |
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| |  djdanskaRudie32Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
San Diego, CA
kudos:4
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| said by Cheese:said by ssavoy:Their response: "We can't be grantee coverage in all areas." Very professional.
not to mention that with their refarming, slowdowns are happening while upgrading towers. It should go away soon It's the truth though. Sorry that upsets you.
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| brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | said by ssavoy:expand 4G outside of areas with a population density
Their response: "We can't be grantee coverage in all areas." Very professional.
No one has actual 4G yet.
No one can guarantee coverage either. | |
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join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA Reviews:
·Comcast
| Re: They can't afford it I have excellent coverage but it's "broken" in a specific location. I don't care so much as to that as I do the way the situation was handled. I gave them lots of info to help them out and they didn't even bother forwarding it to their network team.
And I use 4G as a placeholder for HSPA+. Sorry for the technicality. | |
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| Re: They can't afford it TMO-USA and all carriers have a clause that states that coverage is NOT available in all areas. So weather its data or voice, still, coverage is not available in all areas and they make that clear, its on their website, on all marketing materials and in their contract.
"MAP INFORMATION: Capable device required for network connection and 3G and 4G speeds. Roaming and on-network data allotments may differ. Maps approximate anticipated coverage outdoors, based on a variety of factors, and do not guarantee service availability. Learn more" »www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx
And this is what you get when you click on "learn more":
MAP INFORMATION:
(Effective June 5, 2012)
Maps approximate anticipated coverage outdoors, which may include limited or no coverage areas, and do not guarantee service availability. Within coverage areas, network changes, traffic volume, outages, technical limitations, signal strength, your equipment, obstructions, weather and other conditions may interfere with service quality and availability. Capable device required for network connection and 3G and 4G speeds. Home internet speeds vary widely. Maps do not reflect coverage areas for Prepaid/Monthly4G service. See Prepaid/Monthly4G coverage map for details. Roaming Partner: Roaming refers to usage while on a roaming partners’ network within coverage area; not available for Mobile Broadband plans. Your roaming and on-network data allotments may differ; see rate plan for details. We are not responsible for the performance of our roaming partners’ networks. International roaming incurs additional charges and refers to usage outside of the US. Some areas of roaming coverage require a multi-band device. Certain devices and features will not work when roaming. Ask a sales representative or visit www.t-mobile.com/coverage for more information. If you travel outside of coverage areas, your device will not work.
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| | tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | said by brad:No one has actual 4G yet. Read the current requirements to be considered 4G. | |
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join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | Re: They can't afford it said by tcope:said by brad:No one has actual 4G yet. Read the current requirements to be considered 4G. I have. ITU allowing carriers to use the 4G trademark to market LTE and HSPA+ as 4G does not make it 4G. ITU has made it pretty clear that they're transitional technologies and only LTE Advanced and WiMAX 2 are considered 4G. | |
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| | | your site in dallas PA doesnt even have 3/4g equipment on it, it's edge only. the closest 3/4g tower to you is on the outskirts of wilkes-barre on 309...could be why you dont see the speeds you want. | |
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| | ssavoyPremium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA | Re: They can't afford it I know, it's in a specific area of Wilkes-Barre. I have EDGE at home that works and that's not a big deal to me. But the problem is in a 4G area. | |
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| | | said by ssavoy:Their response: "We can't be grantee coverage in all areas." Very professional.
At least T-mobile is honest with their responces I highly value that in a company not just a "oh screw it we will fix it later" kind of attitude...
But then again if you enjoy the lies other companies tell you... to each his own i suppose ... | |
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| | djdanskaRudie32Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
San Diego, CA
kudos:4 | Re: They can't afford it Or the pic of the verizon coverage down at the mall. You know the one, with the usa all in red. LOL. | |
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| | ssavoyPremium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA | Well an "oh screw it we will fix it later" is better than the "we can't guarantee it will work" | |
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| | | CheesePremium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Re: They can't afford it said by ssavoy:Well an "oh screw it we will fix it later" is better than the "we can't guarantee it will work"
And then you would complain when it's still not working. They told you the truth. There really isn't much more to go on about. | |
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join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | Re: They can't afford it said by Cheese:And then you would complain when it's still not working. They told you the truth. There really isn't much more to go on about.
Some people seem to prefer being told a lie instead of the truth. | |
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Re: They can't afford it So it seems, lol!  | |
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 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA | Simple solution A simple solution would be for Apple to make an iPhone that is compatible with T-Mobile's network. The had to adapt their iPhone lineup to start selling them on Verizon. If Apple had their way, AT&T would still have exclusivity. | |
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| Re: Simple solution VZW had the chance to get the iPhone first. That has been stated several times over and over. VZW just didn't want to give up control of the Apps store to iTunes. So they went to AT&T who was fine with that.
And they could go back to being exclusive with another model of the iPhone nothing is stopping them from doing so. | |
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|  RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY | said by IowaCowboy:A simple solution would be for Apple to make an iPhone that is compatible with T-Mobile's network. The had to adapt their iPhone lineup to start selling them on Verizon.
They needed to make a special Verizon Phone since Verizon uses a technology that is not compatible with AT&T (and T-Mobile). When Apple released the iPhone5 they COULD have added T-Mobile 1700MHz 3G capability in addition to the 1900MHz that AT&T uses but they did not. | |
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BiggA
join:2005-11-23
EARTH Reviews:
·Comcast
| This write-up is idiotic The iPhone 5 has AWS support and HSPA+ support, just not both put together. If the iPhone were to launch on T-Mobile, it would have AWS HSPA+. The network is not the issue. Heck, Apple put it on Sprint. It's the price. Until T-Mobile pays the price, they will have to keep re-farming for HSPA+ on PCS. When they pay the price, the T-Mobile iPhones will work just fine with DC-HSPA+ on AWS. | |
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·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | Re: This write-up is idiotic Even more so - the write up contradicts itself.
said by Karl :
So far, the company has so far focused on launching HSPA+ service over the company's 1900 MHz spectrum, trying to lure unlocked iPhone owners over to their network. However, HSPA+ over 1900 MHz is only available in 15 markets.
and yet...
said by Karl :
T-Mobile's HSPA network doesn't yet support the PCS 3G bands used by the iPhone,
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That being said, there are likely a lot of places that have 1900mhz that aren't officially announced yet. | |
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join:2005-11-23
EARTH | It's misleading and poorly written. Technically, you could argue the second statement refers to the network as a whole, but that's a weasel argument. | |
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 a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
·T-Mobile US
·Verizon Online DSL
·Cingular Wireless
| ... the heck are they smoking.. Even in most of the NYC metro area, I have had spotty service when attempting to use my T-mobile SIM card with a non-AWS 3G device (»airportal.de pretty much shows this, as the PCS 3.5G coverage is rather spotty, since the refarming is still very much a work in progress.) Heck, the reps at the Union Square store were telling a couple activating their iPhones that there was no guaranteed HSPA coverage for PCS in NYC. I can see something like this being remotely considerable around late 2013, when T-mobile finally gets the refarming done en masse in most of their existing HSPA+ footprint, and some measure of an LTE rollout complete (should be possible as most HSPA+ towers already have some form of fiber ethernet backhaul.) Even so, I doubt T-mobile will actually sign an agreement with Apple... as it is, they have had to sell off their towers just to finance the spectrum refarm and network modernization program... a > $15-20 Billion deal will only hurt them, especially as the iPhone isn't anywhere near as big a deal now as it was a few years ago. Also, T-mobile is leaning heavily towards the un-subsidized contract+prepaid phone model, with the encouragement to get people onto value plans (just signed up myself actually), and subsidizing $700 devices runs rather counter to that model...
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